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Vivax
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Trfel
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marvellosity
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Like it’s obviously not great that he didn’t do much. But I’m struggling to get excited about Trfel’s AZ/rsoultin angle in much the same way Trfel didn’t come with me on Mocsta. Tonally the dgaf is somewhat town. Bit crapshooty. Need more please | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 08 2024 22:43 marvellosity wrote: So I’ve reread kelsier. Didn’t take long tbh. Like it’s obviously not great that he didn’t do much. But I’m struggling to get excited about Trfel’s AZ/rsoultin angle in much the same way Trfel didn’t come with me on Mocsta. Tonally the dgaf is somewhat town. Bit crapshooty. Need more please Obviously mafia can say ‘you need to drop this shit’ but the tendency is there to defend yourself a bit more. The other option is kelsier is just bored of it and is saying so very bluntly | ||
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Oatsmaster
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rsoultin
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 08 2024 22:43 marvellosity wrote: So I’ve reread kelsier. Didn’t take long tbh. Like it’s obviously not great that he didn’t do much. But I’m struggling to get excited about Trfel’s AZ/rsoultin angle in much the same way Trfel didn’t come with me on Mocsta. Tonally the dgaf is somewhat town. Bit crapshooty. Need more please THe importance of this does diminish without further content | ||
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Vivax
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On June 08 2024 22:37 Trfel wrote: Sure thing. Honestly I'm surprised you are considering lynching die_meatbaby, you think she is mafia I assume? No I think she‘s nothingburger. Didn‘t like the part where she felt excluded by rsoultin but that‘s it | ||
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Trfel
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Oatsmaster
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 08 2024 22:54 Trfel wrote: I guess I have a hard time matching Kelsi3r's attitude with his productiveness. If he got irritated or frustrated and left that's somewhat understandable, for some reason that's not the interpretation I have though? Maybe I am being biased here though. As I’ll probably have time for one more proper thing today. Earlier you said this was the towniest game of Scott’s you’d seen. Two things. Can you explain that to me further? Secondly, assuming it is true, is it possible this is the towniest game you’ve seen from him because he’s mafia? Do you see what I’m saying? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
If he's not going to play, why do I need to drop it, right? "You're being obnoxious" and then afk is much more understandable. Also accusing me of lying, right after pointing out things I did that he thought were towny, and right before leaving... Like if I am lying, then I am mafia, and he should want to get me lynched? I just can't put together a mindset that makes it make sense. Any one thing, sure, but not the overall picture. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 08 2024 23:00 Trfel wrote: Like, he says "you need to drop this".... If he's not going to play, why do I need to drop it, right? "You're being obnoxious" and then afk is much more understandable. Also accusing me of lying, right after pointing out things I did that he thought were towny, and right before leaving... Like if I am lying, then I am mafia, and he should want to get me lynched? I just can't put together a mindset that makes it make sense. Any one thing, sure, but not the overall picture. This is a fair point | ||
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Trfel
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On June 08 2024 22:58 marvellosity wrote: For #2, I thought about that, it's maybe possible but I have no idea how I'd verify this. I don't think it's dramatically different from scott31337's other games. More like, same but better, as opposed to a major contrast.As I’ll probably have time for one more proper thing today. Earlier you said this was the towniest game of Scott’s you’d seen. Two things. Can you explain that to me further? Secondly, assuming it is true, is it possible this is the towniest game you’ve seen from him because he’s mafia? Do you see what I’m saying? #1 is subjective and depends on 8+ year old memory so it's very difficult to explain. But he made a list post, even if most of it was "this person is playing like they do as town so they are town" or "this person is playing like they do as mafia so they are mafia." And he actually looked at AlphaZero's filter and made a conclusion from it. That's pretty special, above the level I was expecting. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 08 2024 23:04 Trfel wrote: For #2, I thought about that, it's maybe possible but I have no idea how I'd verify this. I don't think it's dramatically different from scott31337's other games. More like, same but better, as opposed to a major contrast. #1 is subjective and depends on 8+ year old memory so it's very difficult to explain. But he made a list post, even if most of it was "this person is playing like they do as town so they are town" or "this person is playing like they do as mafia so they are mafia." And he actually looked at AlphaZero's filter and made a conclusion from it. That's pretty special, above the level I was expecting. Playing devils advocate here. Is it above the level you were expecting because he already knows the answer? | ||
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Trfel
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On June 08 2024 23:06 marvellosity wrote: Tbh I don't follow, it's not about the conclusion, it's simply that he did it. Frankly his conclusion was not very good, but that's not the point. He actually had an idea and tried to find reasoning to prove his point.Playing devils advocate here. Is it above the level you were expecting because he already knows the answer? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
Still weighing this up. It’s the worst thing in his filter for sure. | ||
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Trfel
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On June 08 2024 23:10 marvellosity wrote: Eh, third worst, but oh well.Still weighing this up. It’s the worst thing in his filter for sure. | ||
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Vivax
21677 Posts
Maybe I'm getting reverse psych'd again but it's just too nonchalant for me. | ||
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