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On June 08 2024 18:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:11 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 18:09 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 17:55 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 17:49 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 17:48 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 17:43 marvellosity wrote:
The push-but I’m not going to push from Mocsta gives me the ick well you've been building that since yesterday We are both here. Let's chat My head space has been outputted in past couple posts. Where do we go from here? Btw. I believe people do change however you used to read me pretty good and go against grain to back me. I'm not scum calling you or being butthurt. More confused than anything hopefully chat helps that both ways. This is not my memory lol ohh haha.. well I know there was a game I was mafia and took you to the end so that's fair Funny how objective reality distorts through each user! Copy copy I know what Scott asked me and that I didn't answer directly If I had mayor vote. I would drop AZ If I could lead a wagon I would consider kelsier/dmb If I wanted to take a gamble I would drop Rayn. I have to read sandroba / slam although I haven't been concerned by them to date I have not seen anything else I want to sheep at this point although recognize my current cred means I need to 🐑 So who are you lynching? for real.. my vote is in kelsier mate .that's a disappointing response form you. I extended an olive branch too Oh yeah. That vote from way earlier d1? I mean he reason it’s a disappointing response from me is because reading so many of your posts, that doesn’t seem to be the main driver for you. What I’m getting at is if your vote wasn’t there it would be really unclear what you were doing. And as for olive branch, I’m not being a dick am I? nah not a dick, Cos I get what you are asking
I just meant I put my neck out with that list in my opinion
Not Cos of the names but how it's said and knowingly contradicts some stuff
Look my dilemma.is simple as stated
I don't see AZ being bandwagons this cycle..I'm only outting his name out as a response to others. I'm Not initiating
In my book that's significant difference and makes it half ok.
Az response has been different to what I thought. I assumed he would make a case so I'm a bit it taken back by it almost seems deflated
Yes kelsier is early on and I don't view it as a bad lunch
Maybe it's a higher chance of bad townie than mafia and I'm not even sure gives that much info I think other options are just a lottery draw. So if wagons form when I'm asleep I'm all good with kelsier.. that's about it really?
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On June 08 2024 18:17 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 18:01 AlphaZero wrote:
It's probably mocsta/scott/xxx someone like vivax or slam Well I mean that's predictable given me today What if it wasn't me? Would Scott/vivax/slam still be your group? Not sure, I don't really work with teams much of the time. Just work on what is individually scummy and then if the team makes sense that's bonus points. I think it's possible rso is mafia for example, but I wouldn't make a wager that this was the case. Same with rayn. I think Scott and yourself are a pairing that makes sense if I was going to make associative cases. And you are both in the poe if I was going to eliminate the townie looking players. If one of you was town though I would bet you were town over Scott hands down.
That's totally reasonable
Thanks for responding in clarity
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As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done.
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Mocsta can you give me an analysis of Scott from your perspective please
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On June 08 2024 18:23 AlphaZero wrote:
As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done. None of those apply to me
Ignoring mason neighbour thing since he has since fully dropped it
Rest of filter looks like active hunting to me
I don't care he buddies to me. As town or Mafia it fits how the thread has shaped.
I think he pulled up some interesting posts. He has no such limited cred can't start a wagon either so that's pretty much max output he can do as a townie.
Would he do that as mafia? I genuinely don't think so.
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On June 08 2024 18:26 AlphaZero wrote:
Mocsta can you give me an analysis of Scott from your perspective please Perfectly timed 
Cna you please check out my post #735 re dmb
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On June 08 2024 17:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 08:32 scott31337 wrote:
Who do you want to lynch today Mocsta? Not you. Have read your filter and like how you picked yourself up from all the mason/neighbour discussion in particular examining multiple players which from your situation I assume.tonbe more town likely than mafia. I'm slightly concerned kelsi3r could be a bad townie vote > mafia.. just because the way the wagon is building is a bit odd.. limited buy in (even though majority so far) and also no resistance.. it's possible wagons will take off in final two hours so meh??
So it’s taken me way too long to find this, it’s precisely because I had read this I asked you who you wanted to lynch Mocsta.
Your stance on your lynch target seems to be ‘he was very unhelpful’ and as above ‘could just be a bad townie vote’
It’s hardly strong stuff
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On June 08 2024 18:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:23 AlphaZero wrote:
As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done. None of those apply to me Ignoring mason neighbour thing since he has since fully dropped it Rest of filter looks like active hunting to me I don't care he buddies to me. As town or Mafia it fits how the thread has shaped. I think he pulled up some interesting posts. He has no such limited cred can't start a wagon either so that's pretty much max output he can do as a townie. Would he do that as mafia? I genuinely don't think so.
Can you post some hunting he is doing that isn't refrencing me (cause to me that Is a point against him) just curious what you consider active hunting.
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On June 08 2024 12:58 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in  woe is me i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for.. i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS) the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged. will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba people i am not open to lynching today are: oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv.. i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that.
Which alignment wants to fit in, also 
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On June 08 2024 17:23 Mocsta wrote:
I want to see how diemeatballs responds to az voting vivax
Dmb filter is small and concise yet I find I have to really concentrate to not gloss over it.. it's like there is a focus/permission to concentrate on vivax and by extension oats and rest is playful interaction with no purpose that I can identify.
May also fit into theory of not wanting to mason although that's not an argument as very hypothetical.
Does dmb fit into town meta? I really can't be armed to dig through past games.
Which then also is a point of curiosity that dmb made a big deal to requests Scotts past game history.. a glimpse of active and productive townie yet rest of filter doesn't align with that gusto
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On June 08 2024 18:31 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 17:23 Mocsta wrote:
I want to see how diemeatballs responds to az voting vivax
Dmb filter is small and concise yet I find I have to really concentrate to not gloss over it.. it's like there is a focus/permission to concentrate on vivax and by extension oats and rest is playful interaction with no purpose that I can identify.
May also fit into theory of not wanting to mason although that's not an argument as very hypothetical.
Does dmb fit into town meta? I really can't be armed to dig through past games.
Which then also is a point of curiosity that dmb made a big deal to requests Scotts past game history.. a glimpse of active and productive townie yet rest of filter doesn't align with that gusto
Nothing here makes her mafia imo
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On June 08 2024 18:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:23 AlphaZero wrote:
As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done. None of those apply to me Ignoring mason neighbour thing since he has since fully dropped it Rest of filter looks like active hunting to me I don't care he buddies to me. As town or Mafia it fits how the thread has shaped. I think he pulled up some interesting posts. He has no such limited cred can't start a wagon either so that's pretty much max output he can do as a townie. Would he do that as mafia? I genuinely don't think so.
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On June 08 2024 18:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 12:58 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in woe is me i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for.. i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS) the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged. will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba people i am not open to lynching today are: oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv.. i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that. Which alignment wants to fit in, also all can. It's a personality driven thing my dude
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On June 08 2024 18:31 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:31 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 17:23 Mocsta wrote:
I want to see how diemeatballs responds to az voting vivax
Dmb filter is small and concise yet I find I have to really concentrate to not gloss over it.. it's like there is a focus/permission to concentrate on vivax and by extension oats and rest is playful interaction with no purpose that I can identify.
May also fit into theory of not wanting to mason although that's not an argument as very hypothetical.
Does dmb fit into town meta? I really can't be armed to dig through past games.
Which then also is a point of curiosity that dmb made a big deal to requests Scotts past game history.. a glimpse of active and productive townie yet rest of filter doesn't align with that gusto Nothing here makes her mafia imo I can accept that on basis of being in poe. As it doesn't make her town either
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On June 08 2024 18:32 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:28 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 18:23 AlphaZero wrote:
As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done. None of those apply to me Ignoring mason neighbour thing since he has since fully dropped it Rest of filter looks like active hunting to me I don't care he buddies to me. As town or Mafia it fits how the thread has shaped. I think he pulled up some interesting posts. He has no such limited cred can't start a wagon either so that's pretty much max output he can do as a townie. Would he do that as mafia? I genuinely don't think so.
This post is sus- how can you just ignore the points against him? It's like you aren't trying to discern what that means for his alignment.
Even Ignoring his opening, his case against me was objectively scummy-
Then you call his scumhunting a strong point.
It's mind boggling stuff.
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On June 08 2024 18:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:30 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 12:58 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in woe is me i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for.. i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS) the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged. will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba people i am not open to lynching today are: oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv.. i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that. Which alignment wants to fit in, also all can. It's a personality driven thing my dude
Come now.
You’re smart enough to know that mafia need to fit in and town generally don’t care as they just want to find mafia.
That’s not to say it’s a 100% thing else I’d have switched my vote to you immediately. But you know what I’m saying is true.
As an aside that’s where the kelsier town read came from. He so blatantly wasn’t trying to pacify you or town. Again this is not 100% but it’s a townie trait and not a mafia trait.
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On June 08 2024 18:34 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:31 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 18:31 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 17:23 Mocsta wrote:
I want to see how diemeatballs responds to az voting vivax
Dmb filter is small and concise yet I find I have to really concentrate to not gloss over it.. it's like there is a focus/permission to concentrate on vivax and by extension oats and rest is playful interaction with no purpose that I can identify.
May also fit into theory of not wanting to mason although that's not an argument as very hypothetical.
Does dmb fit into town meta? I really can't be armed to dig through past games.
Which then also is a point of curiosity that dmb made a big deal to requests Scotts past game history.. a glimpse of active and productive townie yet rest of filter doesn't align with that gusto Nothing here makes her mafia imo I can accept that on basis of being in poe. As it doesn't make her town either
So what's your point? You agree with me that she is null.
And we had to track back here why?
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On June 08 2024 18:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:30 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 12:58 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in woe is me i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for.. i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS) the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged. will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba people i am not open to lynching today are: oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv.. i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that. Which alignment wants to fit in, also all can. It's a personality driven thing my dude
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On June 08 2024 18:38 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:33 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 18:30 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 12:58 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in woe is me i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for.. i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS) the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged. will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba people i am not open to lynching today are: oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv.. i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that. Which alignment wants to fit in, also all can. It's a personality driven thing my dude
Lol, my man 😆
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On June 08 2024 18:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 17:43 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 08:32 scott31337 wrote:
Who do you want to lynch today Mocsta? Not you. Have read your filter and like how you picked yourself up from all the mason/neighbour discussion in particular examining multiple players which from your situation I assume.tonbe more town likely than mafia. I'm slightly concerned kelsi3r could be a bad townie vote > mafia.. just because the way the wagon is building is a bit odd.. limited buy in (even though majority so far) and also no resistance.. it's possible wagons will take off in final two hours so meh?? So it’s taken me way too long to find this, it’s precisely because I had read this I asked you who you wanted to lynch Mocsta. Your stance on your lynch target seems to be ‘he was very unhelpful’ and as above ‘could just be a bad townie vote’ It’s hardly strong stuff didn't realize I was known for strong stuff
My perception of kelsi3r is mostly unchanged even with all players now posting.
My consideration is exactly as drafted. The build smells to me like mafia are happy with this course of action.
Maybe you don't play with those factors?? It is something I give a weighting towards
I mean I get it's a shit defense mafia can easily throw out. But dude my mafia game is not about being 180 out of sync with dominant players. I don't really know what else I can tell you?
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