EPTThe new blood in F1 is badly needed tbh. It's been fairly stale the last couple years, and with the restricted testing, there are a fair number of talented F2 drivers who don't get a chance at F1.
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Lmui
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The new blood in F1 is badly needed tbh. It's been fairly stale the last couple years, and with the restricted testing, there are a fair number of talented F2 drivers who don't get a chance at F1. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
Different sport, but FIA continues to clamp down on legendary drivers speaking their minds. This whole ordeal is absurdly childish | ||
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Penev
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At least Ogier insulted people, Max just suggested his car had intercourse. | ||
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Penev
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Didn't see this one coming. Nice. If this works out it might eventually lead to an engine or a Toyota factory team even. | ||
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Penev
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On October 11 2024 19:41 Excludos wrote: Can't wait for Toyota to spend a lot of time developing a great car only to pull out again when their next CEO decides they need to become more environmentally friendly You're thinking of Honda when they pulled out and Brawn won both championships after acquiring the team, and when they ended their partnership with Red Bull prematurely. When the unsuccessful Toyota team quit, their cars weren't used at all after. | ||
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Norway8279 Posts
On October 11 2024 20:14 Penev wrote: You're thinking of Honda when they pulled out and Brawn won both championships after acquiring the team, and when they ended their partnership with Red Bull prematurely. When the unsuccessful Toyota team quit, their cars weren't used at all after. No, Honda did that twice, both times right before they would have won the WDC and WCC. Toyota has never been that good. But they did invest a ton of money, have had several out of the box ideas that unfortunately didn't go anywhere or wasn't allowed, and they've done well as a mid field team and engine supplier. Fighting near the front of the mid field and getting fourth a couple of times. The season they pulled out they ended fifth in the WCC, and even had a couple of podiums and second place finishes | ||
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On October 21 2024 01:35 Aristodemus wrote: I'm not convinced Brawn would have won the title without that merc engine personally. Brawn wouldn't have won without any number of really lucky things going their way. It was the perfect Swiss cheese model of every hole lining up perfectly. I don't think anyone would have foreseen that they would do so well; they were expected to be a joke. They got really lucky with the Merc engine, and finding the double diffuser loophole which not only gained them 2 tenths outright, but also let them develop the car without fear of getting false data from stalling the diffuser (plus the literal 3 wind tunnels they ran at the time), so they just ended up with a more aerodynamically developed car over all. This meant that even tho the cat was out of the bag by round 1, the other teams weren't able to immediately catch up, letting them inch out just enough of an advantage throughout the first half of the season to coast into victory. | ||
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Penev
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The stewards are a joke | ||
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Penev
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On October 21 2024 05:44 Excludos wrote: Hahaha. Penalty for blatant defensive move? Naah. Penalty for being pushed off the track so far even Max himself went off track? Yes! The stewards are a joke It looked like Max went of the track but maybe he just about didn't (both tires have to be over the line simultaneously). Dunno, have to rewatch. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On October 21 2024 05:47 Penev wrote: It looked like Max went of the track but maybe he just about didn't (both tires have to be over the line simultaneously). Dunno, have to rewatch. Just rewatched to make sure: He was outside of track limits by like half a meter. No question about it | ||
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Aristodemus
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Penev
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On October 21 2024 05:50 Excludos wrote: Just rewatched to make sure: He was outside of track limits by like half a meter. No question about it That's a dumb decision idd then. Stewards have been really inconsistent on that corner the whole race I noticed. | ||
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Penev
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E: Hmm, Davidson agrees with the penalty; Apparently it doesn't matter Max went of the track. The rules benefit the defender too much if he's correct imo. | ||
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ggrrg
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On October 21 2024 05:56 Penev wrote: I wonder what Max's problem was btw; He certainly wasn't as fast as he was yesterday. E: Hmm, Davidson agrees with the penalty; Apparently it doesn't matter Max went of the track. The rules benefit the defender too much if he's correct imo. First he compared the Verstappen-Norris situation with Bottas-Russel explaining that the difference is if the defender is on the inside or on the outside - benefiting the defender. Then he showed the Norris-Verstappen (lap 1) situation, which was exactly the same as Bottas-Russel, but apparently this did not matter because the rules don't apply in lap 1... Not sure I agree with his take. Button certainly did not agree with that take. | ||
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Norway8279 Posts
On October 21 2024 05:56 Penev wrote: I wonder what Max's problem was btw; He certainly wasn't as fast as he was yesterday. E: Hmm, Davidson agrees with the penalty; Apparently it doesn't matter Max went of the track. The rules benefit the defender too much if he's correct imo. Yeah, unfortunately the precedent was set in 2021, and this is the way they've ruled in similar incidents since. I still think it's bullshit, and they need to get rid of it. You shouldn't be allowed to just push your opponent off track because your nose was a cm ahead of your opponent at the apex. That means even if you are behind going into the braking zone, you can purposefully brake late, never intend to make the corner, and just shove people off track. It's ridiculous and only serves to heighten bad driving standard | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On October 21 2024 05:56 Penev wrote: I wonder what Max's problem was btw; He certainly wasn't as fast as he was yesterday. E: Hmm, Davidson agrees with the penalty; Apparently it doesn't matter Max went of the track. The rules benefit the defender too much if he's correct imo. Yeah I kinda feel the fair way to address it is if you go off the track like max did trying to defend the position, you get a 5s penalty for forcing another driver off the track, and then Norris gets 5s for overtaking off the track if he holds the position. Gotta remedy the driving standards somewhere, and a double penalty is a good place to start. | ||
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