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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 13 2024 03:58 GMT
#7421
@dp do you think vivax could be mafia?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10860 Posts
March 13 2024 04:01 GMT
#7422
On March 13 2024 12:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
@dp do you think vivax could be mafia?


I don't want to answer this yet. See what people say first.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 13 2024 04:03 GMT
#7423
On March 13 2024 13:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
@dp do you think vivax could be mafia?


I don't want to answer this yet. See what people say first.

Coward. What do you fear? Why not just answer?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10860 Posts
March 13 2024 04:07 GMT
#7424
On March 13 2024 13:03 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On March 13 2024 13:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
@dp do you think vivax could be mafia?


I don't want to answer this yet. See what people say first.

Coward. What do you fear? Why not just answer?


Ok fine.

I was trying to see if anyone would call him mafia because its basically a guarantee that they are mafia if they say that.

but now it is ruined.

No I don't think he is mafia that is dumb as hell.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10421 Posts
March 13 2024 04:16 GMT
#7425
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?

Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10860 Posts
March 13 2024 04:17 GMT
#7426
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?

Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10421 Posts
March 13 2024 04:27 GMT
#7427
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?

Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.

You're gonna have to walk me through this.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10860 Posts
March 13 2024 04:33 GMT
#7428
On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?

Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.

You're gonna have to walk me through this.


Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm

The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10421 Posts
March 13 2024 04:37 GMT
#7429
On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?

Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.

You're gonna have to walk me through this.


Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm

The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired

Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10860 Posts
March 13 2024 04:43 GMT
#7430
On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?

Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.

You're gonna have to walk me through this.


Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm

The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired

Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB?


Exactly.

If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo

He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing.

Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
March 13 2024 04:55 GMT
#7431
On March 13 2024 04:20 CopCake wrote:
Mmmmmmm

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On March 09 2024 16:36 Palmar wrote:
Voting results make VE kinda likely to be mafia too



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On March 12 2024 02:11 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 02:08 CopCake wrote:
I should have quoted with the strikes but yeah, phone posting.

Where is DMB?


Btw if you're town, remember your logic here in the post game.

Because it is strictly the incorrect way to play mafia. Vote count analysis is about the most useless thing you can do.

I'm not gonna argue about it now, but if you think someone is mafia, you should go read their filter and find out why they're mafia for what they said. Ideas like the one you have here is just bad play.




This is a great catch
On March 13 2024 06:44 iamperfection wrote:
Meapak have you come to a conclusion on palmar?

I’ll do that after I finish catching up, sorry been swamped.

On March 13 2024 07:04 JacobStrangelove wrote:
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On March 12 2024 23:22 Palmar wrote:
Starting some work:

For context, I've basically considered Rels a pseudo-lurker this game, but that may not be the correct take. Due the length of the game and my sporadic availability we may not have been in the thread at the same time much.

He basically hated the same post that I hated from TTS on day 1, which is a stance I wasn't aware of. I like that take, even if it's not impossible to make as mafia.

In the next few pages I think I agreed with most of what he was saying. I honestly think he just got hypnotized by my enormous balls and ended up getting mislead, but aside from attacking me, he wasn't actually bad in the early game.

I come away thinking he's less likely to be mafia than before, but this is just preliminary work.


Damn so you start looking into your reads and suddenly they're town can't find anything because maybe you're mafia?

Also Koshi's more than happy making complete 180 on various people without much backing it up and without using mason chat is mad sus ngl. Wonder if they're getting on a potential Palmer bus early.


To be clear, you’re looking at a scum read of both Palmar and Koshi? Do you really think scum would be bussing Palmar already?
On March 13 2024 07:36 Koshi wrote:
If I would have masoned anybody. I would have masoned MZ and try to work the game out with him and see what would have happened. But I simply cba to do outside stuff and only really considered it today and somewhere once during the 48 day phase.

Believe it or not.

Wish you had
On March 13 2024 08:04 iamperfection wrote:
If cop is town rels has to be town I would think right? Such an uncessary play if otherwise?

I am tryinig to work through the logic of Rels doing what he did as either alignment, it does draw so much attention to yourself. Especially since I thought about the game/stuff from D3’s lynch a fair bit while I was at work, I think I’m becoming more convinced she’s town again. But I don’t want to clear Rels just based off that.
On March 13 2024 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:
For the record - I think we should look into this pool for lynch tomorrow (no particular order):

CC
MZ
DMB

+ potentially Koshi (he fell off pretty badly since day1, maybe scum Koshi running out of juice? Could & should easily turn up the heat if he is town so some pressure here could be worth it)

I am not feeling the Palmar lynch/I don't think he is mafia.

This list is terrible and not just for the OMGUS factor, these people are lynchbait at this point and the fact that you are using this to defend Palmar is pinging me immediately. Also I very much disagree with the characterization of Koshi’s play.
On March 13 2024 09:06 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I mean my two big cases this game have been Koshi and palmer and I think they're together if so

Ok this is the second post you’ve made about this, I’ll be really interested to chat about this turbo bus theory.
On March 13 2024 09:11 iamperfection wrote:
If i understand the game correctly mafia have to RB vivax and shoot either DP or Jacob. If something other then that happens reassess. If i die really reassess. My updated what i think posting now as i have to do something and might not be back before deadline so just in case a weird kill happens.


Iamperfection innocent child. More townie then even those confirmed by mechanics

JacobStrangelove Only way to be scum would be if he and DP were scum together which I consider to be almost impossible.

DarthPunk He is town. Way too invested. The shoot mafia partner theory I put at less then .02 %

Vivax He town. His insane muck up the thread that nobody with half a brain on mafia team would buy just posting too much no reason to doubt the claim.

die_meatbaby - I think there are just some posts that show a tiny bit of critical thinking. Don’t think they would be capable of that as mafia.

justanothertownie- Eh hard to say has some overly deffensive posts which suggest a scum mindset. Post #5588 stands out to me as being overly deffensive. Post 5525 is a list post which reaches no conclusion so not sure why it would be posted. Possible scum but i dont feel that strong about it. More recently had some posts where he was trying to figure stuff out I guess. Don’t feel too strong here.


Meapak_Ziphh- I guess its possible to be scum but i dont know i think i can understand his posting especially at the time of the lynch in what he was doing. Also remembered the cake thing when i asked. Also some aggresiveness in his posting


Rels- I kind of like the callout of jealous he had recently and also his analysis of what happened with DMB right at the deadline so possibly town. If cop is mafia ballsy play and if town seems unnecessary to me. i think possibly town.


Jealous- I had a weird feels ever since he returned to the game. I thought his posting right after the flip was weird he goes I hate you all then extends an olive branch? I feel like I cant read this guy though.




CopCake tried to cheat so town. For you dummies that don’t read the thread brought information that rayn was laughing at the post confirming he was having said good time at a point when people were trying to determine his alignment. Fuck my cheating analysis scratch all that the late voting seems awfully suspicious to me as it seemed almost like a scum that wasn’t following the game state voted the wrong person and then had to move it back to scum. Plus the majority of posting is just half baked conspiracy theories also was right around posting for the lynch but then disappears for the flip like come on. Almost seems like a mission failed we’ll get them next time to me scum. I still think its possible to be mafia. keeps on bringing up irrelevant stuff like oats wanted to make trfel mafia which i dont understand why that would ping to anyone.


Koshi - The way he handled the whisperer is so bizarre to me. What rayn did is what i expect a town member to do. his posting recently seems depressed which I don’t understand why. The recent the lynch tomorrow is koshi or palmar almost feels like a play to me. I haven't really felt koshis presence this game.


Palmar I really think marv is being clouded by meta here. His posts don’t make sense to me and he doesn’t appear to be scum hunting. Tunneled Rayn for no reason despite rayn being obvious town imo and ignored any evidence. Has no time but was able to waste time making a fake case on dead rayn. Calls me mafia devoid of any reasoning. I don’t buy the drunk posting either. I don’t see scum hunting I see mafia. I feel like if you look at his town games he tends to more aggressive with people and confrontational. Jacob has some great points some better then others especially palmar voting for ve over oats especially when palmar has been lecturing about proper ways to play. I also think he somewhat broke the veil when we had our bromance moment about playing to win. Both Koshi and palmar have the thoughts this game is now a new mini almost feels like the pep talk they gave themselves after losing two mafia in the same cycle.

So you’ve got the same bus theory that JSL has? I think you’re probably wrong about CC but your jrealous bit is making me want to reread him when I’m done catching up

On March 13 2024 10:03 Rels wrote:
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On March 12 2024 15:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yeah mafia is Palmer, Koshi, easy not sure on last

Cc is town because playing so drastically against win con as scum when you know ve is town is dumb.

It was scummy before but now we know VE is town Cc is town.

I wonder. Now that VE flipped ]scum, her insistence on calling VE town looks like TMI to me
If CopCake is scum, then DMB has to be town too. That's the 2 players she's treated as confirmed town throughout the last day


Flipped scum? Weird mistake there. You went really hard in the paint to save her yesterday and all these posts of hers were out there in the open, sure VE’s alignment was not yet known, but why put herself in danger to save a townie? The more I think about her play from yesterday the more I think she’s town (despite hating the way she played). This is a weak angle and it’s made even worse by the fact that you were responsible for saving her.

@Rels regarding my case on you, honestly dude, yes I missed the 2 two line posts you made suddenly clearing Palmar for dumbtelling. Your other two posts were asking Marv about it and simply saying “I don’t think it does.” I apologize for missing this as I was on like hour 9 of reading the thread that day. It was easy to miss amongst post #2451, #2462, #2474, #2479, #2508, #2546, #2583, #2586, #3733, #3795 #3961, #4182, #4697. I almost think it’s worse now that after all that pressure, you clear him for a “dumbtell”
And now this is your response to all the pressure in the thread on Palmar currently:
On March 13 2024 10:29 Rels wrote:
Meh
Despite all the good arguments, I really don't think Palmar dumbtells twice in the same post
Maybe that's stupid and I'll look stupid, but that's too much


On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario

You. Voted. To. Save. Copcake.
Wtf
You literally said:
On March 12 2024 10:43 Rels wrote:
I think CopCake is town


Ok I’m on 364, gonna post this now so it’s not one massive all of text and I need to take a quick break so this doesn’t become another Rels analysis since I just spent like half an hour in his filter.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
March 13 2024 05:00 GMT
#7432
Oh Jacob is dead. RIP, I guess I won't get to learn about the turbo bus theory unless iamp are you still thinking on the same lines?
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:00 GMT
#7433
On March 13 2024 09:11 iamperfection wrote:
If i understand the game correctly mafia have to RB vivax and shoot either DP or Jacob. If something other then that happens reassess. If i die really reassess. My updated what i think posting now as i have to do something and might not be back before deadline so just in case a weird kill happens.


Iamperfection innocent child. More townie then even those confirmed by mechanics

JacobStrangelove Only way to be scum would be if he and DP were scum together which I consider to be almost impossible.

DarthPunk He is town. Way too invested. The shoot mafia partner theory I put at less then .02 %

Vivax He town. His insane muck up the thread that nobody with half a brain on mafia team would buy just posting too much no reason to doubt the claim.

die_meatbaby - I think there are just some posts that show a tiny bit of critical thinking. Don’t think they would be capable of that as mafia.

justanothertownie- Eh hard to say has some overly deffensive posts which suggest a scum mindset. Post #5588 stands out to me as being overly deffensive. Post 5525 is a list post which reaches no conclusion so not sure why it would be posted. Possible scum but i dont feel that strong about it. More recently had some posts where he was trying to figure stuff out I guess. Don’t feel too strong here.


Meapak_Ziphh- I guess its possible to be scum but i dont know i think i can understand his posting especially at the time of the lynch in what he was doing. Also remembered the cake thing when i asked. Also some aggresiveness in his posting


Rels- I kind of like the callout of jealous he had recently and also his analysis of what happened with DMB right at the deadline so possibly town. If cop is mafia ballsy play and if town seems unnecessary to me. i think possibly town.


Jealous- I had a weird feels ever since he returned to the game. I thought his posting right after the flip was weird he goes I hate you all then extends an olive branch? I feel like I cant read this guy though.




CopCake tried to cheat so town. For you dummies that don’t read the thread brought information that rayn was laughing at the post confirming he was having said good time at a point when people were trying to determine his alignment. Fuck my cheating analysis scratch all that the late voting seems awfully suspicious to me as it seemed almost like a scum that wasn’t following the game state voted the wrong person and then had to move it back to scum. Plus the majority of posting is just half baked conspiracy theories also was right around posting for the lynch but then disappears for the flip like come on. Almost seems like a mission failed we’ll get them next time to me scum. I still think its possible to be mafia. keeps on bringing up irrelevant stuff like oats wanted to make trfel mafia which i dont understand why that would ping to anyone.


Koshi - The way he handled the whisperer is so bizarre to me. What rayn did is what i expect a town member to do. his posting recently seems depressed which I don’t understand why. The recent the lynch tomorrow is koshi or palmar almost feels like a play to me. I haven't really felt koshis presence this game.


Palmar I really think marv is being clouded by meta here. His posts don’t make sense to me and he doesn’t appear to be scum hunting. Tunneled Rayn for no reason despite rayn being obvious town imo and ignored any evidence. Has no time but was able to waste time making a fake case on dead rayn. Calls me mafia devoid of any reasoning. I don’t buy the drunk posting either. I don’t see scum hunting I see mafia. I feel like if you look at his town games he tends to more aggressive with people and confrontational. Jacob has some great points some better then others especially palmar voting for ve over oats especially when palmar has been lecturing about proper ways to play. I also think he somewhat broke the veil when we had our bromance moment about playing to win. Both Koshi and palmar have the thoughts this game is now a new mini almost feels like the pep talk they gave themselves after losing two mafia in the same cycle.


Gonna stop you right there but you have noticed there exist something timezones and people post according to them, right?

Calling me scum because I didnt stay awake 24 hrs is like huh? I mean I know is just a point but you can say the same for Rels. People post according to their timezones.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:02 GMT
#7434
You are also calling me Mafia but want to push Palmar? Huh…

Btw I am catching up, I only checked if I havent died.

I believed I did because I got a pm but instead I got masoned, what a privilege!!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10421 Posts
March 13 2024 05:02 GMT
#7435
On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?

Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.

You're gonna have to walk me through this.


Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm

The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired

Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB?


Exactly.

If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo

He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing.

Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker.

Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks?
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:02 GMT
#7436
Btw iamp you think I am mafia but votef VE? Eh
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:04 GMT
#7437
On March 13 2024 10:03 Rels wrote:
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On March 12 2024 15:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yeah mafia is Palmer, Koshi, easy not sure on last

Cc is town because playing so drastically against win con as scum when you know ve is town is dumb.

It was scummy before but now we know VE is town Cc is town.

I wonder. Now that VE flipped scum, her insistence on calling VE town looks like TMI to me
If CopCake is scum, then DMB has to be town too. That's the 2 players she's treated as confirmed town throughout the last day


Ve flipped scum what
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:06 GMT
#7438
On March 13 2024 10:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 10:31 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 13 2024 10:24 Rels wrote:
On March 13 2024 06:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 00:50 CopCake wrote:
I am lynching Palmar tomorrow no matter what, is my duty as town to do so.


Why?

??? CopCake, why would you lynch Palmar? He's confirmed town in your view, since DP said he would shoot him during N2.


Well dp hit scum with his shot so obviously dp is now likely town what kinda a question is that?

In the world of CopCake, she and DMB are confirmed town because DP said he was going to shoot them N2 and wasn't roleblocked.
Checking DP's posts, he also mentioned he would shoot Palmar VE and I


I have said many times and talked that if DP is town then in that world DMB is town.

What are you talking about?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 13 2024 05:08 GMT
#7439
On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario


Dude wtf me and jelaous have been like grrr grrr you mean no you cant read no you this, no you that to the point of insanity
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10860 Posts
March 13 2024 05:09 GMT
#7440
On March 13 2024 14:02 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:37 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:27 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:52 Jealous wrote:
On March 13 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax if jealous is town what then?

Assuming Vivax is successful in getting me mislynched D4, then he's been on a town wagon a confirmed 3 times out of 4, with the jury still out on CopCake, and is either scum or really, really bad this game.


Do you think he could be mafia?

He's been a default TR for me for so long since his D1 claim that I haven't bothered to see if it was mathematically/logically possible. Assuming it is, then there is always a non-0 chance.

Like, what would a scum!Vivax world look like?

1. Claims JK and doesn't get cc'd because there is no JK in this setup.
2. If he's JK, then there has to be a scum RB to RB him every night, which is why he hasn't been able to save anyone as far as we can tell, right? But if he's not JK, then there is no longer that necessity in the setup.

In this world, scum!Vivax made an absurd D1 play, and then keeps doing relatively absurd things like not voting to lynch what we now know is cop!Slam's reveal of a scum!Oats and instead helping the wagon of town!VE, then flip-flops between town!VE and (I guess in this world we have to assume?) town!CopCake before parking his vote on CopCake... Because he has a tendency to be erratic so it would be NAI and he thinks that his D1 play will give him enough town cred to shrug off any accusations?

Unless I'm missing something, it's theoretically possible, right? Still feels unlikely, though.


Not unless he and I are mafia together,

There are missing roleblocks.

You're gonna have to walk me through this.


Well assuming they have a roleblocker over a strongarm

The fact that I got a shot off means that vivax has to be a jail keeper unless from your perspective we are paired

Vivax says he jailed Slam, so if Vivax gets RB'd, Slam and marv die to 2 Mafia KP, and you get your shot off on TTS, no? Where is the missing RB?


Exactly.

If vivax is mafia why was he roleblocked? And not me? Ergo

He is not mafia. Because if he was a roleblock is missing.

Unless you think we are partnered or you think it is likely there is no roleblocker.

Got it. So then I must have misunderstood what you meant when you said "there are missing roleblocks" because now you're saying there aren't any missing roleblocks?


It’s context. if you think vivax is mafia there are missing roleblocks

I’m phone posting so shortening sentences.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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