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On April 23 2010 22:22 Sensator wrote:
I'd have an opinion if only I could get into the game, my patcher just says Your computer appears to be behind a firewall, and when it slowly finishes downloading (takes hours) it came up with an error. So I removed SC2 and reinstalled, getting the exact same firewall bs. Hope it works this time, I doubt it.
Oh God, you're not the only one! Took me all night to realize that when it says "Your computer appears to be behind a firewall", it doesn't stop downloading the patch. So I closed out of the downloader and tried to run it again, only to have it assume I had the patch already and boot up SC2 instead. After re-installing the game (and downloading ALL patches sequentially, "behind a firewall"), I could finally log in, but at that point didn't have any time to play =/. Thinking about reporting this as a bug to Blizzard.
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Help me on this 1 plz big discussion goin on.
zion says:Blizzard intented for eggs to b cancelled back into larva right ? but didnt foresee abuse
Friends say: This is a bug, blizzard released this patch not knowing that if u cancel a egg it turns into larva.
Thx u !
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If only we could have the patch live here, in Europe, i could have an opinion.
My big fear is that at 7pm (in less than 3hours!) the patch and update servers fall in that loop again.
/me crosses fingers.
Its so weird that my friends are still online playing patch 8 in benet with another 8k  Lucky sobs.!
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Obviously blizzard doesn't know what to do regarding the balance. I just read an article on ars technica. Here's what Dustin Browder said:
StarCraft 2 Lead Designer Dustin Browder is holding court in the theater of Blizzard's main office in Irvine, California. We're waiting for the data from the game to be moved onto the computer hooked up to the projector, and numerous beeps from the PC behind him seem to be a distraction. Browder uses the time to answer some questions about the game.
"The Protoss are winning," he tells someone who asked about game balancing. "And they're winning alot." According to their stats, when Terran faces Zerg, or Protoss faces Zerg, the win/loss numbers are within 1 percent of each other. When Protoss faces Terran, there is a five percent advantage to Protoss. He says they're still gathering data, and points out that there are regional differences as well: on the Korean servers, the Zerg seem to need to be somewhat nerfed, as that race is dominating. In the US, the Zerg seem to need a little help.
source
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On April 23 2010 23:56 Mnemic wrote:Obviously blizzard doesn't know what to do regarding the balance. I just read an article on ars technica. Here's what Dustin Browder said: Show nested quote +StarCraft 2 Lead Designer Dustin Browder is holding court in the theater of Blizzard's main office in Irvine, California. We're waiting for the data from the game to be moved onto the computer hooked up to the projector, and numerous beeps from the PC behind him seem to be a distraction. Browder uses the time to answer some questions about the game.
"The Protoss are winning," he tells someone who asked about game balancing. "And they're winning alot." According to their stats, when Terran faces Zerg, or Protoss faces Zerg, the win/loss numbers are within 1 percent of each other. When Protoss faces Terran, there is a five percent advantage to Protoss. He says they're still gathering data, and points out that there are regional differences as well: on the Korean servers, the Zerg seem to need to be somewhat nerfed, as that race is dominating. In the US, the Zerg seem to need a little help. source
How is this related to "Blizz doesnt know what to do regarding balance"? Browder just stated that TvP is P>T and that is true, most TL users seem to agree with this as well:
http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8937
http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8940
Most people seem to think that it's so easy to balance game "immortals are so powerful, nerf them and it will be ok". But it does not work that way, sometimes slight change can break the game and they are well aware of this. At this moment SC2 is way more balanced than when it was released - and it is a sign that Blizzard's balance changes are going in very good direction
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On April 23 2010 05:38 In1t4themoney wrote:
PLEASE just bring back vultures for hellions and worlds fine >D
is there anyone who would argue with that? (you should play wow :D )
You should play bw 
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I can tell them how to fix TvP. Give us our god damn good tanks back. We have no mid game against Protoss because we can either sit on bio and hope our emp does enough damage or try to get enough thor to where we can go toe to toe with them.
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ever since the patch, I can't log in. I enter my password and it just sits there.... anyone else?
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On April 24 2010 00:40 ttsp wrote:
ever since the patch, I can't log in. I enter my password and it just sits there.... anyone else?
i haev the same problem :S Whats wrong?
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btw has anyone realized that in 2v2 twilight fortress, at least if you spawn on the bottom side, some of your workers will go all the way to your allies mineral patch and harvest the minerals from there instead?
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On April 24 2010 00:34 Kaniol wrote:How is this related to "Blizz doesnt know what to do regarding balance"? Browder just stated that TvP is P>T and that is true, most TL users seem to agree with this as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8937http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8940Most people seem to think that it's so easy to balance game "immortals are so powerful, nerf them and it will be ok". But it does not work that way, sometimes slight change can break the game and they are well aware of this. At this moment SC2 is way more balanced than when it was released - and it is a sign that Blizzard's balance changes are going in very good direction
Actually its more related to the new patch.
Dustin clearly stated they want more unit diversitiy in sc2. I dont think that it can be achived only by nerfing/buffing marauders. Why didnt they increase the raven's point defense drone mana for example? Currently its useless. Why didnt they make the terran mech more mobile? If they need to make certain or all matchups broken just to get more info then let it be (if thats nescesery for more unit dversitiy, i can live with that).
just my opinion....
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On April 24 2010 01:20 never_toss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2010 00:40 ttsp wrote:
ever since the patch, I can't log in. I enter my password and it just sits there.... anyone else? i haev the same problem :S Whats wrong?
1. Enter password and connect
2. Hit the arrow beside your e-mail
3. Enter password and connect again 
Seems like you have to connect twice to log in elsewise it the screen will remain stuck.
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On April 24 2010 01:43 Keype wrote:
come on marauders gettin buffed agien and roaches as usual not touched and protoss nerfed 9patch in a row its just silly,
Perhaps it's because Toss were the most powerful race?
Roaches I personally think are powerful, but Marauders without Concussive Shells were really annoying. You needed to get that upgrade but it just took so long. Atleast they've sped it up.
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ooh down for maintenance.
hope this is a hotfix
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On April 24 2010 01:46 Mios wrote:
ooh down for maintenance.
hope this is a hotfix
Hopefully they're going to get Europe working as well now, I haven't been playing since 19th because most of the time it does not let me log in and then when I get on my account has always been reset.
Would be fucked up if they did not fix the larva bug before they go off work for weekend!
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On April 24 2010 01:32 Mnemic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2010 00:34 Kaniol wrote:How is this related to "Blizz doesnt know what to do regarding balance"? Browder just stated that TvP is P>T and that is true, most TL users seem to agree with this as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8937http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=8940Most people seem to think that it's so easy to balance game "immortals are so powerful, nerf them and it will be ok". But it does not work that way, sometimes slight change can break the game and they are well aware of this. At this moment SC2 is way more balanced than when it was released - and it is a sign that Blizzard's balance changes are going in very good direction Actually its more related to the new patch. Dustin clearly stated they want more unit diversitiy in sc2. I dont think that it can be achived only by nerfing/buffing marauders. Why didnt they increase the raven's point defense drone mana for example? Currently its useless. Why didnt they make the terran mech more mobile? If they need to make certain or all matchups broken just to get more info then let it be (if thats nescesery for more unit dversitiy, i can live with that). just my opinion....
You can't possibly be SERIOUS.
This is why sifting through these boards is such a pain. Every uninformed person wants to have their say about balance when the level they play at doesn't even warrant any form of complaint.
PLEASE, take a step back and actually learn to play the game before mouthing off nonsense.
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With new patch, did they reset the profiles and stats? A.k.a. do you have to do placement matches all over again?
Thanks for answer in advance.
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On April 24 2010 01:49 BentoBox wrote:
You can't possibly be SERIOUS.
This is why sifting through these boards is such a pain. Every uninformed person wants to have their say about balance when the level they play at doesn't even warrant any form of complaint.
PLEASE, take a step back and actually learn to play the game before mouthing off nonsense.
Very nice argumented reply. If its such a pain why are u bothering yourself?
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