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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
November 24 2024 07:29 GMT
#3541
Well done Max. 4th WDC.
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-24 08:10:03
November 24 2024 08:09 GMT
#3542
Yeah, congrats to Max, he handled the struggles this year really well.

And to George as well of course, apparently the Merc needs cold tracks to excel.

Gonna be some fun parties tonight in Vegas I imagine.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
November 24 2024 10:21 GMT
#3543
Congrats to Max for his fourth title! Well deserved
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1992 Posts
November 24 2024 11:26 GMT
#3544
Great season from max in what turned out to be a difficult car, he definitely had to earn that one.

Where the hell did that merc pace come from, looked great all weekend.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
November 25 2024 09:59 GMT
#3545
On November 24 2024 20:26 Aristodemus wrote:
Great season from max in what turned out to be a difficult car, he definitely had to earn that one.

Where the hell did that merc pace come from, looked great all weekend.


And also where was McLaren's pace all weekend?

Congrats to Super Max!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
November 30 2024 22:14 GMT
#3546
Unbelievable. Max lost his pole for something everyone else ever only have gotten reprimands for. What the actual fuck is it with these stewards when Max is involved. This is completely absurd.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-30 22:33:22
November 30 2024 22:25 GMT
#3547
On December 01 2024 07:14 Penev wrote:
Unbelievable. Max lost his pole for something everyone else ever only have gotten reprimands for. What the actual fuck is it with these stewards when Max is involved. This is completely absurd.


Lol. And a 1 spot grid penalty, which historically isn't a thing... They're just making shit up now. No official document have been released yet, but I'm really excited to hear what kind of bullshit excuse they're going to use for this one

edit: Nvm, it's released. Doc bot is just being slow for whatever reason. The penalty was allegedly for "driving unnecessarily slow" during cooldown lap, and that he "didn't comply with the Race Director's Event Notes". But he got 1 grid spot instead of 3, because Russell also wasn't on a fast lap.

So yes, it's bullshit. This isn't based on any precedent, as no penalty have ever been given for this kind of situation before. They really are just making it up on the spot. Love that
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
November 30 2024 22:36 GMT
#3548
On another note, Perez is being hilarious again. He claims he released slowly from the pits, and let Colapinto by, on purpose, because "He wanted clean air". Definitively a 200 IQ move. This is for instance often why you see P2 just slow down in the beginning and place themselves at the back of the grid. Because they want clean air! Who cares about racing?

Just absolute facepalm
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
November 30 2024 22:37 GMT
#3549
On December 01 2024 07:25 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2024 07:14 Penev wrote:
Unbelievable. Max lost his pole for something everyone else ever only have gotten reprimands for. What the actual fuck is it with these stewards when Max is involved. This is completely absurd.


Lol. And a 1 spot grid penalty, which historically isn't a thing... They're just making shit up now. No official document have been released yet, but I'm really excited to hear what kind of bullshit excuse they're going to use for this one

edit: Nvm, it's released. Doc bot is just being slow for whatever reason. The penalty was allegedly for "driving unnecessarily slow" during cooldown lap, and that he "didn't comply with the Race Director's Event Notes". But he got 1 grid spot instead of 3, because Russell also wasn't on a fast lap.

So yes, it's bullshit. This isn't based on any precedent, as no penalty have ever been given for this kind of situation before. They really are just making it up on the spot. Love that

Yeah, the "because Russell also wasn't on a fast lap" all previous times meant no penalty but no, this time it still is? Wtf. He even got a penalty point for it.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
December 01 2024 09:37 GMT
#3550
BS penalty is BS that is for sure. Really dont know what got into FIA these days.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
December 01 2024 10:17 GMT
#3551
The penalty point makes the least sense, as neither driving under delta on an out-lap (reprimand) or hindering someone on their hot lap (3 grid place penalty) actually incur penalty points. They've literally just made up a penalty on the fly. Absolute knobheads
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-01 15:00:40
December 01 2024 14:56 GMT
#3552
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ben-sulayem-tells-f1-drivers-how-he-runs-fia-is-none-of-their-business/10678286/

“This is our business,” he said when asked about recent events. “We'll do whatever is good for the FIA. So it's really none of people's business to interfere in ours. It's the results that we produce.”

But pushed on drivers in particular wanting answers over why Wittich was dropped with three races remaining, Ben Sulayem said: “Do we have to tell them? When something in the teams changes, do they tell us? No, they don't. Nobody has to. We have the rules, we follow our rules. We don't follow someone else's rule. Simple as this.”


What a grade A knobhead. How in the absolute fuck is it none of the driver's business what FIA does? And this from the man who's first power trip revolved around driver's jewelry and underpants

This guy can not disappear fast enough, but I'm probably naive hoping he'll be voted out in the next FIA election next year
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
December 01 2024 15:25 GMT
#3553
The amount of stupidity in his comments is incredible. So the rules and framework im which they are enforced are not relevant to the participants?

How does he have the job? Money makes miracles.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-01 17:01:09
December 01 2024 17:00 GMT
#3554
Race control, stewards, they're not great in this sport are they?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-01 17:23:46
December 01 2024 17:18 GMT
#3555
A 10s STOP AND GO!? Holy crap.

E: Hamilton a stop and go as well; Stop and go's are back on the menu bois?

E2: Hamilton a drive through obviously, still not a simple time penalty though.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
December 01 2024 17:37 GMT
#3556
Really happy Max won this one after that ridiculous penalty from yesterday

KARMA
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1992 Posts
December 02 2024 14:40 GMT
#3557
I highly doubt every single driver other than Lando lifted, which makes the extreme penalty very odd.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 14:46:01
December 02 2024 14:44 GMT
#3558
On December 02 2024 23:40 Aristodemus wrote:
I highly doubt every single driver other than Lando lifted, which makes the extreme penalty very odd.


Apparently they only checked Lando because Max mentioned it on comms. No one else was checked by the stewards. Leclerc didn't lift either, and Sainz only barely lifted after a while

If anyone ever wonders why "the drivers whine so much on the radio" this is why. Things are apparantly just not checked unless you do
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 15:31:25
December 02 2024 15:11 GMT
#3559
On December 02 2024 23:44 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 23:40 Aristodemus wrote:
I highly doubt every single driver other than Lando lifted, which makes the extreme penalty very odd.


Apparently they only checked Lando because Max mentioned it on comms. No one else was checked by the stewards. Leclerc didn't lift either, and Sainz only barely lifted after a while

If anyone ever wonders why "the drivers whine so much on the radio" this is why. Things are apparantly just not checked unless you do

According to what I read the top 5 and a back marker (Bottas) were shown the double yellows and only Norris didn't lift. Not saying the stewards checked but apparently the on boards show the before mentioned. Not sure where I read it, if I find it I'll post a link.

It seems the stewards only investigate if first race control "notes" something.

E: Can't find the article I previously read but a quick search gives another that shows, with telemetry, that both Ferrari's at least, did lift.
www.planetf1.com

Lando's penalty was correct. Both he and McLaren don't dispute that at all. The problem was more about how the whole situation with the mirror was handled. If a (virtual) safety car was called the whole situation could've been avoided.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 15:14:17
December 02 2024 15:13 GMT
#3560
On December 02 2024 23:40 Aristodemus wrote:
I highly doubt every single driver other than Lando lifted, which makes the extreme penalty very odd.

The stewards hands were tied on that one, the penalty for ignoring double yellows just is a 10s stop and go or a 30s time penalty when applied after the race.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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