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On August 01 2009 10:23 Railxp wrote: curious: is there any vids/pics of January playing zerg back in the days? I'd be really curious to see what she looked like before =0
On August 01 2009 10:32 Marksman wrote: Alright, here's my 2 cents. Coach aren't only important to just provide mental support etc etc (like the previous before me said) They are also to perform the management duties in relation to the various aspects of the team (Shelter management, Cost planning, Transportation to and fro their destinations, representative of the team to their sponsors, dealing with a tourney's registration, procedures, in other words administrative duties which would tax a player <- which would definitely be given if there was no coach, THUS reducing practice time, increase stress levels and overall reduce performance.
Actually, that's what coaches(or more precisely managers) had basically been doing. And usually there's one manager on the team to take care of the business side, and coaches to take care of the playing side. January was the first manager to also be a hands-on coach. I think, but not sure since I'm not Korean, it's because Samsung doesn't really run its team like a pure business in a way that Finger Boom or T1 does. The team doesn't really buy players nor replace coaches. Kind of weird, considering that Samsung's the biggest company in Korea.
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Congrats january you did well in the playoffs with a slumping khan. Only if fbh won his game after gaining the lead against iris, khan would be in the semis. ARRGH!
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i'd be shitscared to marry a starcraft team coach... Her demands on your apm would be terrifying.
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January is a hero for all Khan fans! She leads us to victory after victory!
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On July 31 2009 16:28 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 15:17 d(O.o)a wrote:January remains one of the most successful coaches in eSports, and is notable for being by far the most successful coach with an actual playing background. Question about this, wouldn't that person be iloveoov? He's not the head coach. It's like the difference between a manager and the pitching coach in baseball. January is the head honcho, while oov is just one of the coaches. And even if you do consider oov to be the head coach of T1, his resume doesn't even come close to January's. She basically BUILT the entire Samsung team. She was I believe the first coach to concentrate on the playing side as opposed to the business side. And it was genius move to focus on 2v2 to make up for their lack of star players. I know these days people automatically think Stork/FBH/Jangbi when it comes to Khan. But for quite a while, they were really lacking top ace players before Stork's emergence. Anyway, it's safe to say she is the image of Samsung Khan. Ah, good ol' times when Khan won all their PL games thanks to 2v2 and SKT lost all of them for the same reason. ... Well, not so good times actually.
Congrats to January anyway ~
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damn, january use to be hot...she should go back to being a brunette
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+ Show Spoiler +i'd be shitscared to marry a starcraft team coach... Her demands on your apm would be terrifying. LOL But congratz to her anyways.
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then all that pelvic thrusting will have came in handy =P
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true baubo :D. Just listing additional information into the discussion hehe. But don't coaches need to represent the team to the managers, so its almost the same only just a difference in scale? ><.
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On August 01 2009 13:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: damn, january use to be hot...she should go back to being a brunette
really? I think she looks better now...
but then again I'm a sucker for black hair
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On August 01 2009 16:19 Sunyveil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2009 13:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: damn, january use to be hot...she should go back to being a brunette really? I think she looks better now... but then again I'm a sucker for black hair Yeah, I find her very very attractive too, and better than before.
Congrats .
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*Super Smash Brothers Announcer* : CONGRATULATIONS.
Have fun with the guy, January.
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I'd like to put in a few low-post-count comments to counteract my low-post-count colleague.
The progaming environment is very much like any other competitive environment. In such an environment, a player's mind is always reeling at lightspeed - especially if they are 'doing well'. And I'm not talking about during a game. I'm talking about when they wake up in the morning, before they go to sleep at night, while they're eating, even while they are 'taking a break', their mind is flooding itself with statements, ideas, and questions.
"What happened in that one game a few weeks ago? Was that just a fluke? I know I'm a better player than X_insert_X. Then why did they gain the upper hand? Am I getting off my game? My recent performances have been my A-game, though. At least, I think. Am I sliding off my prime?" This is the competitor's constant curse. Just like some players tilt in the short-term after e.g. a gas steal, some players (especially the 'best' players) are at risk of tilting in the long-term.
Part of the reason good competitors are good is that their minds are filled with doubt. "Can someone beat this strategy if I don't time it properly? Maybe I should give it a try." Doubt and questioning oneself are good tools for self-improvement, but in an uncontrolled or unfocused environment, they can also lead a player to spiral out of control to a low point. Competitors that are very good at their craft often end up sliding out of excellence because they slowly lose the ability to find their mistakes.
For example, you could watch a replay of a game you narrowly lost (or so you think). You could spot several points of interest. Two places where you misclicked. A time where you built a worker several seconds late. A point where your units weren't properly rallied. You can fix all these mistakes - these are minor things. If these things were corrected, you could have won the battle. But that is all an illusion sometimes. Sometimes you get dominated without even knowing. You are put under so much pressure that cracks develop in your play that were never there before.
All these places are where coaches come in. Sure, you could beat the shit out of your coach even on your worst offrace. Your coach doesn't understand the intricacies and subtleties of the masterful execution you display. Even if they played in the past, you are many times better than they ever were. But they can see things that you can't see as well. They can see patterns that you would never notice. They can see in the morning that you are brooding over your breakfast. They can see at night when you just can't quite get comfortable. And they can see on the stage when you start to crack. They can identify all these things for you. Most importantly, they can HELP you stop this before it even starts.
When a player breaks down and starts seeing mistakes in their play, what do they do? They are at the supposed top of their game. They are masters of their craft. There's always room for improvement, but that's in the forward direction. They are making mistakes in the backward direction. So what do they do? They look back. They look back to fundamentals - and they've already lost at that point. They've already doubted that they are masters. They've already started to blame themselves, their bodies, their focus, their environment - but really it's just the situation they are in. This is where coaches come in.
A competitor's mind is always reeling, and it's the job of the coach to control this reeling - to keep it in check. A good coach knows that the key to getting a player to play his best is to make him learn everything and then forget it all and just play. By doing this, there isn't any active thinking, at least any unnecessary thinking. They know what to do 'by instinct'. But when they make mistakes, it makes them start thinking again, and this is when they doubt their 'instinct'. Sometimes they try to go back and 'relearn' it all, but at that point it's too late. A wise coach will play off a mistake as a fluke, and their player will trust them enough to forget about it and just play the game. If mistakes keep cropping up, the coach will know what the problem is (being very close to the player) and will kill it before it happens.
The point of this all is that a great player cannot survive without a coach. The better the player, the better the coach he needs to keep him on top - and it's extremely hard for both people involved. When you are invincible, you are incredibly vulnerable to being toppled - just look at sAviOr. I'm not blaming the coach for sAviOr's downfall. The more invincible you are, the more impossible it is to live up to your own invincibility. The Maestro seemed like everyone to be an undefeatable monster who occasionally showed signs of mortal weakness, but you can bet the farm that he breathes easier now than he did in his golden days.
To sum up:
Competitive environments are tough. They are tough on your mind, body, and emotions. When you are at your best, it makes it that much easier for someone to snap your Achilles heel. Coaches are there to keep you in line. They are there to keep you focused and direct you in doing your best. They are there to inject constructive doubt and remove harmful doubt. They are there to enable great players. Without them, we would have far fewer great players, and a less interesting progaming scene.
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On July 31 2009 14:58 DreaM)XeRO wrote:99.9% of TL is
hahaha XD
Anyway, congratulations January!
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January's wedding photos are up. I'm personally quite surprised how casually everyone dressed. The one wedding I went to, everyone pretty much had suits on.
Apparently no one cares about the groom in the picture. LOL
Stork: Taking a break from his One Piece viewing session.
Jangbi's always a pimp
Firebathero's so sad. Perhaps the reason for his slump? He needs a slumpbuster asap.
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Four of the pictures aren't loading for me. Also who is the groom? Is it the guy to January's left that is being blocked? You can barely see him!
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That picture of FBH with the dog is so epic like omg
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On August 23 2009 13:11 Sprite wrote: That picture of FBH with the dog is so epic like omg
showing compassion with kespa
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Nice pictures; but three of them aren't working for me...
And is the groom the guy on the couch next to January...with his face half obscured by someone else? It'd be nice to actually have a decent picture of him.
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