Asperger’s doesn’t exist anymore. If I recall the story correctly Dr Asperger was an Austrian doctor running a home for children with autism spectrum disorders and other issues. The Nazis took over Austria and demanded that he turn over all his patients for liquidation. He didn’t want all his kids to be murdered but he couldn’t stop them so after some quick thinking he came up with good autistic, which he called Asperger’s, and bad autistic. He talked them into thinking that good autistic was actually potentially valuable and wasn’t defective, just different, unlike bad autistic which had to be destroyed.

Problem was that he couldn’t tell them that all his patients were good autistic because they’d see through his bullshitting. But he didn’t want to be too conservative because every kid he didn’t claim had Asperger’s was going to be murdered. He had to find the sweet spot where the Nazis would believe in special autism. Must have been a tough spot to be in.

Anyway, Asperger’s is just Nazi friendly autism which actually lines up very nicely with Elon claiming to have it.

BlackJack

United States9995 Posts

November 20 2024 05:10 GMT

#442

My favorite thing about Tesla, at least in my area, is how the media loves to report on crashes involving Teslas. Every day there are headlines like "one injured after Tesla hits guard rail" or "occupant dead after Tesla crashes into tree."

It humors me to no end because I just think about how I never see a headline like "Toyota Camry crash injures 3" or "Honda Civic drives into lake killing occupant" It's either a Tesla crash or a "car" crash.

My favorite is Tesla Cybertruck involved in Bay Area crash

The story is that a 17-year old lost control of his Toyota Corolla, crossed over double yellow lines to the other side of the road and struck a Tesla Cybertruck causing minor damage to it. Pulitzer journalism right there.

Vivax

21681 Posts

23 hours ago

#443

It‘s Elonito Muskolini to you, mere mortals

Acrofales

Spain17701 Posts

14 hours ago

#444

On November 20 2024 14:10 BlackJack wrote:
My favorite thing about Tesla, at least in my area, is how the media loves to report on crashes involving Teslas. Every day there are headlines like "one injured after Tesla hits guard rail" or "occupant dead after Tesla crashes into tree."

It humors me to no end because I just think about how I never see a headline like "Toyota Camry crash injures 3" or "Honda Civic drives into lake killing occupant" It's either a Tesla crash or a "car" crash.

My favorite is Tesla Cybertruck involved in Bay Area crash

The story is that a 17-year old lost control of his Toyota Corolla, crossed over double yellow lines to the other side of the road and struck a Tesla Cybertruck causing minor damage to it. Pulitzer journalism right there.

I can't really comment on the quality of journalism over there in SF, and over here I don't see anything of the kind(honestly, single car drives into tree just seems below the level of interest of even the most local of local interest papers), but self-proclaimed self-driving cars crashing are obviously more interesting than humans crashing their cars. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen...

BlackJack

United States9995 Posts

14 hours ago

#445

On November 21 2024 06:54 Acrofales wrote:

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Yeah that’s kind of the point, in my opinion. Tesla is known as the one brand really pushing autonomous driving so the idea is to fear monger about it by hinting that these Tesla’s crashing are because the AIs are sending you into trees. At the very bottom of every article is the comment “the vehicle was not operating in autonomous mode at the time.” Or “it’s unknown whether the vehicle was in autonomous mode.” If it were in fact in autonomous mode they for sure would include it in the headline.

Magic Powers

Austria3355 Posts

13 hours ago

#446

Comparing Tesla to other autonomous cars reveals how lacking it is. Comparing it to regular cars is nonsensical.

Sermokala

United States13645 Posts

10 hours ago

#447

Teslas are known to disable FSD right before they get into a crash in order for them to legally claim that the vehicle was not in autonomous mode at the moment of the accident.

Magic Powers

Austria3355 Posts

8 hours ago

#448

I can't find any confirmation of that claim, but Tesla does in fact perform a lot worse than advertised. The fatality rate is reportedly higher than of several other (non-autonomous) brands.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tesla-cars-most-fatal-crashes-121218472.html

Second article is about complaints by Tesla drivers. Auto translate should do the trick.

https://www.shots.media/motor/2024/tesla-mit-gravierenden-sicherheitsmaengeln/110368

Turbovolver

Australia2339 Posts

6 hours ago

#449

On November 21 2024 13:22 Magic Powers wrote:
I can't find any confirmation of that claim, but Tesla does in fact perform a lot worse than advertised. The fatality rate is reportedly higher than of several other (non-autonomous) brands.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tesla-cars-most-fatal-crashes-121218472.html

Not really a big deal. Tesla was higher by being 5.6 (fatalities per billion miles) as compared to 5.5 for Kia.

Magic Powers

Austria3355 Posts

1 hour ago

#450

On November 21 2024 14:52 Turbovolver wrote:

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Not really a big deal. Tesla was higher by being 5.6 (fatalities per billion miles) as compared to 5.5 for Kia.

Autonomous vs non-autonomous, my friend. "Not a big deal"? Reality says otherwise. Hyundai has 3.9

BlackJack

United States9995 Posts

1 hour ago

#451

On November 21 2024 19:56 Magic Powers wrote:

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Autonomous vs non-autonomous, my friend. "Not a big deal"? Reality says otherwise. Hyundai has 3.9

Good lord... The article showing the fatality rate says it used data from 2017 to 2022. Tesla didn't even have a wide release for FSD until November of 2022 and even then only 2% of their drivers paid for it after the free trial. Not only have you provided zero evidence that Tesla's slightly higher fatality rate is related to autonomous driving but the timeline makes it an implausibility. You're a fedora-wearing conspiracy theorist with an Elon Musk hate-boner trying to connect dots that don't even make sense. But at least we found out who is the audience for the fearmongering news stories.

Magic Powers

Austria3355 Posts

31 minutes ago

#452

On November 21 2024 20:38 BlackJack wrote:

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All autonomous cars have a higher accident rate than regular cars. More fatalities by Tesla are completely expected. The finding is that Tesla is no better than its competition and certainly not better than regular cars except environmentally.