YellOw was impatient, he had a great advantage, shoulda retreated to Sunkens and waited for Lurkers before confronting with Hydras, he totally had that D:
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
YellOw was impatient, he had a great advantage, shoulda retreated to Sunkens and waited for Lurkers before confronting with Hydras, he totally had that D: | ||
DoubIe_O
Austria234 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5063 Posts
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PeAcY6969
France621 Posts
Yellow lost 6 lurkers with 2 storm :/ | ||
Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
On July 07 2009 21:00 Itachii wrote: you've got no arguments, so you just say that i dont understand the matchup.great way to discuss there bud. how about you stay quiet if you dont know what you are talking about, or bring me some examples when stork has shown better PvZ than the guys i mentioned. You don't understand the game so what arguments would help you? Stork has a very different style from for example Kal, true in some nights it might be worse, but he will always bring a solid game, and much like Flash he will beat average progamers (like yellow today) with ease. Much has never been a good PvZ player, this i can back up with a serious winning record against him. Jangbi was a better PvZ player then stork 1 year ago, no doubts. Now Jangbi is slumping so hard its depressing. Kal hasnt been "that" good for at least a year. Free isn't, hasn't and will never be a top player. You call me clueless, yet unlike you i have played against most of the players we are discussing in the same matchup. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Khan secures a playoff spot, nice job! Also Gorush played an inspired game <3 + Show Spoiler + also Hwasung loses, guaranteeing 1st place for T1. Great match day | ||
deathgod6
United States5063 Posts
On July 07 2009 21:06 Carnac wrote: STORKU Khan secures a playoff spot, nice job! Also Gorush played an inspired game <3 + Show Spoiler + also Hwasung loses, guaranteeing 1st place for T1. Great match day + Show Spoiler + Oh yeah. Rejoice SKT fans! | ||
TommyG
United States102 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On July 07 2009 21:06 Dealer wrote: You don't understand the game so what arguments would help you? Stork has a very different style from for example Kal, true in some nights it might be worse, but he will always bring a solid game, and much like Flash he will beat average progamers (like yellow today) with ease. Much has never been a good PvZ player, this i can back up with a serious winning record against him. Jangbi was a better PvZ player then stork 1 year ago, no doubts. Now Jangbi is slumping so hard its depressing. Kal hasnt been "that" good for at least a year. Free isn't, hasn't and will never be a top player. You call me clueless, yet unlike you i have played against most of the players we are discussing in the same matchup. I think the problem most people have with Stork's PvZ is just it looks so ugly. That, and he's really inconsistent in the matchup. He'd beat Jaedong and July only to lose to type-b and Kwanro. I do agree that Stork's PvZ is quite good though. As long as he actually prepared and isn't playing half-assed. | ||
theKOT
United States167 Posts
I maintain my position that FBH's victory echoed through the remaining matches leaving Ace unable to win. Oh FBH, when you tvt it's actually interesting. Ok enough fanboydribble. Khan is an interesting team in the playoffs in that FBH and Stork and Jangbi are total unknowns right now, and great has been ok. This team is unpredictable and dangerous. | ||
Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
On July 07 2009 21:22 baubo wrote: Wow, that was kind of close series, much more so than I expected. But man Yellow's ZvP game sense is just bad. Suicided his entire army piece-meal into Stork's ball. I think the problem most people have with Stork's PvZ is just it looks so ugly. That, and he's really inconsistent in the matchup. He'd beat Jaedong and July only to lose to type-b and Kwanro. I do agree that Stork's PvZ is quite good though. As long as he actually prepared and isn't playing half-assed. Well, what most of the fanboys here seem to close their eyes about is that the other mentioned players do that as well.. Free beat jaedong, sure. He also lost 1-2 to Jihyun. Much hasn't won against a top zerg since in 9 months. Stork does above average in the late-game, he's got quite good army control which is what's important. He lacks the flair of Nal_rA and he lacks the killer instinct of Jaedong but he's nonetheless no doubt top5 PvZ and top3 Protoss overall - even when he's not in top shape. | ||
Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On July 07 2009 21:06 Dealer wrote: Jangbi was a better PvZ player then stork 1 year ago, no doubts. Now Jangbi is slumping so hard its depressing. It's not depressing, it's making happy. | ||
baubo
China3370 Posts
On July 07 2009 21:32 Dealer wrote: Well, what most of the fanboys here seem to close their eyes about is that the other mentioned players do that as well.. Free beat jaedong, sure. He also lost 1-2 to Jihyun. Much hasn't won against a top zerg since in 9 months. Stork does above average in the late-game, he's got quite good army control which is what's important. He lacks the flair of Nal_rA and he lacks the killer instinct of Jaedong but he's nonetheless no doubt top5 PvZ and top3 Protoss overall - even when he's not in top shape. I guess you're right. I never really thought about how bad the other dragons are doing these days. But indeed no one's doing well PvZ these days besides Bisu. I guess it's because I follow Khan, and Stork is my favorite player in general, makes me more aware of his shortcomings in the matchup more than usual. But in the grand scheme of things, it's not like other protosses don't have these problems too. And Stork's PvZ style, "macro -> fast 3rd", is probably the most boring style of PvZ in existence. | ||
Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On July 07 2009 21:06 Dealer wrote: You don't understand the game so what arguments would help you? Stork has a very different style from for example Kal, true in some nights it might be worse, but he will always bring a solid game, and much like Flash he will beat average progamers (like yellow today) with ease. Much has never been a good PvZ player, this i can back up with a serious winning record against him. Jangbi was a better PvZ player then stork 1 year ago, no doubts. Now Jangbi is slumping so hard its depressing. Kal hasnt been "that" good for at least a year. Free isn't, hasn't and will never be a top player. You call me clueless, yet unlike you i have played against most of the players we are discussing in the same matchup. I agree, Stork's vs Z is decent, what do you expect from such experienced and acomplished player.But hes nowhere near as good as you make him look like vs zerg, at late game (that was the whole point of discussion, wasn't it?).His decision making is lacking a lot, thats why he drops games to avarages zergs so easily.What saves him is of course his macro, which enables him to run over most of these zergs, if they play all game long standard. And talking about top 5 is kinda pointless i think, you can distinguish best PvZer easily (Bisu of course) and maybe 2nd (Kal - as you said - hes not so hot lately as he used to be).But later it all gets tricky, since maps differ form each other so much and overall level is quite similar. And i wouldnt comment the match-up i dont know shit about, last season it was b- so its not like iam pulling this off from a hat.(holy shit brag) Once again, i started off with saying that Storks game sense vs zergs is bad, and then you called me clueless. Off to dinner. | ||
Balfazar
Australia483 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
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imDerek
United States1944 Posts
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Murdoink
Chile1219 Posts
yay for MANTOSS WINNING | ||
King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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