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On March 13 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:34 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:31 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 13 2024 10:24 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 06:10 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 00:50 CopCake wrote: I am lynching Palmar tomorrow no matter what, is my duty as town to do so. Why? ??? CopCake, why would you lynch Palmar? He's confirmed town in your view, since DP said he would shoot him during N2. Well dp hit scum with his shot so obviously dp is now likely town what kinda a question is that? In the world of CopCake, she and DMB are confirmed town because DP said he was going to shoot them N2 and wasn't roleblocked. Checking DP's posts, he also mentioned he would shoot Palmar VE and I I have said many times and talked that if DP is town then in that world DMB is town. What are you talking about?
Do you really not understand what he is saying in that post you quoted
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On March 13 2024 11:14 Vivax wrote: I’m not sure about game integrity atp
I am reading and it seems like vanity fogs the logic
But idk how to read.
People just want me to fit an Agenda.
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On March 13 2024 11:17 DarthPunk wrote:I tend to Think that on a surface level shooting Jake over me implicates palmar and reduces the chance that cake is town. You can wifom that either way though. But the shot being jsl makes me think that scum want us to be thinking in this way. The fast votes on cake which people are likely to think I will support is giving me pause tbh. How on earth does it reduce the chance cake is town? This is mayor levels of bad WIFOM
On March 13 2024 11:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote: He’s treating her as confscum doesn’t make sense at all I'm not. CopCake is definitely not conf scum the way I thought VE was yesterday. But yeah, she's my strongest scumread I’m at loss for words
On March 13 2024 11:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:32 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 11:30 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:29 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 11:27 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote: He’s treating her as confscum doesn’t make sense at all I'm not. CopCake is definitely not conf scum the way I thought VE was yesterday. But yeah, she's my strongest scumread Let me atone for my sins ? Sounds like confscum coming from you. Why do I think you are lying but town ? This was just a jab towards me persuading iamperfection to switch yesterday, nothing to read there otherwise Or you are exploiting that DP wanted CC lynched so we don’t hit mafia in Mz and jealous ? If CC is town, I think I can make the case that I'm confirmed town by anyone that knows perfectly how I work as scum IE only me probably lol. But I can probably back it up with screenshots with some past scum chat if it comes to that VE in the game is always a free mislynch. No way he survives until the end of the game. He can and should be kept alive for as long as possible, it's impossible that he's not lynched at some point. CopCake is far from that. As scum, in the position of yesterday, I would never push for a VE lynch. CC being lynched was a way better scenario Little TMI on her flip methinks? And that second paragraph is just massive WIFOM. Rel’s flip from literally calling CC town yesterday to immediately trying to lynch her today is unbelievable and reinforcing my opinion she is town.
Ok I'm caught up, I'll tackle that reread of Palmar now.
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On March 13 2024 12:36 iamperfection wrote: Vivax the mafia had two choices. It was Jacob or dp. They choose Jacob. Trying to guess their reasons is going to be real hard. My guess They choose Jacob to set up palmar or to remove an anti palmar townie.
This is important, killing Jacob from a mafia perspective is important.
One of the options is to keep big boi DP alive to go against copcake.
Oh, a conspiracy theory?
Am I town Rels? I mean my conspiracy of people wanting to kill tfrel wasnt big enough? Or ponder why people didnt kill tts?
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On March 13 2024 12:42 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 12:40 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 12:38 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:32 Vivax wrote: And DP you are being too obtuse about Jealous and MZ for me to place any trust into you at this point. Your confidence interval is too fucking high my dude This is a hard game right now. You're ignoring evidence on Jealous. For two days. And it's not associative. You know how bad it looks for you if he flips scum here. If cop flips town what do we get? Nothing. If she flips scum? Nothing. I am probably the only person who has called Jealous potential mafia in this game. I have yet to see a good reason for him being town that isn't a vote on redchecks. I mean, to be fair, if Cop flips town then I look pretty dang bad and stupid, and iamp looks pretty good because then there would have been no point in him switching votes and painting a target on his back, right?
No, Iamp called me mafia for dumb reasons and he is the one who changed the hammer.
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On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote: [quote] Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game. Do you think he could be mafia? He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance. Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like? 1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup. In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations? Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks. You're gonna have to walk me through this. Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB? Exactly. If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing. Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker. Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks? It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks I’m phone posting so shortening sentences. Gotcha. And the only way you two are scum together is if you also decided to bus TTS.
Would be a pretty fucking legendary play though.
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Mz what exactly is difficult to understand about that post of mine you quoted..
Why do you need to call it wifom when I already said it was.
The conclusion to draw is that there is something to look at there.
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On March 13 2024 14:23 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote: [quote]
Do you think he could be mafia? He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance. Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like? 1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup. In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations? Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks. You're gonna have to walk me through this. Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB? Exactly. If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing. Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker. Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks? It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks I’m phone posting so shortening sentences. Gotcha. And the only way you two are scum together is if you also decided to bus TTS. Would be a pretty fucking legendary play though.
Correct.
And while it would be a big play it is also too dumb to plausible on a range of levels.
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On March 13 2024 14:22 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 12:42 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:40 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 12:38 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:32 Vivax wrote: And DP you are being too obtuse about Jealous and MZ for me to place any trust into you at this point. Your confidence interval is too fucking high my dude This is a hard game right now. You're ignoring evidence on Jealous. For two days. And it's not associative. You know how bad it looks for you if he flips scum here. If cop flips town what do we get? Nothing. If she flips scum? Nothing. I am probably the only person who has called Jealous potential mafia in this game. I have yet to see a good reason for him being town that isn't a vote on redchecks. I mean, to be fair, if Cop flips town then I look pretty dang bad and stupid, and iamp looks pretty good because then there would have been no point in him switching votes and painting a target on his back, right? No, Iamp called me mafia for dumb reasons and he is the one who changed the hammer. If you and VE are both town, scum!iamp has no need to switch votes at all because town would have died regardless.
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On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote: [quote] Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game. Do you think he could be mafia? He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance. Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like? 1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup. In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations? Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks. You're gonna have to walk me through this. Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB? Exactly. If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing. Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker. Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks? It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks I’m phone posting so shortening sentences.
Big boi, do you believe now you werent roleblocked because you were about to kill town?
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On March 13 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote: [quote]
Do you think he could be mafia? He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance. Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like? 1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup. In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations? Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks. You're gonna have to walk me through this. Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB? Exactly. If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing. Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker. Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks? It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks I’m phone posting so shortening sentences. Big boi, do you believe now you werent roleblocked because you were about to kill town?
Yeah I think it’s more likely. I think your alignment is really important because if you are town some people look way worse. Rels in particular also jealous to a certain extent.
If you are mafia, then koshi and perfection look worse for example.
What’s the most posts you ever had in a game cake?
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Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.
You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?
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On March 13 2024 14:29 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote: [quote] He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.
Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?
1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup. 2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.
In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?
Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though. Not unless he and I are mafia together, There are missing roleblocks. You're gonna have to walk me through this. Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB? Exactly. If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing. Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker. Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks? It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks I’m phone posting so shortening sentences. Big boi, do you believe now you werent roleblocked because you were about to kill town? Yeah I think it’s more likely. I think your alignment is really important because if you are town some people look way worse. Rels in particular also jealous to a certain extent. If you are mafia, then koshi and perfection look worse for example. What’s the most posts you ever had in a game cake?
I have like absolutely no idea.
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On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote: Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.
You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?
Who looks lock town in the way they handled your alignment?
Who maybe had tmi in your defense?
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On March 13 2024 14:32 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 14:29 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 14:25 CopCake wrote:On March 13 2024 14:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote: [quote]
Not unless he and I are mafia together,
There are missing roleblocks. You're gonna have to walk me through this. Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB? Exactly. If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing. Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker. Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks? It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks I’m phone posting so shortening sentences. Big boi, do you believe now you werent roleblocked because you were about to kill town? Yeah I think it’s more likely. I think your alignment is really important because if you are town some people look way worse. Rels in particular also jealous to a certain extent. If you are mafia, then koshi and perfection look worse for example. What’s the most posts you ever had in a game cake? I have like absolutely no idea.
Well right now you have 30 pages.
Is there a town game that has been close to this?
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On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote: Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.
You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who?
In that world is either koshi or Palmar.
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I’m worried about JAT not really doing anything, except policing the thread.
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On March 13 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote: Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.
You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who? In that world is either koshi or Palmar.
Koshi defended you most of the game right aside from a bit of flopping around at end of day?
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On March 13 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 14:32 DarthPunk wrote: Cake if you are town and you know you are town then there are some pretty obvious conclusions to draw from that.
You would have a team of Rels+jealous+ who? In that world is either koshi or Palmar.
Wait. What do you mean “in that world”?
In the world you are town?
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