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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
June 27 2026 14:18 GMT
#3881
On June 27 2026 14:31 Aristodemus wrote:
Lots of rumours saying Max will join McLaren going around this weekend. That would certainly be a surprise to me!


That would be a lot more surprising than him finally joining Mercedes
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
June 27 2026 14:50 GMT
#3882
As a McLaren fan im not sure how i feel about that. Best driver no doubt, but they will never set the car to his unique style.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 27 2026 19:46 GMT
#3883
Max's style isn't unique, he just can handle rear instability really well. He is fast in anything, clearly. Do you doubt Max would've easily won last years championship if he had driven a McLaren? I don't.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 28 2026 14:41 GMT
#3884
The Max Lewis fights looked cool but there certainly was a yo-yo in play. It's good to see Red Bull is finally joining the fight but it doesn't help that Ferrari immediately stops performing. Every time it's just 1 team being able to challenge the Mercedes it seems.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
July 03 2026 17:50 GMT
#3885
On June 28 2026 04:46 Penev wrote:
Max's style isn't unique, he just can handle rear instability really well. He is fast in anything, clearly. Do you doubt Max would've easily won last years championship if he had driven a McLaren? I don't.


Well I did say he is the best driver clearly, but, McLaren wont do what RB had in the last development cycle and just head in a direction only Max can deal with. So yes, his style is unique. I think Albon put it perfectly comparing it to mouse sensitivity.

Can Max beat Norris without that development path? Absolutely
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 04 2026 10:50 GMT
#3886
That's funny, I was thinking of what Albon has said about the matter as well when I wrote my reply. But I don't interpret being more sensitive as a style thing.

I don't think RBR developed their car specifically for Max but I think they were blindsided by the fact he was still able to get everything out of it while his teammates struggled to do the same, before eventually Max started to struggle as well. Same as what Alonso once said about being able do drive around a problem and that that can be problematic because it hides the problem for the engineers.

A Red Bull mechanic said that a car never really is developed for a specific driver but that they just try to make it as fast as possible and that that can result in a car that is more difficult to drive and have a smaller setup window. But there probably is a slight bias to the input of the first driver I'd imagine.

I would assume Red Bull have learned from their mistake and McLaren would have as well but what happens if McLaren brings an update and Max is able to make it work but Lando isn't, would they revert the update? It's tricky, this stuff.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-04 11:44:03
July 04 2026 11:20 GMT
#3887
Agree with virtually everything but I absolutely do think RB developed their car for Max.

This is a cracking sprint race!

Edit: interesting interview with kimi, seems more concerned about the other teams than George. That says to me he is super confident he has the beating of him!
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 04 2026 11:59 GMT
#3888
Those battery deployment shenanigans though :/

Kimi is the real deal, no one can deny it anymore. An actual teenager in his 2nd season performing like that. Beyond impressive.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-05 11:28:26
July 05 2026 11:28 GMT
#3889
Whether a team consciously develops a car for a specific driver or not, the fact is that they will extract the data from the cars to see what works best and develop it that way. The fastest driver on the team will have more indirect input into the development of the car because that's obviously going to be what the engineers see as working the best. So while RB might never have intended to develop their car to fit Max, over time that's what ended up happening simply because he was able to drive it better
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 05 2026 19:53 GMT
#3890
FINALLY a Charles win. Mercedes and Red Bull reliability still not where it's supposed to be. Especially that Red Bull rear wing not properly closing really shouldn't happen, that's so dangerous.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 19 2026 14:36 GMT
#3891
Could've been 2 Charles wins in a row after that very convenient VSC but Kimi is just unstoppable.
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