EPTOn May 04 2010 22:33 keNn) wrote:
if anyone who is playing on asia.
id: keNn.kenn
ownagekenn@gmail.com
if anyone who is playing on asia.
id: keNn.kenn
ownagekenn@gmail.com
I'm half filipino. Heh.
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
I'm half filipino. Heh. | ||
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Rotodyne
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:36 madnessman wrote: It's fun because although I've lost like every match it usually takes like 30+ minutes for them to kill me and when the game is over I feel proud because my net worth (or whatever its called in SC2) is always higher than theirs until the end when my army just melts. 2 weeks, 5 exams and I'll be able to concentrate on SC2 more and I'm gonna try gettting top 10 plat. Insanely jealous. I only hope to ever get there. Right now, in copper, I'm either playing someone completely new, or someone insanely good. And even when I do get a great match that I win, I can't help but feel that I barely win it. Anyway, I hope you make it to plat :D! It sucks that real life takes us away from what TRULY gives us pleasure, eh? I've got a solid week this week of just playing, so hopefully, I can pull out of copper this week. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: That's kinda my basic formula, except I don't wait till 200 after expanding because I don't wanna give them the chance to expand. My graph at gold is smaller. 3 of my placement games were PvT wins with Void Ray rushes but gold terrans are ready for that shit. I think I would do a lot better if I stopped rushing void rays and went back to killing pushes and then expanding. I gotta look up a standard PvT build... I've been rushed a few times by toss players with Void Rays, and I start to crumble since my early game is just about harassing the toss player as best as I can. I'm not sure if I'm just trying to be too fancy, or if there's really nothing I can do about it. :< | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:42 Rotodyne wrote: oops misread ;* | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
At the same time I found 2v2 where my teammate speaks Korean to me all game despire the fact that I type in English with him and we still beat our opponents is great :D I am Terran btw, and Terran players are rare specie on Asia server. out of 10 games maybe 1 TvT . The amount of Zerg and Protoss on Asia server is insane.. | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:42 ohaicami wrote: Insanely jealous. I only hope to ever get there. Right now, in copper, I'm either playing someone completely new, or someone insanely good. And even when I do get a great match that I win, I can't help but feel that I barely win it. Anyway, I hope you make it to plat :D! It sucks that real life takes us away from what TRULY gives us pleasure, eh? I've got a solid week this week of just playing, so hopefully, I can pull out of copper this week. Yup real life is annoying. Haha. Remember, most people in Copper-Gold actually aren't that good at macroing if I'm out producing them. Just constantly produce probes/drones/SCVs, build lots of unit production buildings, don't be too scared to take your natural expansion, and try to keep your average unspent minerals under 400. Someone has probably already told you that (and if they haven't START DOING IT NOW) and I know it isn't that easy but concentrate on that and you'll have a huge army compared to most people. | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: That's kinda my basic formula, except I don't wait till 200 after expanding because I don't wanna give them the chance to expand. My graph at gold is smaller. 3 of my placement games were PvT wins with Void Ray rushes but gold terrans are ready for that shit. I think I would do a lot better if I stopped rushing void rays and went back to killing pushes and then expanding. I gotta look up a standard PvT build... I just scout to make sure they don't expand beyond their nat. Nobody I've played has ever taken a 3rd I think... ARGH need to stop posting on TL and just sleep. EDIT: oops double post sorry. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:54 Caphe wrote: Well, I am on last spot at my gold division lol. Lost some games and I dont have the motivation to play 1v1 anymore. At the same time I found 2v2 where my teammate speaks Korean to me all game despire the fact that I type in English with him and we still beat our opponents is great :D I am Terran btw, and Terran players are rare specie on Asia server. out of 10 games maybe 1 TvT . The amount of Zerg and Protoss on Asia server is insane.. Haha, aww. Don't be discouraged. You'r talking to a teetering top 10 copper player, here. I'm currently looking up to the Golden ladder! But, I do know how you feel. I was embarrassingly dropped from Bronze because: a) I stopped playing for a good 2 weeks b) Some dude probably got bumped into Bronze and deserved it. Terran seemed to be the standard to play with. I only ever see Terran (being a US player). Hm, it's funny how the race variety differs depending on what continent you're on. I can only be excited for when I can play internationally. LOL @ your korean friend btw. | ||
micronesia
United States24680 Posts
It sounds like you have a better attitude than your OP implied. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 22:59 madnessman wrote: Yup real life is annoying. Haha. Remember, most people in Copper-Gold actually aren't that good at macroing if I'm out producing them. Just constantly produce probes/drones/SCVs, build lots of unit production buildings, don't be too scared to take your natural expansion, and try to keep your average unspent minerals under 400. Someone has probably already told you that (and if they haven't START DOING IT NOW) and I know it isn't that easy but concentrate on that and you'll have a huge army compared to most people. You're right, I hear this ALL the time, and yet I still find myself slipping to hitting that 1k mark. I cringe even admitting to it, but I'm not going to bullshit you just to make myself look good. At that point I end up just throwing down expansions. I'm actually failing on the unit production building, and it's nice of you to point that out. I get too caught up with any advances I'm currently making that I completely forget to macro. I'll definitely, DEFINITELY, work on that :D! | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 23:01 madnessman wrote: I just scout to make sure they don't expand beyond their nat. Nobody I've played has ever taken a 3rd I think... ARGH need to stop posting on TL and just sleep. EDIT: oops double post sorry. No, don't sleep! It's 7:30am here and I've got no intentions of sleeping. Boyfriend's coming over at like, noon, and I'm going to just lie to him and say that I woke up early just to get on TL. So, suck it up! ... hehe jk. | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 04 2010 23:34 micronesia wrote: I'm impressed everyone is being so positive/constructive after that OP. It sounds like you have a better attitude than your OP implied. Hm, I honestly didn't mean to sound so brash. I guess I was just full of nerd-rage and didn't know what to do with it. I don't have many friends that play SC2, and the ones that do are not very good. All they every do is cheese their way to the top and barely give me sound advice. I've only ever just lurked here before, and I just started posting on blogs because, well, I'm on here so goddamn much lol. I apologize if I sounded like a complete jackass in my OP. I was just frustrated. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has felt that way. Btw, I'm also impressed (and somewhat in awe) that everyone has been so helpful. It's probably why I'm still here, nearly 8am just reading/replying. Edit: Come to think of it, I didn't even really expect ANYONE to read it, let alone reply to it :/ | ||
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Ian Ian Ian
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I hate the way sc2 is played, sc1 so much better :/ | ||
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hoborg
United States430 Posts
On May 04 2010 23:34 ohaicami wrote: You're right, I hear this ALL the time, and yet I still find myself slipping to hitting that 1k mark. When this happens, as day9 always says, instead of thinking how to spend that money quickly, look at the game in retrospect and think how you could have spent that money before you got to that point. If your problem is that you're just forgetting to produce constantly from your buildings, focus ONLY on that for a few games. Figure out the best way to hotkey your stuff so that it's really quick to make a round of units (I play T and hotkey every production building to one number and tab between them) If your problem is that you collect extra money on top of what you need for production, focus on adding more barracks/warpgates/hatcheries into your build sooner. It would probably be a good idea to try making TOO MANY production facilities so that you can learn how many will work out for you based on your econ. | ||
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
In patch 1 I went from Copper to Platinum took a lot more games than it does now, but it helped me improve at the game so much. Copper was about 30 games, bronze was about 60, silver was about 40 and gold was about 25. Of course as soon as I hit Platinum the first reset happened. I do miss silver, it was my most favourite league for the diversity of skill you played. | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
I'm the OCD type of person who disgustingly enjoys starting from the bottom and working their way up. So I'm assuming you just try to get to the strongest units as soon as possible. I've never been in copper but I'm guessing you could faceroll everybody there just by constant scv production and being very aggressive as soon as you can get low tier units. This lets you focus on small parts of the game and prevents you from having to get in macro fests vs weak players while your mechanics (managing many units/structures) are still developing (to put it nicely) edit: also start hotkeying everything and using keyboard shortcuts instead of clicks ALWAYS - this takes time if you are new to rts but if you dont start now you will get stuck somewhere in bronze/silver anyways | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 05 2010 00:13 Ian Ian Ian wrote: I'm stuck in silver and ama ctually having a hard time. I get all in cheesed every other game. I don't know how people everywhere are saying how easy it is to get to plat :/ I hate the way sc2 is played, sc1 so much better :/ Oh no. Were you ranked higher in sc1? I've loaded sc1 a few times to either watch a replay or try to get a better understanding of some of the older threads I was reading. But, I don't think I can ever go back.  | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
On May 04 2010 19:53 NiGoL wrote: i cant even imagine being in copper/solver at all, i don't even know how to get there lol. Simple way to get to silver: in placement matches, lose 1 game because you mess up the hotkey that transforms overlord to overseer, despite the fact having double the supply of your opponent. Lose another game to tripple proxy gateway in PvP. There u go, you're silver T_T (that's what happened to me... Anyways, climbed to gold now  !) | ||
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On May 05 2010 00:20 hoborg wrote: When this happens, as day9 always says, instead of thinking how to spend that money quickly, look at the game in retrospect and think how you could have spent that money before you got to that point. If your problem is that you're just forgetting to produce constantly from your buildings, focus ONLY on that for a few games. Figure out the best way to hotkey your stuff so that it's really quick to make a round of units (I play T and hotkey every production building to one number and tab between them) If your problem is that you collect extra money on top of what you need for production, focus on adding more barracks/warpgates/hatcheries into your build sooner. It would probably be a good idea to try making TOO MANY production facilities so that you can learn how many will work out for you based on your econ. I also play T, and my problem is either forgetting to produce units (and hotkey-ing the each building would probably fix that) OR I get myself in a situation where I am stuck with the same production buildings that I started with. Watching a lot of these matches, I realize, as most of these players expand, they're dropping pairs or trips of each building. So, I guess I need to working on both. Trial and error is what I've been doing. Even then I've been doing it all wrong. I'd experiment certain strats as soon as I know the game has turned towards my defeat. That way I can get in the "practice". Maybe that's what's kept me sunk so low lately, because then, I develop such bad habits when I do win that way. Thank you so much for the advice. I'll def keep that in mind  | ||
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