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On February 17 2010 20:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: When shine wins with 2 hatch muta he's a cheesy faggot
When did that happen? Also, why didn't Really start his factory tech immediately as soon as he scanned the lurkers.
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On February 17 2010 20:27 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 20:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: When shine wins with 2 hatch muta he's a cheesy faggot
When jaedong wins with 2 hatch muta he EXPERTLY DISMANTLED THE NOOB TERRAN WITH PERFECT MICRO
etc.
I thought 815's build was cool, even if it was all-inish who cares? Really microed terribly and deserved to lose. Because JD's 2 hatch mutas are never all-in. He expands and drones like normal, its just his micro does more damage than a standard zerg's muta all in.
*cough* Jaedong vs Iris *cough*
That was pure all in mutas, and of course everyone was like "OMGGGG JAEDONG SO SEXY, 2 CONTROL GROUPS" But when Shine kills an archon with mutas its "FUCKING NOOBIE CHEESE"
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Jaedong had five bases running against Iris by the end of that game. Are you comparing 2 hatch muta ZvT to ZvP?Seriously.
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oh this is just unbelievable! Come on, Really? (no pun intended). Jesus Christ man!
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On February 18 2010 02:24 OreoBoi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 20:27 SuperArc wrote:On February 17 2010 20:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: When shine wins with 2 hatch muta he's a cheesy faggot
When jaedong wins with 2 hatch muta he EXPERTLY DISMANTLED THE NOOB TERRAN WITH PERFECT MICRO
etc.
I thought 815's build was cool, even if it was all-inish who cares? Really microed terribly and deserved to lose. Because JD's 2 hatch mutas are never all-in. He expands and drones like normal, its just his micro does more damage than a standard zerg's muta all in. *cough* Jaedong vs Iris *cough* That was pure all in mutas, and of course everyone was like "OMGGGG JAEDONG SO SEXY, 2 CONTROL GROUPS" But when Shine kills an archon with mutas its "FUCKING NOOBIE CHEESE"
The game on WL finals last season? Checked the game and looked like JD had 5 bases when the game ended, how is that all in?
edit: Avidkeystamper beat me to it
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On February 18 2010 02:31 calvinL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2010 02:24 OreoBoi wrote:On February 17 2010 20:27 SuperArc wrote:On February 17 2010 20:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: When shine wins with 2 hatch muta he's a cheesy faggot
When jaedong wins with 2 hatch muta he EXPERTLY DISMANTLED THE NOOB TERRAN WITH PERFECT MICRO
etc.
I thought 815's build was cool, even if it was all-inish who cares? Really microed terribly and deserved to lose. Because JD's 2 hatch mutas are never all-in. He expands and drones like normal, its just his micro does more damage than a standard zerg's muta all in. *cough* Jaedong vs Iris *cough* That was pure all in mutas, and of course everyone was like "OMGGGG JAEDONG SO SEXY, 2 CONTROL GROUPS" But when Shine kills an archon with mutas its "FUCKING NOOBIE CHEESE" The game on WL finals last season? Checked the game and looked like JD had 5 bases when the game ended, how is that all in? edit: Avidkeystamper beat me to it so you find one game where jaedong has 5 bases after two hatch and say that JD doesn't use two hatch as "all-ins?"
edit: I don't really mind two hatch builds because I think they are fun to watch but the differentiation some people have made between jaedong and shine is absurd. it's not all-in when jd does it because he doesn't "intend" it to be but simply happens to be good at using mutas...what
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I'm not the one who picked the game, and I'm not saying he never uses 2hat all ins, just that he picked a terrible example to explain his point.
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I like how every Zerg cheese thread becomes a Shine thread, that kid's made his mark.
Anyway, if we're referring to when Shine beat Stork using only mutas, he had 4 bases in that game.
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Go Kwanro. Any starleague becomes more exciting once this guy makes it in.
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Looking forward to Kwanro getting his revenge on Stork this OSL. There is no excuse to losing to 815, Really. You just tanked it bad, bro.
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Any bitching about "cheese strategies" is the worst part of the SC community.
Completely legit strategy that you should be ready for, and its always a nice mix up rather than straight macro games.
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unexpected results for me!
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BULL FUCKING SHIT
815 go fucking die... you cheese your way past really only to run into the player who deserves to lose MOST in the tourney and then YOU FUCKING LAY AN EGG... I would have respect for you if you'd beaten Fuckzerg but no you have to get your ass rolled. Thanks for RUINING this OSL.
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On February 18 2010 03:55 KnightOfNi wrote: BULL FUCKING SHIT
815 go fucking die... you cheese your way past really only to run into the player who deserves to lose MOST in the tourney and then YOU FUCKING LAY AN EGG... I would have respect for you if you'd beaten Fuckzerg but no you have to get your ass rolled. Thanks for RUINING this OSL. lol. So much rage. Artosis has deceived you. Really is bad.
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Wow, I've never been impressed since Really can't put up results, but he played truly terribly this time around. His vaunted mechanics or whatever else is supposed to be the attributes that make him a "strong player" - his weaknesses more than make up for them.
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On February 18 2010 02:24 OreoBoi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 20:27 SuperArc wrote:On February 17 2010 20:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: When shine wins with 2 hatch muta he's a cheesy faggot
When jaedong wins with 2 hatch muta he EXPERTLY DISMANTLED THE NOOB TERRAN WITH PERFECT MICRO
etc.
I thought 815's build was cool, even if it was all-inish who cares? Really microed terribly and deserved to lose. Because JD's 2 hatch mutas are never all-in. He expands and drones like normal, its just his micro does more damage than a standard zerg's muta all in. *cough* Jaedong vs Iris *cough* That was pure all in mutas, and of course everyone was like "OMGGGG JAEDONG SO SEXY, 2 CONTROL GROUPS" But when Shine kills an archon with mutas its "FUCKING NOOBIE CHEESE" its because jaedong has the skills to back it up
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On February 18 2010 03:55 KnightOfNi wrote: BULL FUCKING SHIT
815 go fucking die... you cheese your way past really only to run into the player who deserves to lose MOST in the tourney and then YOU FUCKING LAY AN EGG... I would have respect for you if you'd beaten Fuckzerg but no you have to get your ass rolled. Thanks for RUINING this OSL.
Calm down boy. Really didn't show up to play so its not his fault 815 beat him and Kwanro is better than both and deserves to go on. Like his playstyle or not he has been getting pretty consistent wins. In fact, he's going to Kwanroll his way to at least the Ro8.
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On February 18 2010 05:32 vnlegend wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2010 03:55 KnightOfNi wrote: BULL FUCKING SHIT
815 go fucking die... you cheese your way past really only to run into the player who deserves to lose MOST in the tourney and then YOU FUCKING LAY AN EGG... I would have respect for you if you'd beaten Fuckzerg but no you have to get your ass rolled. Thanks for RUINING this OSL. lol. So much rage. Artosis has deceived you. Really is bad.
Really has never, ever, been good at TvZ.
His success comes from two things: being very very good at TvP and being competant enough at TvT to end Flash's streak and beat Fantasy.
Honestly, these results SHOULD be expected, but myself, and many estro fans, had prayed that perhaps he just got better all-around.
Sadly, the answer is no. Really and Upmagic still stuck in ind leagues.
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terrans who are good at tvp but bad at tvz are such a rare breed
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