On February 08 2010 08:51 CharlieMurphy wrote: lol soccer is the gayest sport, pretty sure if NFL players took off their pads people would be ruined for life or dead very often. These guys almost always retire with chronic injuries and their life expectancies are far lower than average people even thought they are physically in better shape/healthier (aside from injuries) than people.
and yes it is a ball, just because it's an oval shaped ball and not a sphere doesn't mean it's not a ball.
average life expectancies of ice hockey players : 73.9 average life expectancies of chess players: 62,9
speaking of gay sports...
isn't american football without all the equipment the thing we call rugby over here?
American football is the pussy sport where every player has to over guard themselves with big cups of plastic protecting every limb and bone where as rugby it's you and the ball NO plastic NO helmets NO nothing... I'm afraid you sir above me are mistaken badly
Studies in the United States show that men who play five or more years in the NFL have a life expectancy of 55, 20 years less than the average in the general public. For linemen, perhaps due to their size, the life expectancy is 52.
Rugby players in comparison live 10 years less than normal people (so about 65)
PS- Rugby and NFL are so different. Rugby is more like contact soccer with your hands.
Studies in the United States show that men who play five or more years in the NFL have a life expectancy of 55, 20 years less than the average in the general public. For linemen, perhaps due to their size, the life expectancy is 52.
That is fucking terrifying. You got a link to the studies?
God Americans are so pushy when it comes to their sports. A sport being 'tough' doesn't make it good. If you ever talk to an american about soccer being a better sport, they say, soccer is for pussies, we tackle.
On February 08 2010 11:55 HazMat wrote: God Americans are so pushy when it comes to their sports. A sport being 'tough' doesn't make it good. If you ever talk to an american about soccer being a better sport, they say, soccer is for pussies, we tackle.
Americans? Which people spoke for all Americans? My observation is that only some Americans are like this.... aren't some soccer fans equally miserable?
On February 08 2010 11:55 HazMat wrote: God Americans are so pushy when it comes to their sports. A sport being 'tough' doesn't make it good. If you ever talk to an american about soccer being a better sport, they say, soccer is for pussies, we tackle.
it was 'you guys' who started it. so don't blame me or my people.
On February 08 2010 11:55 HazMat wrote: God Americans are so pushy when it comes to their sports. A sport being 'tough' doesn't make it good. If you ever talk to an american about soccer being a better sport, they say, soccer is for pussies, we tackle.
it was 'you guys' who started it. so don't blame me or my people.
I think the problem is that American football is actually, or at least in my opinion, quite complicated. There are a few different ways to score, and the score you get varies from method to method.
For the sake of comparison, think about soccer and hockey. They are relatively simple and you get one point for getting your ball/bucket into the other team's nest.
On February 08 2010 12:48 illu wrote: I think the problem is that American football is actually, or at least in my opinion, quite complicated. There are a few different ways to score, and the score you get varies from method to method.
For the sake of comparison, think about soccer and hockey. They are relatively simple and you get one point for getting your ball/bucket into the other team's nest.
For the sake of comparison, think about Starcraft. It is relatively simple and you get one win for getting the opponent to write gg before you.
Futbol (soccer) is a beautiful sport, there's no reason to be insulting it. It's not tough like rugby or football or hockey, but it's not trying to be.
As for comparing football and rugby, the argument that rugby or Aussie rules are football without pads is bogus. Aside from the fact that most NFL players are better/stronger/bigger athletes (and they are much bigger, and NOT fatter), the games work differently. Most tackles in rugby are true tackles, at low speeds because there's not much distant to accelerate. Tackles in football are violent collisions, where people can essentially dive at each other, and the helmets actually make the problem worse. Football helmets are very dangerous and very hard.
Watching it on a TV, it's difficult to comprehend just how big NFL players are. Dhani Jones went to workout with Blackheath in London, and he's a lower level player in the NFL now. He's smaller than anyone on a line and he's not fast anymore. But he was the biggest and fastest player on the pitch.
It used to be played without pads around the turn of the century, and at that point is was a much slower game. In 1909, 33 people died playing college football (not that many teams were playing at that point) and 76 were seriously injured. President Theodore Roosevelt is actually the one who forced the game to make reforms with rules and padding, or else he would try to ban the game. Theodore Roosevelt was definitely a tough guy.
On February 08 2010 12:48 illu wrote: I think the problem is that American football is actually, or at least in my opinion, quite complicated. There are a few different ways to score, and the score you get varies from method to method.
For the sake of comparison, think about soccer and hockey. They are relatively simple and you get one point for getting your ball/bucket into the other team's nest.
For the sake of comparison, think about Starcraft. It is relatively simple and you get one win for getting the opponent to write gg before you.
Can we keep the "my sport is better than your sport" or "my sport is tougher/more physical than your sport" stuff out of this thread? The OP isn't pushing any of this bullshit and there's no reason to respond with anything along these lines.
Just broaden your horizons a little and try to understand why other people enjoy a sport. Soccer is an amazing sport once you learn to appreciate it and personally it took me a while to do so. Unfortunately many Americans don't want to take the time to understand the game so they don't appreciate it the same way the rest of the world does.
Does anyone want to explain rugby to me? It looks interesting and shares a lot of characteristics with football, which I also enjoy, but I understand nothing about the rules of the game.
It also doesn't help that videos like that come out and the violence is heavily promoted by ESPN. Not only are those big layout tackles dangerous, but they're also less accurate and lead to more missed tackles, instead of the sure tackle by driving through someone.
Time Magazine just did an article about brain damage from football. The gist was basically that playing football, even at the middle school/high school level leads to serious brain damage. It's extremely barbaric, yet we love to watch it. o.o