EPTWhy I dont care about the beta anymore. - Page 2
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1070 Posts
really miss the days where me and friends would chat randomly after games in channels, the new b.net is so cold, I know there are lots of people around but somehow people arent interacting with each other. | ||
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
I fully agree that Blizzard have a valid reason for not including chat channels in the beta, but "won't be ready at launch"? What the hell? I know first-years programming students that could do this in a day or three. They've already got server infrastructure for Bnet, it's not like they'd need some revolutionary new network to send a bunch of chat messages. @Pekkz, Is it confirmed that you won't be able to create new names in retail as well? It seems to me that the whole identifier system is utterly useless if you can't create additional characters, so I'm sure this'll be available at launch. One additional thing I've noticed is that Blizzard insists on making the chat screens tiny. Both in BW and in SC2, the chat screen when you're selecting races and everything is just tiny compared to all the empty space on the screen. I don't need 75% of my 22" screen just to see who's in the game. Same goes for friends messages when you're in the menu. It's just a rather small screen and I haven't found out how to make it bigger. | ||
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Metaspace
Austria670 Posts
On May 19 2010 19:07 Crimson.Slayer wrote: If you want to complain about the social aspect, do so about how unfriendly or unsporting people are. No GL/HF at the begining and no GG when they lose. As much as I get tempered when I get cheesed I still gg, and watch the replay to learn from my defeat. Why do YOU gg etc.? Because you have been educated by a strong community, facilitated by chatrooms. There you have it. | ||
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Siretu
151 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 19 2010 19:07 Crimson.Slayer wrote: They'll probably add at launch the chat rooms and unless they've said a definitive no to group replays they'll have that as well. On May 19 2010 18:56 moopie wrote: I believe they actually stated they won't have it ready by launch. edit: also, yay facebook integration.... *crickets* | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
As a gamer I'm not capable of deciding not to play SC2 over some chat functions though. | ||
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Metaspace
Austria670 Posts
On May 19 2010 19:12 DarQraven wrote: I know first-years programming students that could do this in a day or three. If I remember correctly, it took half an afternoon - but we were 2. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
 I will never understand the reasoning behind blizzards decision to drop such an integral part of what made starcraft great. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2727 Posts
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Metaspace
Austria670 Posts
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Zexion
Sweden971 Posts
And I'm pretty sure Blizzard will add chat rooms when the game is released. As someone said eariler, the main purpose of the beta is to let the players test the game, not the chat functions. | ||
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nate_river
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Daniri
387 Posts
It's hard for me not to be annoyed with their Real ID approach. If a gamer wanted to use their real name they would. If I didn't have so strong an association and history with mine I probably would use my real name. On one hand I get it, but to me it kind of feels like a betrayal of what gamers have always been about. Sounds dramatic, I know, but it's like they're trying to socially engineer us(even more grandiose) to be more respectable, or at the least appear it. They removed chat channels, those wretched hives of scum and villainy, they're having us use our real names and they're pushing the real world into the game via avenues like this, more of which they supposedly have planned. Look, if we still had what we used to have I wouldn't be at all bothered. All this could just be features I could or couldn't use. But they seem to be pushing social media extrana at the expense of traditional gamer modes of interaction. God, you can't even name your custom games anymore. All the personality of Battle.net and a gaming community is gone, and I have to think that's what they wanted. I've said it around here before, but launch day of WC3 was a very exciting and memorable time because of all the people streaming in and out and all the chatter. And whenever I came back to now classic Battle.net it was with like a sense of coming home. There are regularly around 50,000 people on SC2 and yet it feels completely barren. Because of the features they've attached to real ID it isn't simply a question of whether or not you want your real name displayed. I've been and will continue to hand out my real ID to everyone I passingly know. I remember when they first explained it and they were like "You don't go by Slayerx1153 to your friends in real life". First of all, to be grandiose again, that to me is another thing that comes off as them sneering at long-standing gamer traditions; many of us with established nick names are just as comfortable with them. But it also shows a lack of perspective. Most of us don't work around gamers all day. Most of us would be lucky to have even one friend who games. And even if you did have a handful from my experience real life friends are the worst flakes for gaming. And usually suck. Point being that online friends are far more likely to make use of real ID features than real ones. As for chat channels, I do believe they'll implement them at some point, but they've been asked the question five times the past few months and each time they've alternated their answer. It's frustrating that they're complicating the issue of a damn chat channel so much. And most pertinently they apparently won't be in by release so launch day will feel desolate instead of the hive of activity it should. | ||
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mel_ee
2447 Posts
Back in BW, I knew channels that were frequented from different high school groups/friends which made it fun to play each other. Also channels back then where so fun to ask for games or even have easy access to observing. who remembers on US west brood war kor - op nexus and brood war kor - namomo or something like that...those channels were my first exposure to OBsing korean games. These chat channels where so good once you find a good population type. However with sc2 I feel like this element must be attained with more effort. Kinda hard to observe high level games unless you know someone. I am not too worried tho, I am sure there will be places to "meet" online. If not, just join a clan haha~ | ||
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
However, I personally believe that chat channels are essential. It's almost impossible to host a tournament, let alone meet anyone online. Very very very unusual experience w/ no chat channels on there. [edit] More importantly, I like to keep my friends list VERY sparse. I only like having a few real life friends and some major practice partners on there since it helps me keep organized. However, with b.net 2.0, I have to have 100+ friends just for some functional social interaction to set up matches. Once there's that many people on the list, it's obnoxious to scroll through that giant list of names looking for the one you want. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2715 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
I haven't met anyone through gaming- though I haven't tried. The lack of chat channels has been- mind numbingly awkward. Well described as a cold and empty place, sir. LoL | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
on a serious note, playing bnet without chat channels is stupid. I made some friends over battle.net chat channels which have became my real friends now. Cant imagine what appeal there would be if there were no chat channels in sc2 anyway, if there were no chat channels in sc2, it would be a big turn off for their other hits, such as the upcoming diablo 3 and a possible(possible!) warcraft 4? I do not know but in the old bnet people from the 3 games could interact with each other thru bnet, which made bnet chat channels a major sticking point even tho there was crazy lag and delay compared to today's servers such as iccup | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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