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Stewards found Norris to be responsible for the incident at the start, obviously, but only gave a reprimand and a small fine. There was no precedent set for this, sure, but I have been following F1 for a very long time and things like this usually got much harsher, sporting penalties but Lando didn't even get a penalty point. Charles however, got a higher fine for uttering a swear word. Ridiculous in itself of course but even more so because of it being a different penalty than Max got while he got his when there wasn't even a precedent set for such a violation. But the most egregious one of all, in my opinion, is the fact that a steward, who was stewarding the past 2 weekends btw, gave his opinions of a participant in a sport he is a referee for. This is just simply unacceptable. In any sport. | ||
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On November 04 2024 19:14 gTank wrote: Sore losers rarely show up after an event they talked so much shit about. Even Norris "just pure luck" crap shows what kind of character these people are. Man has this Norris quote ever been taken out of context and then ran wild with. He was commenting specifically on the red flag situation, which absolutely was lucky. Meanwhile he congratulated Max on his win afterwards. These two are friends. There's no world where Norris would somehow think Max isn't talented. Wtf even is this narrative? | ||
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On November 04 2024 21:31 Excludos wrote: Man has this Norris quote ever been taken out of context and then ran wild with. He was commenting specifically on the red flag situation, which absolutely was lucky. Meanwhile he congratulated Max on his win afterwards. These two are friends. There's no world where Norris would somehow think Max isn't talented. Wtf even is this narrative? What exactly is out of context? Was it luck that the red flag in the qualifying was put out way too late so people could have finished rounds, taking Verstappen out of Q2? Genuine question, maybe I have misheard something or important parts were cut out. I just listened to the drivers interviews seen on the F1 youtube channel and what he said was not flattering anyone. "you take a gamble and its paid off for them. its not talent or you know, its just luck". | ||
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If Lando was given a 10s penalty it wouldn't even have mattered but at least it would have set a better precedent. He didn't even get a single penalty point; How on earth is that even possible. | ||
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On November 04 2024 22:52 Penev wrote: Guys, it's not all that important what drivers say during or after a race, adrenaline makes people come of way stronger than than they would otherwise. Instead worry about the precedent that has been set by giving basically the lowest penalty possible for breach of protocol during a wet race with a recovery vehicle on track. If Lando was given a 10s penalty it wouldn't even have mattered but at least it would have set a better precedent. He didn't even get a single penalty point; How on earth is that even possible. This too, also while watching the race, Strohl was standing basically between his car and the track, I wouldnt stay in that place. Why didnt he go to safety off the track at least? | ||
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On November 04 2024 22:44 gTank wrote: What exactly is out of context? Was it luck that the red flag in the qualifying was put out way too late so people could have finished rounds, taking Verstappen out of Q2? Genuine question, maybe I have misheard something or important parts were cut out. I just listened to the drivers interviews seen on the F1 youtube channel and what he said was not flattering anyone. "you take a gamble and its paid off for them. its not talent or you know, its just luck". I mean, this is exactly what I wrote here during the race: On November 04 2024 01:38 Excludos wrote: Max has to be the luckiest person alive I'm sure Would be quite hypocritical of me if I didn't accept Lando saying what amounts to the exact same thing. I agree his "not talent" bit wasn't super well thought out, but people are really running away with it, claiming Lando is saying Max doesn't have talent, which just wasn't and isn't the case. Now, on to the topic that there should be harsher penalties for going around when there was suppose to be a full restart procedure, I'm a bit torn. On one hand, yeah, it absolutely was a breach of the rules. On the other, when was the last time we had a full restart procedure like this? I'm not sure I can recall a single time in the last decade at least? Combined with the fact that the warm up rounds tend to be well below even VSC pace, I don't think it was particularly dangerous. So for those reasons, I'm fine with it being a mild punishment. It being a milder punishment than uttering a cuss word, however, is absolutely bonkers ridiculous. FIA is an absolute kindergarten atm. | ||
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There wasn't any precedent for exactly what happened but Lando basically ran a red light and historically there have been harsh penalties for situations involving ignoring lights or signs. Surely penalty points are always involved. This laughably light penalty just sets such a bad precedent. About the other topic being discussed I'll just leave this Vettel quote I came across somewhere else: "I think it’s not fair. I mean, I don’t know what Lewis did. We’ve all been in that situation, we fight someone, we go sometimes wheel-to-wheel, it’s close and you have a lot of adrenaline going. Do you think comparing to football, if you have a microphone on a football player’s mouth, that everything he says is something nice and is a nice message when the guy tackles him and maybe sometimes he fouls him or not? I don’t think it’s justified to give us these kind of s*** questions and making up a story out of nothing, if we are just racing and we are full of adrenaline and sometime we say these things." | ||
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Lando's document (you can find the other 3 on Reddit as well): lando_norris_fined_5000_for_the_aborted_start | ||
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