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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 20:30:14
February 07 2010 20:24 GMT
#1
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This is my description of how the professionals play American Football (in case you want to watch the Superbowl tonight). I am no expert but reading through another thread made me realize how confusing the sport is when a bunch of people are all trying to explain it to you at the same time. I make no promises that I'll do a better job, but that's my goal.

First a few basic pieces of information about the field and scoring:

1) There are two teams playing. At any given time, one has possession of the ball and the other is on defense. As the game progresses the teams switch between offense and defense. If team A is targetting the end zone at the East end of the field, then team B is targetting the end zone at the West end of the field, and vice versa. The direction each team targets changes after each quarter/half, but it doesn't matter much except for wind. There are 4 quarters and 2 halves... although the end of the 1st and 3rd quarter don't matter that much. After the half, the offensive of whoever has the ball stops, so the team will desperately try to score before the clock runs out.

2) The field is 100 yards long. At each end of the field is an 'end zone' which is 10 yards long. See the diagram:

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3) There are several ways to score. The best way is for someone carrying the ball to run past the goal line into the end zone (touchdown, worth 6 points). Also, a receiver can catch the ball while standing in the end zone. Another way is for a kicker to kick the ball through the field goal (worth 3 points), seen here:

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4) If you score a touchdown, you then get a chance to make a field goal in addition, but it's only worth 1 point this time. Usually, when a team gets a touchdown, they then get a field goal also, which is worth a total of 7 points.

5) If you get tackled in your own end zone (as opposed to the other end zone which you are trying to run towards) it is a 'safety' and your opponent gets 2 points.

How the game is played

After a coin toss, one team is selected to kick off and the other team receives. The kicker kicks the ball as far as he can, and then his teammates run towards the receiving team to tackle them as soon as possible. The receiving team catches the ball and runs towards the kicking team's end zone. Either the runner with the ball gets tackled, or the play is settled before the kicking team even gets there.... the details are beyond the scope of this guide but I can answer questions about it. Here is an example where the kicking team actually failed to tackle the receiving team:



Suppose instead that the guy carrying the ball was tackled. That spot is where the receiving team begins their offensive. They have four chances (downs) to advance 10 yards towards the opponent's end zone. If they manage to advance 10+ yards, then their are once again given four chances to advance another 10 yards (first down). This continues until they fail to advance 10 yards or make it close to the opponent's end zone.

After the third down, if the offensive team has not advanced 10 yards yet, then it's their last chance to do so. Usually, the team will punt instead of trying to get the first down. There is a good reason for this. If you are on offense and you punt, then the other team picks up their offense from wherever the guy who catches the ball is tackled. However, if you instead choose to try to get the first down, and you fail, then the other team picks up their offense from the same spot where you started the last play (much closer to your own end zone; bad for you).

How do teams on offense advance? They have a few choices. The play begins when the ball is tossed to the quarterback. The quarterback then either throws the ball to a receiver, hands it off to a runner (running back), or occasionally runs with it himself. Once the ball has crossed the 'line of scrimmage' (the spot where the ball was before the play began), it can no longer be thrown forwards. Occasionally people throw the ball backwards (lateral) but that's not common. So for most plays the ball is either thrown forwards to a receiver or handed to a runner.

Lastly, how does the defensive team get the ball so they can go on the offensive? There are a few ways. The first is if they succeed in defending against the first down, forcing the other team to punt. The second is to 'intercept' the ball. If the quarterback throws a poor pass, then a defender might catch it instead of the receiver... thus turning the ball over to the defensive team. Also, if a running back or the quarterback (or wide receiver) drops the ball while he was in clear possession of it, it is a 'fumble' meaning whoever picks the ball up off the ground gets to go on the offensive.

Conclusion

This is by no means comprehensive. I did not explain what the deal is with flags/penalties, what a touchback is, or many other things. I tried to just focus on the things that you need to know in order to understand what the heck is going on.

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Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
February 07 2010 20:27 GMT
#2
U read ma blog?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111768
I pwn noobs
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
February 07 2010 20:30 GMT
#3
On February 08 2010 05:27 Neivler wrote:
U read ma blog?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111768


Hahaha so many people are clueless..guess it really is mainly an American sport..
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 20:30:58
February 07 2010 20:30 GMT
#4
On February 08 2010 05:27 Neivler wrote:
U read ma blog?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111768

Yeah hopefully if you are at all confused this will clear up some of that.

On February 08 2010 05:30 Megalisk wrote:
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On February 08 2010 05:27 Neivler wrote:
U read ma blog?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111768


Hahaha so many people are clueless..guess it really is mainly an American sport..

I have no idea how to play rugby so it's fair I guess.
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
February 07 2010 20:50 GMT
#5
On February 08 2010 05:30 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 05:27 Neivler wrote:
U read ma blog?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111768


Hahaha so many people are clueless..guess it really is mainly an American sport..

And to make note of that, not everyone in America even watches it either. Though it still grabs SO MUCH attention in US that it's crazy, similar to how "Professional Starcraft" can only be a Korean sport.... (despite the fact that it was made by Blizzard which is American...)
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Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
February 07 2010 20:58 GMT
#6
If a player receives the ball when he is in the endzone, is it still a touchdown then?
I pwn noobs
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
February 07 2010 20:59 GMT
#7
On February 08 2010 05:58 Neivler wrote:
If a player receives the ball when he is in the endzone, is it still a touchdown then?

Yes as I said, if he catches a pass from his quarterback while standing in the end zone then it's a touchdown.
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 21:02:29
February 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#8
On February 08 2010 05:58 Neivler wrote:
If a player receives the ball when he is in the endzone, is it still a touchdown then?


Assuming it's the correct endzone, yes. More or less, if the ball crosses the endzone line while still legally in possession of the offensive team, then it is a touchdown. Likewise, if the defensive team catches the ball (an interception) and manages to run into the opposite endzone, they will get a touchdown.
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Sauron
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania169 Posts
February 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#9
This blog's title is misleading
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 07 2010 21:03 GMT
#10
only misleading to europeans who are unimportant
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
February 07 2010 21:04 GMT
#11
Also might want to note that a safety is especially bad because not only does the other team get points, they get the ball afterward as opposed to a normal score which gives the ball to the defense.
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OMin
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States545 Posts
February 07 2010 21:13 GMT
#12
On February 08 2010 05:50 QuickStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 05:30 Megalisk wrote:
On February 08 2010 05:27 Neivler wrote:
U read ma blog?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111768


Hahaha so many people are clueless..guess it really is mainly an American sport..

And to make note of that, not everyone in America even watches it either. Though it still grabs SO MUCH attention in US that it's crazy, similar to how "Professional Starcraft" can only be a Korean sport.... (despite the fact that it was made by Blizzard which is American...)


starcraft is not a sport.... it is competitive but in no shape or form is it excercise. seriously, if i were a progamer id be ashamed to call myself a "cyber-athlete"... i would be so embarassed if i had to refer to myself as that
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 21:18:45
February 07 2010 21:18 GMT
#13
On February 08 2010 06:01 Sauron wrote:
This blog's title is misleading

Notice the picture when you first open the blog :3

On February 08 2010 06:04 LordWeird wrote:
Also might want to note that a safety is especially bad because not only does the other team get points, they get the ball afterward as opposed to a normal score which gives the ball to the defense.

Yeah I almost mentioned this then decided to leave it out. Good point.

On February 08 2010 06:13 OMin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 05:50 QuickStriker wrote:
On February 08 2010 05:30 Megalisk wrote:
On February 08 2010 05:27 Neivler wrote:
U read ma blog?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111768


Hahaha so many people are clueless..guess it really is mainly an American sport..

And to make note of that, not everyone in America even watches it either. Though it still grabs SO MUCH attention in US that it's crazy, similar to how "Professional Starcraft" can only be a Korean sport.... (despite the fact that it was made by Blizzard which is American...)


starcraft is not a sport.... it is competitive but in no shape or form is it excercise. seriously, if i were a progamer id be ashamed to call myself a "cyber-athlete"... i would be so embarassed if i had to refer to myself as that

You seem to be representing your opinion of what a sport is as fact...
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
February 07 2010 21:21 GMT
#14
What a let down Giants, WHY DID YOU SHOOT YOURSELF BURRESS!
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
February 07 2010 21:35 GMT
#15
You could just read Eyeshield 21 to figure out the rules. A much more fun way, though it's a bit time consuming.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
February 07 2010 21:35 GMT
#16
On February 08 2010 06:35 neobowman wrote:
You could just read Eyeshield 21 to figure out the rules. A much more fun way, though it's a bit time consuming.

Eyeshield is so misleading until later on in the series hahaha
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Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
February 07 2010 21:52 GMT
#17
GOGO SUPA BOWL! 20 min left!!
I pwn noobs
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
February 07 2010 21:59 GMT
#18
On February 08 2010 06:21 Disregard wrote:
What a let down Giants, WHY DID YOU SHOOT YOURSELF BURRESS!


The best part is that he plead not guilty
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keepITup
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
251 Posts
February 07 2010 22:06 GMT
#19
On February 08 2010 06:13 OMin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 05:50 QuickStriker wrote:
On February 08 2010 05:30 Megalisk wrote:
On February 08 2010 05:27 Neivler wrote:
U read ma blog?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111768


Hahaha so many people are clueless..guess it really is mainly an American sport..

And to make note of that, not everyone in America even watches it either. Though it still grabs SO MUCH attention in US that it's crazy, similar to how "Professional Starcraft" can only be a Korean sport.... (despite the fact that it was made by Blizzard which is American...)


starcraft is not a sport.... it is competitive but in no shape or form is it excercise. seriously, if i were a progamer id be ashamed to call myself a "cyber-athlete"... i would be so embarassed if i had to refer to myself as that


Everyone has their own standards for what defines a "sport."

Shooting is in the olympics, and I burn more calories making myself a bowl of cereal in the morning than the "athletes" in that sport do.

Am I going to diss the players and say they should be embarrassed to call them selves Olympic athletes?

No. Because I can actually respect the fact that they are extremely talented individuals and it's fun to watch them preform in competition.

Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
February 07 2010 22:25 GMT
#20
Wait, is only the quarterback allowed to throw the ball forward?
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
February 07 2010 22:28 GMT
#21
yeah, when he is behind the line of scrimmage. everyone can throw sideways/backwards regardless of where they are, which is called a lateral (also called a backwards pass)
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Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
February 07 2010 22:32 GMT
#22
Hmm ok then I finally understand why the quarterback is "kind of more important" then other players.
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
February 07 2010 22:33 GMT
#23
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
February 07 2010 22:34 GMT
#24
@Intr3pid: Anyone can throw a forward pass from behind the line of scrimmage afaik.

You just hardly ever see anyone but a QB do it for various reasons all adding up to it being less effective unless you catch the defense off guard.
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Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
February 07 2010 22:35 GMT
#25
Well apart from the obviously misleading name I slowly get to understand why the sport is so popular in the US.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 07 2010 22:39 GMT
#26
Anyone can take the ball at the beginning of the play. Quarterback is just the name of the position of the person who generally gets/throws the ball. The center can hike directly to the running back if he wanted to, but generally you hike to the quarterback who either hands it off for a run or throws it forwards. There have been famous plays where a quarterback hands off the ball to the running back, who would then throw it forward (confusing the defense).
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 07 2010 22:44 GMT
#27
hey you forgot to mention 2 point conversions
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 07 2010 22:46 GMT
#28
Thanks greatly for this...
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 22:50:26
February 07 2010 22:49 GMT
#29
On February 08 2010 07:33 Phrujbaz wrote:
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Even though this pic is trying to be funny, it's stupid. In football you often do kick the ball, but besides that the game is entirely about running yards and pushing forward on a field (with your feet ofc).
You have to stay on your feet or the play is stopped. hence, football.

Another stupid thing about that picture is that baseball is based on the fact that you try and score bases to win, Basketball you try and score baskets to win, so if NFL were to follow in the steps of these other 'american' sports then it would be more likely called goalball/touchdown ball or something else that doesn't sound right. Goalball would make more sense for soccer than NFL would.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
February 07 2010 22:51 GMT
#30
On February 08 2010 07:49 CharlieMurphy wrote:
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On February 08 2010 07:33 Phrujbaz wrote:
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Even though this pic is trying to be funny, it's stupid. In football you often do kick the ball, but besides that the game is entirely about running yards and pushing forward on a field (with your feet ofc).
You have to stay on your feet or the play is stopped. hence, football.

Another stupid thing about that picture is that baseball is based on the fact that you try and score bases to win, Basketball you try and score baskets to win, so if NFL were to follow in the steps of these other 'american' sports then it would be more likely called goalball/touchdown ball or something else that doesn't sound right. Goalball would make more sense for soccer than NFL would.

still should've made up another name for it instead of taking the name of a totally different sport that already exists.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
February 07 2010 22:55 GMT
#31
On February 08 2010 07:51 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 07:49 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On February 08 2010 07:33 Phrujbaz wrote:
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Even though this pic is trying to be funny, it's stupid. In football you often do kick the ball, but besides that the game is entirely about running yards and pushing forward on a field (with your feet ofc).
You have to stay on your feet or the play is stopped. hence, football.

Another stupid thing about that picture is that baseball is based on the fact that you try and score bases to win, Basketball you try and score baskets to win, so if NFL were to follow in the steps of these other 'american' sports then it would be more likely called goalball/touchdown ball or something else that doesn't sound right. Goalball would make more sense for soccer than NFL would.

still should've made up another name for it instead of taking the name of a totally different sport that already exists.

Well the game is made in the US and in the US it's not football its soccer. So while ideally it should be named something else it's not too bad
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 22:59:03
February 07 2010 22:56 GMT
#32
On February 08 2010 07:51 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 07:49 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On February 08 2010 07:33 Phrujbaz wrote:
[image loading]



Even though this pic is trying to be funny, it's stupid. In football you often do kick the ball, but besides that the game is entirely about running yards and pushing forward on a field (with your feet ofc).
You have to stay on your feet or the play is stopped. hence, football.

Another stupid thing about that picture is that baseball is based on the fact that you try and score bases to win, Basketball you try and score baskets to win, so if NFL were to follow in the steps of these other 'american' sports then it would be more likely called goalball/touchdown ball or something else that doesn't sound right. Goalball would make more sense for soccer than NFL would.

still should've made up another name for it instead of taking the name of a totally different sport that already exists.



No you got it wrong, see the 2 sports were created/invented around the same time (late 1800s) and both of the sports were not in their current form at the time of creation (or name). So YOu can't say NFL stole the name of Soccer.

foosball,kickball,handball, rugby, etc.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
February 07 2010 22:58 GMT
#33
As for positions, they work as follows:
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Blue is offense, while red is defense.

Offense:

OT, OG, C / Offensive Tackle, Guard, Centre: These form the "offensive line" who's job it is to keep anyone from getting to the quarterback. In addition, the Centre starts with the ball, and passes it to the quarterback at the start of a play.

TE / Tight End: Usually a receiver who performs short (under 10 yard) pass plays.

WR / Wide Receiver: They run forward along different routes to be passed to by the QB.

QB / Quarterback: The 'general', he handles the ball, passing it to receivers or handing it to running backs, also relates plays to his offense. Generally the biggest stars on a team (Peyton Manning, Tom Brady)

FB / Full back: A running back who mainly does short (1-2 yard) running plays, is generally bigger then the running back, and otherwise blocks for the quarter back.

TB / Tail back (Running back): When opting for a running play, he is the one to do it. May also fake runs, or block.

Defense:

DE, DL / Defensive End, Defensive Lineman: They form the 'defensive line' who's job it is to tackle the quarterback, or the running back if he has the ball.

CB / Corner back: It is his job to watch the Wide Receivers, and make sure they are covered and can't catch the ball if it is thrown to them.

LB / Line backer: They have multiple jobs, from watching for running plays, covering Tight Ends or Receivers, or 'blitzing', in which they run after the quarterback along with the defensive line, while sacrificing a rear defense.

FS / Free Safety: As the name implies, he is a 'free' man that usually acts as a last line of defense in case the offense gets through everyone else. He can also aid the CBs in watching deep receivers.

SS / Strong Safety: Usually used as a combination LB/CB, he can both watch receivers with the conerbacks, cover for a linebacker who blitzed, watch a tight end or even blitz himself.
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Wotans_Fire
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom294 Posts
February 07 2010 23:02 GMT
#34
That's almost every sport you're describing there might as well call it legball or something. I don't understand the attraction of watching American Football it seems to be almost entirely physical and little skill except the quarterback, seems you either need speed or mass. Also the fact that they are constantly bending over in tight silk pants puts me off.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 00:20:25
February 07 2010 23:47 GMT
#35
On February 08 2010 07:49 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 07:33 Phrujbaz wrote:
[image loading]



Even though this pic is trying to be funny, it's stupid. In football you often do kick the ball, but besides that the game is entirely about running yards and pushing forward on a field (with your feet ofc).
You have to stay on your feet or the play is stopped. hence, football.

Another stupid thing about that picture is that baseball is based on the fact that you try and score bases to win, Basketball you try and score baskets to win, so if NFL were to follow in the steps of these other 'american' sports then it would be more likely called goalball/touchdown ball or something else that doesn't sound right. Goalball would make more sense for soccer than NFL would.


Since I wanted to post this obligatory non-US pic and I can't I am now bound to elaborate on your statement.


In handegg you often do kick the egg


It's not a ball...


baseball
basketball


They're still using a ball...

Now, what would be the etymology of soccer? So that you wear socks? You do that in most sport disciplines...

Now, when you look for the etymology of football, the first reference you find is medieval Europe. Older = calls the dibs on the name first = we win!

Not to mention that American football (as it should be called) is closer related to another game called Rugby (basically, it's all the same but with armour which makes it less manly).

Edit:

Not to mention the difference in the rules (Rugby is a hard game for hard men)




Rugby final vs superbowl to watch on tv right now... So hard to choose...

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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 23:59:21
February 07 2010 23:51 GMT
#36
lol soccer is the gayest sport, pretty sure if NFL players took off their pads people would be ruined for life or dead very often. These guys almost always retire with chronic injuries and their life expectancies are far lower than average people even thought they are physically in better shape/healthier (aside from injuries) than people.

and yes it is a ball, just because it's an oval shaped ball and not a sphere doesn't mean it's not a ball.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 00:16:57
February 08 2010 00:14 GMT
#37
the blog reminds me of this



Dont get me wrong thou, the video makes a pretty good summery why the colonials love "football" and cant get the concept of the "soccer"
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Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
February 08 2010 00:16 GMT
#38
Still, why not call it American Rugby instead of Football? It was originally derived from Rugby and it has a lot more to do with that sport then Football/Soccer.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
February 08 2010 00:27 GMT
#39
On February 08 2010 08:51 CharlieMurphy wrote:
lol soccer is the gayest sport, pretty sure if NFL players took off their pads people would be ruined for life or dead very often. These guys almost always retire with chronic injuries and their life expectancies are far lower than average people even thought they are physically in better shape/healthier (aside from injuries) than people.

and yes it is a ball, just because it's an oval shaped ball and not a sphere doesn't mean it's not a ball.


average life expectancies of ice hockey players : 73.9
average life expectancies of chess players: 62,9

speaking of gay sports...
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
February 08 2010 00:58 GMT
#40
Won q1 with 0-0 but just missed the second!
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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
February 08 2010 01:30 GMT
#41
On February 08 2010 09:27 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 08:51 CharlieMurphy wrote:
lol soccer is the gayest sport, pretty sure if NFL players took off their pads people would be ruined for life or dead very often. These guys almost always retire with chronic injuries and their life expectancies are far lower than average people even thought they are physically in better shape/healthier (aside from injuries) than people.

and yes it is a ball, just because it's an oval shaped ball and not a sphere doesn't mean it's not a ball.


average life expectancies of ice hockey players : 73.9
average life expectancies of chess players: 62,9

speaking of gay sports...


isn't american football without all the equipment the thing we call rugby over here?

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unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
February 08 2010 02:02 GMT
#42
American football is the pussy sport where every player has to over guard themselves with big cups of plastic protecting every limb and bone where as rugby it's you and the ball NO plastic NO helmets NO nothing... I'm afraid you sir above me are mistaken badly
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 02:39:05
February 08 2010 02:18 GMT
#43
some people need to learn how to read.

Studies in the United States show that men who play five or more years in the NFL have a life expectancy of 55, 20 years less than the average in the general public. For linemen, perhaps due to their size, the life expectancy is 52.


Rugby players in comparison live 10 years less than normal people (so about 65)


PS- Rugby and NFL are so different. Rugby is more like contact soccer with your hands.
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Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
February 08 2010 02:21 GMT
#44
On February 08 2010 11:18 CharlieMurphy wrote:
some people need to learn how to read.

Show nested quote +
Studies in the United States show that men who play five or more years in the NFL have a life expectancy of 55, 20 years less than the average in the general public. For linemen, perhaps due to their size, the life expectancy is 52.


That is fucking terrifying. You got a link to the studies?
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 08 2010 02:37 GMT
#45
just google it
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Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
February 08 2010 02:38 GMT
#46
Who the fuck cares what it's named or which sport is the "manliest"

you play starcraft, just watch the game of your choice and let others watch theirs

i swear, anonymity makes everyone into tools
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
February 08 2010 02:48 GMT
#47
SAINTS WIN 31-17
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JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
February 08 2010 02:55 GMT
#48
woot, won some money! go saints
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 08 2010 02:55 GMT
#49
God Americans are so pushy when it comes to their sports. A sport being 'tough' doesn't make it good. If you ever talk to an american about soccer being a better sport, they say, soccer is for pussies, we tackle.
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sassy
Profile Joined December 2009
240 Posts
February 08 2010 03:00 GMT
#50
glad they won, i couldnt handle watching people lick mannings anus

most emotions i ever got out of football was obviously 2007 superbowl

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giants had to fuck up the greatest run in NFL history

fuck my life
sassy
Profile Joined December 2009
240 Posts
February 08 2010 03:08 GMT
#51
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8147c551/Sound-FX-Matthew-Stafford-mic-d-up

this was posted in 2009 thread but i think its good video for the ones who doesnt understand why football is exciting
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
February 08 2010 03:13 GMT
#52
On February 08 2010 11:55 HazMat wrote:
God Americans are so pushy when it comes to their sports. A sport being 'tough' doesn't make it good. If you ever talk to an american about soccer being a better sport, they say, soccer is for pussies, we tackle.

Americans? Which people spoke for all Americans? My observation is that only some Americans are like this.... aren't some soccer fans equally miserable?
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 03:17:49
February 08 2010 03:16 GMT
#53
On February 08 2010 11:55 HazMat wrote:
God Americans are so pushy when it comes to their sports. A sport being 'tough' doesn't make it good. If you ever talk to an american about soccer being a better sport, they say, soccer is for pussies, we tackle.

it was 'you guys' who started it. so don't blame me or my people.

btw soccer is weak
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
February 08 2010 03:32 GMT
#54
On February 08 2010 12:16 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 11:55 HazMat wrote:
God Americans are so pushy when it comes to their sports. A sport being 'tough' doesn't make it good. If you ever talk to an american about soccer being a better sport, they say, soccer is for pussies, we tackle.

it was 'you guys' who started it. so don't blame me or my people.

btw soccer is weak

Stop fake-trolling in my blog.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
February 08 2010 03:48 GMT
#55
I think the problem is that American football is actually, or at least in my opinion, quite complicated. There are a few different ways to score, and the score you get varies from method to method.

For the sake of comparison, think about soccer and hockey. They are relatively simple and you get one point for getting your ball/bucket into the other team's nest.
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Sauron
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania169 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 04:05:15
February 08 2010 03:55 GMT
#56
On February 08 2010 12:48 illu wrote:
I think the problem is that American football is actually, or at least in my opinion, quite complicated. There are a few different ways to score, and the score you get varies from method to method.

For the sake of comparison, think about soccer and hockey. They are relatively simple and you get one point for getting your ball/bucket into the other team's nest.


For the sake of comparison, think about Starcraft. It is relatively simple and you get one win for getting the opponent to write gg before you.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 04:36:22
February 08 2010 04:14 GMT
#57
Futbol (soccer) is a beautiful sport, there's no reason to be insulting it. It's not tough like rugby or football or hockey, but it's not trying to be.

As for comparing football and rugby, the argument that rugby or Aussie rules are football without pads is bogus. Aside from the fact that most NFL players are better/stronger/bigger athletes (and they are much bigger, and NOT fatter), the games work differently. Most tackles in rugby are true tackles, at low speeds because there's not much distant to accelerate. Tackles in football are violent collisions, where people can essentially dive at each other, and the helmets actually make the problem worse. Football helmets are very dangerous and very hard.

Watching it on a TV, it's difficult to comprehend just how big NFL players are. Dhani Jones went to workout with Blackheath in London, and he's a lower level player in the NFL now. He's smaller than anyone on a line and he's not fast anymore. But he was the biggest and fastest player on the pitch.

It used to be played without pads around the turn of the century, and at that point is was a much slower game. In 1909, 33 people died playing college football (not that many teams were playing at that point) and 76 were seriously injured. President Theodore Roosevelt is actually the one who forced the game to make reforms with rules and padding, or else he would try to ban the game. Theodore Roosevelt was definitely a tough guy.



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GoregAsm
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7 Posts
February 08 2010 04:21 GMT
#58
On February 08 2010 12:55 Sauron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 12:48 illu wrote:
I think the problem is that American football is actually, or at least in my opinion, quite complicated. There are a few different ways to score, and the score you get varies from method to method.

For the sake of comparison, think about soccer and hockey. They are relatively simple and you get one point for getting your ball/bucket into the other team's nest.


For the sake of comparison, think about Starcraft. It is relatively simple and you get one win for getting the opponent to write gg before you.




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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 08 2010 04:41 GMT
#59
Can we keep the "my sport is better than your sport" or "my sport is tougher/more physical than your sport" stuff out of this thread? The OP isn't pushing any of this bullshit and there's no reason to respond with anything along these lines.

Just broaden your horizons a little and try to understand why other people enjoy a sport. Soccer is an amazing sport once you learn to appreciate it and personally it took me a while to do so. Unfortunately many Americans don't want to take the time to understand the game so they don't appreciate it the same way the rest of the world does.

Does anyone want to explain rugby to me? It looks interesting and shares a lot of characteristics with football, which I also enjoy, but I understand nothing about the rules of the game.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 04:48:05
February 08 2010 04:46 GMT
#60


It also doesn't help that videos like that come out and the violence is heavily promoted by ESPN. Not only are those big layout tackles dangerous, but they're also less accurate and lead to more missed tackles, instead of the sure tackle by driving through someone.

Time Magazine just did an article about brain damage from football. The gist was basically that playing football, even at the middle school/high school level leads to serious brain damage. It's extremely barbaric, yet we love to watch it. o.o
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
February 08 2010 04:56 GMT
#61
Hey, thanks Micronesia.

I ended up in fact watching the Super Bowl tonight. I didn't think I would, but read your guide nonetheless, because I have gotten somewhat curious in my 20 some years of being an American. I found your guide to be immensely helpful while watching the game.

Btw, anyone know why it's called the super bowl? I guess what I'm asking is why are these big tournament games called bowls? It's not like the Stanley Cup where it's an actual cup, right? They're not winning a bowl... Is it because the stadium is shaped like a bowl?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:07:06
February 08 2010 05:06 GMT
#62
Yep. Bowl games started in college football because of the bowl shape, and when the NFL was created they decided to call it that. Nothing really special about it.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
February 08 2010 05:27 GMT
#63
On February 08 2010 13:56 thopol wrote:
Hey, thanks Micronesia.

I ended up in fact watching the Super Bowl tonight. I didn't think I would, but read your guide nonetheless, because I have gotten somewhat curious in my 20 some years of being an American. I found your guide to be immensely helpful while watching the game.

Awesome. I love successes like these.
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Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 08 2010 06:53 GMT
#64
commercials were sub par this super bowl
;)))))))))
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 08 2010 09:41 GMT
#65
fuck commercials
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 12:35:50
February 08 2010 12:27 GMT
#66
On February 08 2010 13:46 Jibba wrote:
It also doesn't help that videos like that come out and the violence is heavily promoted by ESPN. Not only are those big layout tackles dangerous, but they're also less accurate and lead to more missed tackles, instead of the sure tackle by driving through someone.

Time Magazine just did an article about brain damage from football. The gist was basically that playing football, even at the middle school/high school level leads to serious brain damage. It's extremely barbaric, yet we love to watch it. o.o


it's a gladiatorial thing

you know, romans n shiit

I'm also not a big fan of football (hoops is my game) till I came across scott fujita in my multiethnic self-studies, thought I give it a shot, and it was pretty cool. you really gotta identify with it to love it, that's why it's almost a religion in rural places where the footballers are heroes

LA's too big a city and we don't have foot traffic like NY, and no football team here, so when the Lakers win the championship the celebration's pretty muffled and no big block parties or whatever...
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
February 08 2010 20:31 GMT
#67
nice to have it although i think the league just ended right?

i never understood this game. will give it a shot next time it's on espn
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Clamev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany498 Posts
February 08 2010 20:33 GMT
#68
This is not Football it´s . . .
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
February 08 2010 20:51 GMT
#69
On February 09 2010 05:33 Clamev wrote:
This is not Football it´s . . .
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Uh that was already posted...

._.
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
February 09 2010 01:34 GMT
#70
On February 08 2010 07:49 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Goalball would make more sense for soccer than NFL would.


Let me get this straight. You are saying that a game in which you hit the ball with your foot 90% of the time, and aren't even ALLOWED to touch it with your hands, makes less sense to be called football than a game where only 2 people on either team EVER touch the ball with their foot?

Your random logic for the method of sport appellation in America also holds no weight in England, from which the game football comes. We name games not after the method of scoring (bases, baskets), rather after actions or placenames. Or occasionally completely bizarre and arbitrary names like Ping Pong; which apparently according to Wikipedia was called Wiff-Waff back in the day.

You must be a debater or stoned, because to construct an argument as shaky as the one you did requires either a seriously argumentative brain, or heroine.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 09 2010 02:42 GMT
#71
sc4k, meet CharlieMurphy.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
February 09 2010 03:18 GMT
#72
Look, you can debate the name all you want, it's called football in the US and there is zero chance of you getting the entire country to stop calling the sport football so it doesn't even matter if the name makes sense. I agree it doesn't, but language exists so you can communicate so you have to call it what everyone else does or you're missing the point of language.
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Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
February 09 2010 04:21 GMT
#73
I never realised how much gridiron was based off rugby. It makes a bit more sense now. So American football seems me to be more explosive strength where rugby is more about overall continuous fitness. Still the games are quite different. I'd rather watch rugby anyday. I'm not a big fan of having all these breaks between play.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 04:47:42
February 09 2010 04:36 GMT
#74
On February 09 2010 13:21 Ludrik wrote:
I never realised how much gridiron was based off rugby. It makes a bit more sense now. So American football seems me to be more explosive strength where rugby is more about overall continuous fitness. Still the games are quite different.
I think that's a fair way to put it. The type of weight lifting they do is largely built around explosive power and many of the speed position players were former sprinters in highschool and college.

For some reason, NFL football doesn't draw me as much as college football does. I think part of it is because the atmosphere is so much better at college games so the breaks aren't as annoying, and the game is a lot more emotional and unpredictable when 20 year olds are playing it.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
February 09 2010 05:08 GMT
#75
On February 09 2010 13:36 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2010 13:21 Ludrik wrote:
I never realised how much gridiron was based off rugby. It makes a bit more sense now. So American football seems me to be more explosive strength where rugby is more about overall continuous fitness. Still the games are quite different.
I think that's a fair way to put it. The type of weight lifting they do is largely built around explosive power and many of the speed position players were former sprinters in highschool and college.

For some reason, NFL football doesn't draw me as much as college football does. I think part of it is because the atmosphere is so much better at college games so the breaks aren't as annoying, and the game is a lot more emotional and unpredictable when 20 year olds are playing it.

Agree about college ball.. and also for basketball.
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RaiSad
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States325 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 06:16:20
February 09 2010 06:16 GMT
#76
I started watching American football several months ago and I love it, especially college football. I watched a lot of bowls in winter break.

I know I love Gators and Longhorns in college football, but I still don't find any interesting team in NFL yet.
Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
February 09 2010 15:57 GMT
#77
It's called AMERICAN football for a reason
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iRRelevance
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania725 Posts
February 09 2010 19:29 GMT
#78
On February 08 2010 13:21 GoregAsm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 12:55 Sauron wrote:
On February 08 2010 12:48 illu wrote:
I think the problem is that American football is actually, or at least in my opinion, quite complicated. There are a few different ways to score, and the score you get varies from method to method.

For the sake of comparison, think about soccer and hockey. They are relatively simple and you get one point for getting your ball/bucket into the other team's nest.


For the sake of comparison, think about Starcraft. It is relatively simple and you get one win for getting the opponent to write gg before you.


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NotTheMonker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States131 Posts
September 20 2010 18:11 GMT
#79
Football season is here again, and here is a well-written explanation for those of you who may not understand American football.

Also, an awesome play from this weekend.
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
September 20 2010 19:53 GMT
#80
On September 21 2010 03:11 NotTheMonker wrote:
Football season is here again, and here is a well-written explanation for those of you who may not understand American football.

Also, an awesome play from this weekend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DyzASDVpwU

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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
September 20 2010 20:22 GMT
#81
Beating up on the vaunted Lion defense, the benchmark of a good quarterback. Yes!!

Those two games, without any exaggeration, are within the top 10 statistically of his career. Fact of the matter is, Vick is a career 76.8rated guy, whose current 63.8 completion% is almost a full 10% over his career average.

Fortunately, hyperbole is not just limited to Vick or even another media darlin', Favre. MARK FRANCHIZE hype is once again in full fucking swing (by Silver no less, who I used to love... now I'm gradually starting to dislike him):

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AnKfjWCs1vYtlyBJVtCrSzdDubYF?slug=ms-morningrush092010

YES! HE HAS ARRIVED!!! Never mind that for almost all of last season, Sanchez had one great play for every four terrible ones he did, or that he was statistically worse than JaMarcus Russell for most of last season. Or that one of the few games he did do well last year was against the Pats (and their overrated D). One game and NONE OF THAT MATTERS!
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