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On June 08 2024 21:24 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:20 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 21:18 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:16 AlphaZero wrote:
I want to lynch Scott unless he comes back and shits town flavored rainbows. 🌈
That make sense trfel?? Yes and no, I understand that this is your perspective, but I disagree that doing so makes sense  In my opinion this is the towniest game I've ever seen scott31337 play. I'm just not very inclined to lynch him in it tbh. What do you propose then trfel? Kelsier lynch? It’s almost policy at this point. Yes, I've made it pretty clear that I want to lynch Kelsi3r. I don't think any other lynch is anywhere near as good. I don't think it's policy at all, honestly to me it looks most like either: 1 - he got bullied out of the thread or 2 - he got caught and lost motivation to post Obviously I think it's the latter, though if there is reasoning for the former I am willing to reconsider. Policy is lynching someone for activity or something like that. Kelsi3r was around, walked himself into a hole, got caught, and THEN stopped posting. Very, very different.
Can you show this behavior happening through a series of quoted posts?
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On June 08 2024 21:25 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:24 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:20 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 21:18 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:16 AlphaZero wrote:
I want to lynch Scott unless he comes back and shits town flavored rainbows. 🌈
That make sense trfel?? Yes and no, I understand that this is your perspective, but I disagree that doing so makes sense In my opinion this is the towniest game I've ever seen scott31337 play. I'm just not very inclined to lynch him in it tbh. What do you propose then trfel? Kelsier lynch? It’s almost policy at this point. Yes, I've made it pretty clear that I want to lynch Kelsi3r. I don't think any other lynch is anywhere near as good. I don't think it's policy at all, honestly to me it looks most like either: 1 - he got bullied out of the thread or 2 - he got caught and lost motivation to post Obviously I think it's the latter, though if there is reasoning for the former I am willing to reconsider. Policy is lynching someone for activity or something like that. Kelsi3r was around, walked himself into a hole, got caught, and THEN stopped posting. Very, very different. I don’t think the last part is what happened. I think it’s policy.
it's not policy because it's not just about activity. it's about what he's done while active. i don't think he's done anything interesting at all
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On June 08 2024 21:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:25 Trfel wrote:
If someone asks me about something I'm most likely going to respond. You're going to have to deal with it. What’s the most disgusting sex you’ve ever had? Oh, I see.
Congratulations, you found the exception.
On June 08 2024 21:25 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:24 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:20 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 21:18 Trfel wrote:On June 08 2024 21:16 AlphaZero wrote:
I want to lynch Scott unless he comes back and shits town flavored rainbows. 🌈
That make sense trfel?? Yes and no, I understand that this is your perspective, but I disagree that doing so makes sense In my opinion this is the towniest game I've ever seen scott31337 play. I'm just not very inclined to lynch him in it tbh. What do you propose then trfel? Kelsier lynch? It’s almost policy at this point. Yes, I've made it pretty clear that I want to lynch Kelsi3r. I don't think any other lynch is anywhere near as good. I don't think it's policy at all, honestly to me it looks most like either: 1 - he got bullied out of the thread or 2 - he got caught and lost motivation to post Obviously I think it's the latter, though if there is reasoning for the former I am willing to reconsider. Policy is lynching someone for activity or something like that. Kelsi3r was around, walked himself into a hole, got caught, and THEN stopped posting. Very, very different. I don’t think the last part is what happened. I think it’s policy. I guess we're at a disagreement. I laid out two separate, strong reasons why Kelsi3r is likely mafia. If you don't agree then it is what it is.
I'm just going to pretend Oatsmaster doesn't exist for a while.
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I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that.
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On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that.
\o/ dude that almost made me smile i'm so damn tired -_-
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On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that.
He’s just not here though. When he’s here the posting is good from what I’ve rwad
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On June 08 2024 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that. He’s just not here though. When he’s here the posting is good from what I’ve rwad
True, but ‘not here’ tends to be alignment indicative more often than not.
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On June 08 2024 20:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 20:21 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 20:18 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 08:38 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 04:07 Trfel wrote:Having second thoughts about marvellosity. I think I do actually want to pursue this after all. On June 07 2024 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 19:27 Trfel wrote:On June 07 2024 16:44 Kelsi3r wrote:
I enjoyed Alpha Zero pointing out that scott had basically answered his own question and giving it a red flag. I love shit like that.
What does it say about scott? I don't know
But rsoutlin also liked it so I guess I like Alpha and rsoultin at this early stage.
Trefl and rayn were posting a lot and having a discussion, i've always been a sucker for activity = town . But ngl I didn't read a lot of the posts and sort of glazed over.
That's an ok starting point.
Yeah idk. The more I think about this (plus his previous post where he says he doesn't like Vivax) the more I am suspicious. If Kelsi3r doesn't know what AlphaZero's point about scott31337 means with regards to scott31337's alignment, that should lead to there being less reason to townread AlphaZero (and also anyone else) for this reasoning, no? Of course you don't always have to agree with someone's reasoning to think it makes them look towny, but it certainly helps. Furthermore, I could understand it better if he just said that it made AlphaZero look better, since they were the first to clearly lay out that line of thinking. But to add on that rsoultin looks good, purely for agreeing, when Kelsi3r himself doesn't even know if the point means anything for scott31337's alignment? Seems out of place. And to add, the only person he said he didn't like, Vivax, also commented on this kind of idea. Vivax didn't put scott31337's posts in contrast like AlphaZero did, but he (rightfully) pointed out that one of scott31337's posts in question didn't make a ton of sense. It wasn't exactly the same idea, but it was somewhat similar, and this was (presumably) enough to make AlphaZero say that Vivax looks town. Kelsi3r seems to have ignored this entirely, however? New top suspect, I think. I agree with this, the logic doesn’t track. On June 08 2024 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
I actually agreed with sand’s take on kelsier (sort of as a response to Scott here)
When I read mocstas vote on kelsier “you’re being intentionally obtuse”, I just thought well that’s a townie trait if ever I heard one So marvellosity agreed with me that Kelsi3r's logic didn't make sense, but then still includes Kelsi3r in the "town" category because Mocsta said he was being obtuse and that's a town trait? Reading through marvellosity's filter, I do still like that he acknowledged my point on Kelsi3r, and I like his line of questioning to Mocsta about his read change on me (Trfel). But he hasn't done really anything else of substance? It looks like his top suspects are scott31337 and Mocsta, and other than putting scott31337 at the bottom of his list post, he hasn't even mentioned him. Just feels uncharacteristically disjointed. I don't get the impression that he is looking for mafia, and I don't get the impression that he cares enough about his (few) thoughts to remember them later. I can talk about this. I bought into what sand was selling me. So that’s why Scott and kelsier were where they were. Mocsta I was/am suspicious of, still primarily because I think he was making it up when he talked about the posts you made. aawwwwww Mate. I probably shouldn't have posted my first post Game started at 10 for me and earliest chance I had to read was 4 sitting on plane In short hectic mad day and I was so excited to make intro post for first time.in maybe 6years.. I see the length of the game and was like wtf I dont have time.to do this before take.off and lose reception. Quickly skim and rsoultin and trfel.poats were the ones where my mind just disconnected from. Could not engage So put it out there to just have out it out there I wouldn't say the post content was forced because it's how I felt at that moment, although the sentiment that I needed to post something , yes was forced It's also part of why I retracted once I landed and read thoroughly This is his explanation for the stuff I picked up on with regards to your early posting. I understand that people make mistakes (especially early) but do I buy this? Is it the right sort of mistake? Is it the sort of mistake town makes? It’s not carelessness, it’s a characterisation of your posts as forced/contrived. It’s difficult tbh. ‘The sentiment that I needed to post something, yes was forced’ Similar to what he said about (not) fitting in I don’t like any of it. I can follow your progression so it's valid just wrong unfortunately. I have enjoyed the vibe the past page even though it's about me. Exclude me fine but it all feels townie including alpha. I will respond to alpha once I finish date night so sometime before cycle. Just not now. One caveat I will add which unfortunately doesn't help anyone is.. my reads are highly volatile and my language is much looser than how others would.use the same phrases. I totally get why alpha says I justify conclusions. In my mind I haven't concluded anything it's just the..peak of my snapshot at that point. Is what it is. Would.like to be different and personally after 6years from this game.im.surprised.myself to see that come.out. I think I'm going to have to commit to a full re read which I really dont want to do but if alpha is actually town I want to remove that bias Right now. If you ask me who to lymch. My strongest inclination is to sheep onto something that I can relate to which i havent yet seen but am.expecting between now and end of cycle. I reckon this will push you more scum into me but again is what it is.
Let me just say that this is also pretty meh. Mocsta imo is struggling to form believable reads.
I have sympathy for keeping you around on D1 but only cause you don‘t play that often.
But then I‘d also want you to be clear in who to lynch instead.
Show us who is keeping you lost and shaking in the scum qt.
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On June 08 2024 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that. He’s just not here though. When he’s here the posting is good from what I’ve rwad
oats dude, my impression of sandy is he comes in and parrots the thread and parks on scott who at the time had the most thread sentiment against him
i know this comes from focusing overmuch on him parroting what i said on truffle early game when he was stiff as a board, but then he drops truffle. one interpretation is he sees the exact same thing everyone else does later in the game while he's catching up i'll admit
it's easy to have 'correct' reads when mirroring thread sentiment after the fact. i don't see anything good or original from him except maybe the kelsier being grumpy makes him town?
and it's just stupid weird that he literally says scum!rso has hard pushed me but i think they're just terrible this time and rayn's scum but rayn's metaread on them is giving me more pause over my own experiences with her when she was mafia
how does that make sense?
yes i'm focused on me but whatever lol >< i'm not pretending to be objective
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On June 08 2024 11:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 20:11 Mocsta wrote:On June 07 2024 20:05 Kelsi3r wrote:On June 07 2024 20:02 Mocsta wrote:
How about why isn't rsoultin scum? Is she? Whats the case ? You have my vote now ##vote: kelsi3rFor being intentionally obtuse . This shouldn't be this hard mate Ah yes this is a vote that makes Mocsta mafia imo. Town points if you see what I see.
His previous read on rsoultin was that he reverted to neutral but when he votes Kelsier it‘s because he expected him to easily see what made her scum after he stopped scumreading her.
That‘s not only scummy in itself but implies also rsoultin or Kelsier as teammates if Mocsta is. But that‘s associative so meh.
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On June 08 2024 21:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 11:38 Vivax wrote:On June 07 2024 20:11 Mocsta wrote:On June 07 2024 20:05 Kelsi3r wrote:On June 07 2024 20:02 Mocsta wrote:
How about why isn't rsoultin scum? Is she? Whats the case ? You have my vote now ##vote: kelsi3rFor being intentionally obtuse . This shouldn't be this hard mate Ah yes this is a vote that makes Mocsta mafia imo. Town points if you see what I see. His previous read on rsoultin was that he reverted to neutral but when he votes Kelsier it‘s because he expected him to easily see what made her scum after he stopped scumreading her. That‘s not only scummy in itself but implies also rsoultin or Kelsier as teammates if Mocsta is. But that‘s associative so meh.
Since when do you shy away from associative reads . That’s like your bag, your house and your 401k
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On June 08 2024 21:34 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that. He’s just not here though. When he’s here the posting is good from what I’ve rwad True, but ‘not here’ tends to be alignment indicative more often than not.
That’s not true
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Of the bottom 3 posters what’s the average hit rate for them to be mafia?
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On June 08 2024 21:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 11:38 Vivax wrote:On June 07 2024 20:11 Mocsta wrote:On June 07 2024 20:05 Kelsi3r wrote:On June 07 2024 20:02 Mocsta wrote:
How about why isn't rsoultin scum? Is she? Whats the case ? You have my vote now ##vote: kelsi3rFor being intentionally obtuse . This shouldn't be this hard mate Ah yes this is a vote that makes Mocsta mafia imo. Town points if you see what I see. His previous read on rsoultin was that he reverted to neutral but when he votes Kelsier it‘s because he expected him to easily see what made her scum after he stopped scumreading her. That‘s not only scummy in itself but implies also rsoultin or Kelsier as teammates if Mocsta is. But that‘s associative so meh. Uh, to be honest I don't think that's what happened?
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On June 08 2024 21:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote:
I will say one thing.
Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy.
Rso is right about that. He’s just not here though. When he’s here the posting is good from what I’ve rwad oats dude, my impression of sandy is he comes in and parrots the thread and parks on scott who at the time had the most thread sentiment against him i know this comes from focusing overmuch on him parroting what i said on truffle early game when he was stiff as a board, but then he drops truffle. one interpretation is he sees the exact same thing everyone else does later in the game while he's catching up i'll admit it's easy to have 'correct' reads when mirroring thread sentiment after the fact. i don't see anything good or original from him except maybe the kelsier being grumpy makes him town? and it's just stupid weird that he literally says scum!rso has hard pushed me but i think they're just terrible this time and rayn's scum but rayn's metaread on them is giving me more pause over my own experiences with her when she was mafia how does that make sense? yes i'm focused on me but whatever lol >< i'm not pretending to be objective can you actually quote some posts
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On June 08 2024 21:43 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 21:41 Vivax wrote:On June 08 2024 11:38 Vivax wrote:On June 07 2024 20:11 Mocsta wrote:On June 07 2024 20:05 Kelsi3r wrote:On June 07 2024 20:02 Mocsta wrote:
How about why isn't rsoultin scum? Is she? Whats the case ? You have my vote now ##vote: kelsi3rFor being intentionally obtuse . This shouldn't be this hard mate Ah yes this is a vote that makes Mocsta mafia imo. Town points if you see what I see. His previous read on rsoultin was that he reverted to neutral but when he votes Kelsier it‘s because he expected him to easily see what made her scum after he stopped scumreading her. That‘s not only scummy in itself but implies also rsoultin or Kelsier as teammates if Mocsta is. But that‘s associative so meh. Since when do you shy away from associative reads . That’s like your bag, your house and your 401k
I‘ve got wise as they say.
Sounds like something iamperfection would say.
I‘m evaluating a dmb lynch, got work in an hour.
I don‘t know what the fuck rayn is doing, maybe he got masoned and is writing smut with marv in there.
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Starting on p10
Kelsi3r: AlphaZero has a good point about scott31337, not sure what it means about scott31337 but it makes AlphaZero and rsoultin look good
Mocsta: Asks Kelsi3r why the read on rsoultin matters with regards to AlphaZero, to be honest I don't know what this means
Kelsi3r: it's up to you why my read matters
Mocsta: you mentioned rsoultin affecting your read on AlphaZero (again idk what he is saying)
Kelsi3r: what don't you understand?
Mocsta: why isn't rsoultin mafia?
Kelsi3r: why is rsoultin mafia?
Mocsta: votes for Kelsi3r
I really don't think Mocsta is saying that rsoultin is mafia, rather, he is asking why Kelsi3r said rsoultin is towny. Huge difference.
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On June 08 2024 22:03 Trfel wrote:
Starting on p10
Kelsi3r: AlphaZero has a good point about scott31337, not sure what it means about scott31337 but it makes AlphaZero and rsoultin look good
Mocsta: Asks Kelsi3r why the read on rsoultin matters with regards to AlphaZero, to be honest I don't know what this means
Kelsi3r: it's up to you why my read matters
Mocsta: you mentioned rsoultin affecting your read on AlphaZero (again idk what he is saying)
Kelsi3r: what don't you understand?
Mocsta: why isn't rsoultin mafia?
Kelsi3r: why is rsoultin mafia?
Mocsta: votes for Kelsi3r
I really don't think Mocsta is saying that rsoultin is mafia, rather, he is asking why Kelsi3r said rsoultin is towny. Huge difference.
I can see what you mean.
Maybe you‘re right and I misinterpreted.
In which case I‘ll adjust vote to either Kelsier or Scott. But leaning Kelsier.
I don‘t have strong convictions otherwise.
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I did scott though. I prefer to vote with marv and sandro for the time being.
Kelsier doesn‘t try hard to look good so that‘s a plus on his side too.
And I remain faithful to the early hunch
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Yes everyone can now see vivax is mafia?
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EPT
