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willeesmalls
United States477 Posts
1) select zerg 2) make roaches quickly. 3) Send roaches to enemy base when you have 7, rally your hatchery to enemy base and keep making roaches. Seriously, I don't see anyone below gold knowing how to beat that. Just play zerg and make a gazillion drones before u rally units at your opponents base. Nobody below like, top 30 platinum players know timing or can cheese properly. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
@FyRe_DragOn thanks! will do. i remember running back bw's campaign for shits and gigs after playing a few (devastating) rounds of this beta.  glad to know i'm not alone.@The6357 they're both pretty lame. i still make stupid, novice, rookie, mistakes. so i'm assuming these guys are just as bad. @BrowneY really appreciate it. i've spent nearly a month now seriously playing. ive got a lot of work to do. i'll add you right now! (ohaicami.ohaicami) @Grobyc i appreciate the kind words of encouragement! i've been watching a bunch of streams when i'm at my desk working, eating lunch, even just getting stoned and watching the streams is helping a lot. i'm scowering through all the threads right now, actually. i've even booted up BW a few times for some older ones just to know wtf they're talking about. thanks again. i'll keep at it! @TheAntZ thank you! hm, that makes a lot of sense. i'm usually stuck on either spending the extra cash on an expansion or pumping out marines. but then again, i'm getting too ahead of myself with strategies and whatnot. i guess i should start on the low tier game! @Angra will do! so far my favorite person to watch has been TheLittleOne. just watching one of the replays with him in it completely changed the way i look at the game. i used to think i had a grasp on the macro but had no micro. now i have a fuckton of micro but my macro game has slipped. thanks for the advice :D @Adeeler orly? i didnt know winning streaks affected your matchup. thanks. i'll keep that in mind. most i've had was 11 ... and i guess thats when shit started to fall apart. hah. @Tadzio hm, thats the first time i've heard someone else say that. i used to have the attitude of just using beta to fuck around with the races (since its been so long since i've played), but i started getting caught up with rankings and whatnot. now i realize, the higher i'm ranked the higher level players i'm going up against. so i guess copper's just fine for now.  @willeesmalls hah. if thats true, then i want no part of it. i'm not just trying to get platinum so i could shake my shiny giant epeen at everyone. i really do want to have fun with the damn game. but thanks anyway  | ||
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seRapH
United States9706 Posts
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Canada505 Posts
Then one day I try a 4-warpgate push, works well. Did it again and again. Perfected the timing, worked on my unit micro, thought of ways to go from there should it fail, learned to scout for specific things that I know will counter my build. I think it comes down to this: Keep it simple. Find a build that only focuses on producing as many units as you can sustain and do so. Make it so you have nothing else to do but remembering to produce units and control them well. The idea is not to "cheese" your way to the top (this is the beta, who cares about ranking). It's to master the basics before moving to the next step. Once you can execute your rush/push/whatever build perfectly and without even thinking, doing more safe/solid variations aren't so complicated anymore. And best of all, you don't forget to spend money because that's what you've been practicing all this time. I'm still pretty low ranked, so don't take this as advice. But if you're about to quit from frustration, try it before you do :D | ||
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seRapH
United States9706 Posts
you kids got it so easy, with your copper leagues and your bronze leagues and your placement matches... + Show Spoiler + i hope you read that in an old man voice | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 20:54 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: dont worry too much if you get completely curbstomped by someone in copper/bronze. one of my friends,a C- bw player, got faced with 3 superior players playing their placements, so he went 2-3 and got stuck in bronze. sad for him, took him a lot of overpool->roach push to get back into platinum. Yeah, i've come across more people who are pretty damn good but love coasting in copper, since the rookies are ripe for the pickins. hopefully, for your friend and myself, the next reset places me in something a bit more decent. i wouldn't mind silver lol and yes, there was a hint of an old man voice. BUT luckily for me, back on those days, i was just working in eSports as opposed to playing in it. mwahah. i got the easy way out. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 21:00 Back wrote: I know where you're coming from. Was bronze for a bit, and lost all my placement matches after the profile resets to find myself at the bottom of copper where I would barely win half my matches. For someone who has only been playing for a few weeks, that seems about right BUT, when you spend all day thinking about starcraft2, watching replays, planning builds... etc, you kinda feel like you should be progressing much faster. It turns out the only problem might have been that I was all over the place and stopped doing the basics once things got complicated. Then one day I try a 4-warpgate push, works well. Did it again and again. Perfected the timing, worked on my unit micro, thought of ways to go from there should it fail, learned to scout for specific things that I know will counter my build. I think it comes down to this: Keep it simple. Find a build that only focuses on producing as many units as you can sustain and do so. Make it so you have nothing else to do but remembering to produce units and control them well. The idea is not to "cheese" your way to the top (this is the beta, who cares about ranking). It's to master the basics before moving to the next step. Once you can execute your rush/push/whatever build perfectly and without even thinking, doing more safe/solid variations aren't so complicated anymore. And best of all, you don't forget to spend money because that's what you've been practicing all this time. I'm still pretty low ranked, so don't take this as advice. But if you're about to quit from frustration, try it before you do :D Wow, sounds like a page from my book. Good to hear from you. You might be completely right about losing hold of the basics. I find myself losing to absolute bull shit sometimes and try blaming it on some other conspiracy that's against me. But, maybe I should brush up on basics again. That probably can't hurt. Your advice hits the spot a little bit more than you think. I'm definitely getting ahead of myself. I try to plan for some epic strat that I saw some player do one time, as opposed to just working on the foundations of what made that play go so well. (: Thanks! | ||
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fredd
Estonia256 Posts
that's exactly what I thought this was reading the title | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
climbed up to silver and i think i can go higher. | ||
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faction123
Australia949 Posts
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 21:59 madnessman wrote: Yeah I got into a gold winning 4/5 placement matches without ANY sc2 knowledge or experience just by keeping it simple. My basic formula is this... Stay one base, build 4 gates, wait for them to push, defeat their push, expand, macro until i hit 200 and attack them. It worked well my for my placement games but I'm actually having a little trouble in Gold because I don't know anything about the new units or counters so my army gets decimated although my 'graph' is always higher than theirs... I'm gonna watch some user streams and actually learn how to play after APs. Interesting. Like I said, I've only ever placed Bronze, and even then I didn't really know what was going on. How are you holding up in Gold? I guess what I'm asking is, do you struggle? Or are you having a pretty good time? I'd like to at least get to a point where I'm equally challenged in a fun and fair game, as opposed to either completely beasting on someone... or getting slaughtered. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On May 04 2010 20:25 willeesmalls wrote: How to get to platinum: 1) select zerg 2) make roaches quickly. 3) Send roaches to enemy base when you have 7, rally your hatchery to enemy base and keep making roaches. Seriously, I don't see anyone below gold knowing how to beat that. Just play zerg and make a gazillion drones before u rally units at your opponents base. Nobody below like, top 30 platinum players know timing or can cheese properly. I am low gold and falling fast, probably belong in Silver. But when I scout that I can get cannons and zeals and stop it. I think someone tried it and I held it off and then kicked their ass with phoenix / immortal / zeal / stalker / sentry. I think I lost to it also, though. If you don't see it coming it will kick your ass. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:01 jhNz wrote: i got seeded into copper too. i think i had really good opponents in my placement matches. climbed up to silver and i think i can go higher. Hm, I only remember playing 1 plat player (err at least he claimed to be plat) told me he was going to lose to me so he can drop to copper. We had a long conversation about the ranking system while I took out his base with my SCV's. Won 1 of the other 4 and wound up in Bronze. Sadly, I didn't get to play too much, then the beta reset. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:03 faction123 wrote: Use the time you spend in copper to try 8 refinery 10 ebay 10 depot 11 planetary fortress in your enemies nat, as you may never get another chance to Haha. Did all of that the 2nd week I had the beta, after a friend told me about it. But now, I'm really trying my damndest to get better. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On May 04 2010 21:59 madnessman wrote: Yeah I got into a gold winning 4/5 placement matches without ANY sc2 knowledge or experience just by keeping it simple. My basic formula is this... Stay one base, build 4 gates, wait for them to push, defeat their push, expand, macro until i hit 200 and attack them. It worked well my for my placement games but I'm actually having a little trouble in Gold because I don't know anything about the new units or counters so my army gets decimated although my 'graph' is always higher than theirs... I'm gonna watch some user streams and actually learn how to play after APs. That's kinda my basic formula, except I don't wait till 200 after expanding because I don't wanna give them the chance to expand. My graph at gold is smaller. 3 of my placement games were PvT wins with Void Ray rushes but gold terrans are ready for that shit. I think I would do a lot better if I stopped rushing void rays and went back to killing pushes and then expanding. I gotta look up a standard PvT build... | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I am low gold and falling fast, probably belong in Silver. But when I scout that I can get cannons and zeals and stop it. I think someone tried it and I held it off and then kicked their ass with phoenix / immortal / zeal / stalker / sentry. I think I lost to it also, though. If you don't see it coming it will kick your ass. There's a counter for everything :D | ||
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keNn)
Philippines297 Posts
id: keNn.kenn ownagekenn@gmail.com | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:16 ohaicami wrote: Interesting. Like I said, I've only ever placed Bronze, and even then I didn't really know what was going on. How are you holding up in Gold? I guess what I'm asking is, do you struggle? Or are you having a pretty good time? I'd like to at least get to a point where I'm equally challenged in a fun and fair game, as opposed to either completely beasting on someone... or getting slaughtered. It's fun because although I've lost like every match it usually takes like 30+ minutes for them to kill me and when the game is over I feel proud because my net worth (or whatever its called in SC2) is always higher than theirs until the end when my army just melts. 2 weeks, 5 exams and I'll be able to concentrate on SC2 more and I'm gonna try gettting top 10 plat. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 21:58 fredd wrote: that's exactly what I thought this was reading the title Oh. Sorry, I didn't mean to be so misleading. | ||
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