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die_meatbaby
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DarthPunk
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On March 13 2024 12:58 die_meatbaby wrote: @dp do you think vivax could be mafia? I don't want to answer this yet. See what people say first. | ||
die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On March 13 2024 13:01 DarthPunk wrote: I don't want to answer this yet. See what people say first. Coward. What do you fear? Why not just answer? | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On March 13 2024 13:03 die_meatbaby wrote: Coward. What do you fear? Why not just answer? Ok fine. I was trying to see if anyone would call him mafia because its basically a guarantee that they are mafia if they say that. but now it is ruined. No I don't think he is mafia that is dumb as hell. | ||
Jealous
10087 Posts
He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance. Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like? 1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup. In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations? Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote: He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance. Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like? 1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup. In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations? Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks. | ||
Jealous
10087 Posts
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote: Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks. You're gonna have to walk me through this. | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired | ||
Jealous
10087 Posts
On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote: Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB? | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote: Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB? Exactly. If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing. Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
This is a great catch On March 13 2024 06:44 iamperfection wrote: Meapak have you come to a conclusion on palmar? I’ll do that after I finish catching up, sorry been swamped. On March 13 2024 07:04 JacobStrangelove wrote: Damn so you start looking into your reads and suddenly they're town can't find anything because maybe you're mafia? Also Koshi's more than happy making complete 180 on various people without much backing it up and without using mason chat is mad sus ngl. Wonder if they're getting on a potential Palmer bus early. To be clear, you’re looking at a scum read of both Palmar and Koshi? Do you really think scum would be bussing Palmar already? On March 13 2024 07:36 Koshi wrote: If I would have masoned anybody. I would have masoned MZ and try to work the game out with him and see what would have happened. But I simply cba to do outside stuff and only really considered it today and somewhere once during the 48 day phase. Believe it or not. Wish you had On March 13 2024 08:04 iamperfection wrote: If cop is town rels has to be town I would think right? Such an uncessary play if otherwise? I am tryinig to work through the logic of Rels doing what he did as either alignment, it does draw so much attention to yourself. Especially since I thought about the game/stuff from D3’s lynch a fair bit while I was at work, I think I’m becoming more convinced she’s town again. But I don’t want to clear Rels just based off that. On March 13 2024 08:32 justanothertownie wrote: For the record - I think we should look into this pool for lynch tomorrow (no particular order): CC MZ DMB + potentially Koshi (he fell off pretty badly since day1, maybe scum Koshi running out of juice? Could & should easily turn up the heat if he is town so some pressure here could be worth it) I am not feeling the Palmar lynch/I don't think he is mafia. This list is terrible and not just for the OMGUS factor, these people are lynchbait at this point and the fact that you are using this to defend Palmar is pinging me immediately. Also I very much disagree with the characterization of Koshi’s play. On March 13 2024 09:06 JacobStrangelove wrote: I mean my two big cases this game have been Koshi and palmer and I think they're together if so Ok this is the second post you’ve made about this, I’ll be really interested to chat about this turbo bus theory. On March 13 2024 09:11 iamperfection wrote: If i understand the game correctly mafia have to RB vivax and shoot either DP or Jacob. If something other then that happens reassess. If i die really reassess. My updated what i think posting now as i have to do something and might not be back before deadline so just in case a weird kill happens. Iamperfection innocent child. More townie then even those confirmed by mechanics JacobStrangelove Only way to be scum would be if he and DP were scum together which I consider to be almost impossible. DarthPunk He is town. Way too invested. The shoot mafia partner theory I put at less then .02 % Vivax He town. His insane muck up the thread that nobody with half a brain on mafia team would buy just posting too much no reason to doubt the claim. die_meatbaby - I think there are just some posts that show a tiny bit of critical thinking. Don’t think they would be capable of that as mafia. justanothertownie- Eh hard to say has some overly deffensive posts which suggest a scum mindset. Post #5588 stands out to me as being overly deffensive. Post 5525 is a list post which reaches no conclusion so not sure why it would be posted. Possible scum but i dont feel that strong about it. More recently had some posts where he was trying to figure stuff out I guess. Don’t feel too strong here. Meapak_Ziphh- I guess its possible to be scum but i dont know i think i can understand his posting especially at the time of the lynch in what he was doing. Also remembered the cake thing when i asked. Also some aggresiveness in his posting Rels- I kind of like the callout of jealous he had recently and also his analysis of what happened with DMB right at the deadline so possibly town. If cop is mafia ballsy play and if town seems unnecessary to me. i think possibly town. Jealous- I had a weird feels ever since he returned to the game. I thought his posting right after the flip was weird he goes I hate you all then extends an olive branch? I feel like I cant read this guy though. CopCake Koshi - The way he handled the whisperer is so bizarre to me. What rayn did is what i expect a town member to do. his posting recently seems depressed which I don’t understand why. The recent the lynch tomorrow is koshi or palmar almost feels like a play to me. I haven't really felt koshis presence this game. Palmar I really think marv is being clouded by meta here. His posts don’t make sense to me and he doesn’t appear to be scum hunting. Tunneled Rayn for no reason despite rayn being obvious town imo and ignored any evidence. Has no time but was able to waste time making a fake case on dead rayn. Calls me mafia devoid of any reasoning. I don’t buy the drunk posting either. I don’t see scum hunting I see mafia. I feel like if you look at his town games he tends to more aggressive with people and confrontational. Jacob has some great points some better then others especially palmar voting for ve over oats especially when palmar has been lecturing about proper ways to play. I also think he somewhat broke the veil when we had our bromance moment about playing to win. Both Koshi and palmar have the thoughts this game is now a new mini almost feels like the pep talk they gave themselves after losing two mafia in the same cycle. So you’ve got the same bus theory that JSL has? I think you’re probably wrong about CC but your jrealous bit is making me want to reread him when I’m done catching up On March 13 2024 10:03 Rels wrote: I wonder. Now that VE flipped ]scum, her insistence on calling VE town looks like TMI to me If CopCake is scum, then DMB has to be town too. That's the 2 players she's treated as confirmed town throughout the last day Flipped scum? Weird mistake there. You went really hard in the paint to save her yesterday and all these posts of hers were out there in the open, sure VE’s alignment was not yet known, but why put herself in danger to save a townie? The more I think about her play from yesterday the more I think she’s town (despite hating the way she played). This is a weak angle and it’s made even worse by the fact that you were responsible for saving her. @Rels regarding my case on you, honestly dude, yes I missed the 2 two line posts you made suddenly clearing Palmar for dumbtelling. Your other two posts were asking Marv about it and simply saying “I don’t think it does.” I apologize for missing this as I was on like hour 9 of reading the thread that day. It was easy to miss amongst post #2451, #2462, #2474, #2479, #2508, #2546, #2583, #2586, #3733, #3795 #3961, #4182, #4697. I almost think it’s worse now that after all that pressure, you clear him for a “dumbtell” And now this is your response to all the pressure in the thread on Palmar currently: On March 13 2024 10:29 Rels wrote: Meh Despite all the good arguments, I really don't think Palmar dumbtells twice in the same post Maybe that's stupid and I'll look stupid, but that's too much On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote: Kind of lost I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario You. Voted. To. Save. Copcake. Wtf You literally said: On March 12 2024 10:43 Rels wrote: I think CopCake is town Ok I’m on 364, gonna post this now so it’s not one massive all of text and I need to take a quick break so this doesn’t become another Rels analysis since I just spent like half an hour in his filter. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
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CopCake
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On March 13 2024 09:11 iamperfection wrote: If i understand the game correctly mafia have to RB vivax and shoot either DP or Jacob. If something other then that happens reassess. If i die really reassess. My updated what i think posting now as i have to do something and might not be back before deadline so just in case a weird kill happens. Iamperfection innocent child. More townie then even those confirmed by mechanics JacobStrangelove Only way to be scum would be if he and DP were scum together which I consider to be almost impossible. DarthPunk He is town. Way too invested. The shoot mafia partner theory I put at less then .02 % Vivax He town. His insane muck up the thread that nobody with half a brain on mafia team would buy just posting too much no reason to doubt the claim. die_meatbaby - I think there are just some posts that show a tiny bit of critical thinking. Don’t think they would be capable of that as mafia. justanothertownie- Eh hard to say has some overly deffensive posts which suggest a scum mindset. Post #5588 stands out to me as being overly deffensive. Post 5525 is a list post which reaches no conclusion so not sure why it would be posted. Possible scum but i dont feel that strong about it. More recently had some posts where he was trying to figure stuff out I guess. Don’t feel too strong here. Meapak_Ziphh- I guess its possible to be scum but i dont know i think i can understand his posting especially at the time of the lynch in what he was doing. Also remembered the cake thing when i asked. Also some aggresiveness in his posting Rels- I kind of like the callout of jealous he had recently and also his analysis of what happened with DMB right at the deadline so possibly town. If cop is mafia ballsy play and if town seems unnecessary to me. i think possibly town. Jealous- I had a weird feels ever since he returned to the game. I thought his posting right after the flip was weird he goes I hate you all then extends an olive branch? I feel like I cant read this guy though. CopCake Koshi - The way he handled the whisperer is so bizarre to me. What rayn did is what i expect a town member to do. his posting recently seems depressed which I don’t understand why. The recent the lynch tomorrow is koshi or palmar almost feels like a play to me. I haven't really felt koshis presence this game. Palmar I really think marv is being clouded by meta here. His posts don’t make sense to me and he doesn’t appear to be scum hunting. Tunneled Rayn for no reason despite rayn being obvious town imo and ignored any evidence. Has no time but was able to waste time making a fake case on dead rayn. Calls me mafia devoid of any reasoning. I don’t buy the drunk posting either. I don’t see scum hunting I see mafia. I feel like if you look at his town games he tends to more aggressive with people and confrontational. Jacob has some great points some better then others especially palmar voting for ve over oats especially when palmar has been lecturing about proper ways to play. I also think he somewhat broke the veil when we had our bromance moment about playing to win. Both Koshi and palmar have the thoughts this game is now a new mini almost feels like the pep talk they gave themselves after losing two mafia in the same cycle. Gonna stop you right there but you have noticed there exist something timezones and people post according to them, right? Calling me scum because I didnt stay awake 24 hrs is like huh? I mean I know is just a point but you can say the same for Rels. People post according to their timezones. | ||
CopCake
4378 Posts
Btw I am catching up, I only checked if I havent died. I believed I did because I got a pm but instead I got masoned, what a privilege!! | ||
Jealous
10087 Posts
On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote: Exactly. If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing. Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker. Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks? | ||
CopCake
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CopCake
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On March 13 2024 10:03 Rels wrote: I wonder. Now that VE flipped scum, her insistence on calling VE town looks like TMI to me If CopCake is scum, then DMB has to be town too. That's the 2 players she's treated as confirmed town throughout the last day Ve flipped scum what | ||
CopCake
4378 Posts
On March 13 2024 10:34 Rels wrote: In the world of CopCake, she and DMB are confirmed town because DP said he was going to shoot them N2 and wasn't roleblocked. Checking DP's posts, he also mentioned he would shoot Palmar VE and I I have said many times and talked that if DP is town then in that world DMB is town. What are you talking about? | ||
CopCake
4378 Posts
On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote: Kind of lost I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario Dude wtf me and jelaous have been like grrr grrr you mean no you cant read no you this, no you that to the point of insanity | ||
DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote: Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks? It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks I’m phone posting so shortening sentences. | ||
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