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CopCake
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DarthPunk
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Like Koshi is your mafia read and you are asking why he was not killed by mafia. | ||
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On March 13 2024 15:57 CopCake wrote: Why didnt mafia kill them? Or any other? Because they were not confirmed town, or they like the directions they were pushing, or they were potential lynch candidates or both. I am really trying to think about the game like you are town right now but fuck you make it hard. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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On March 09 2024 07:01 Palmar wrote: God I'm so lazy and bad at this game. This sums up my read of Palmar tonight. On March 06 2024 06:54 Palmar wrote: As for other people. I stand by the sandroba townread, koshi is probably town too. I like Oats a lot more now for actually making sense. I also like JSL and Vivax. I'd need VE to actually step up some again, same with Trfel. I had some reads on both but they're weak. DMB is also a weak maybe townread. iamperfection is making sense, but the guy is smart enough to make sense when there is no pressure on him as either alignment. DP is a little more wildcardy to me this game, I haven't always agreed with his takes. TTS, JEalous, Hapa just need to be policied out. I've not read or even noticed Rels at all which is a bad omen. rayn is weird to me. I'm again getting the feeling that he's just posting a lot and saying very little, also I really, really don't like that he's not pressuring marv at all in the mason QT it seems. Idk about CopCake, nothjin one way or the other. MZ looks kinda bad, but it's very weak as I haven't really read him. MZ bad but haven’t read him On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote: I'm finalizing here. I like a bunch of mafia in: rayn jat rels mz tts then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy vivax trfel hapa then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve iamp marv jealous copcake slam ve and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town sandro oats dp dmb jls koshi None of the lists are in any particular order I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. I’m in his mafia category On March 09 2024 07:11 Palmar wrote: Essentially it comes down to: I really need to filter dive CopCake, DMB, MZ, Rels and JSL because there's like 3 mafia in there. One is probably either Oats or Slam, unless we're just the unluckiest town in the world. Also if Slam and Vivax are genuinely town and both claimed on day 1, we deserve to lose. There's gonna be a hidden mafia there somewhere. MZ in the Mafia but have to filter dive category On March 09 2024 07:30 Palmar wrote: MZ doesn't look great in our topic. But to be fair, neither do I cause I don't talk to him. More MZ not great On March 10 2024 20:21 Palmar wrote: There is 3 mafia in mz/rels/jat/iamp/ve MZ again On March 10 2024 20:56 Palmar wrote: I actually think we should be lynching MZ as an alternative Lynch MZ On March 11 2024 19:22 Palmar wrote: Lol this doesn't matter for now. To put the game in perspective, we're basically in a normal 13 player game of town vs mafia. 10 town, 3 mafia. But we have two VERY likely "blue checks" (you and DP). We also have like 200 pages of bullshit that can be parsed. We're in a great position. We can mislynch 3 times and still be in the game. The current state of the game demands simple playing. We're not in lylo, we're not even close to lylo. We should not be tinfoiling for hidden mafia. We need to be killing the people who have stereotypical scum characteristics, and first and foremost amongst them is VE. He is not interested in the game, isn't helping to solve it, seems to not be enjoying playing etc. Consider it a pseudo policy lynch, which is almost always a good idea in day 1 on a normal game. I can't stress enough how important it's to just keep a happy disposition. We're in a stronger than expected position. There is no need to panic, just calmly keep analyzing the game. The one weakness of the game is that very little information can be gained from the last 2 days because they have been semi-default lynches. Which is another reason why resolving VE is great for the state of the game. I'll happily reconsider if VE starts looking supertown. Also to answer your question... MZ and JAT? MZ with a big old question mark On March 12 2024 00:54 Palmar wrote: By the way I think CC should not be lynched and have a slight townread. I understand the waffling and self-doubt and giving up can be faked, but it still is more likely to come from town than scum. I also think dmb sounds a lot more reasonable this game than last game. For one reason or another, I'm not really considering the following people right now: dp jls koshi cc dmb vivax Then there's like two people I just need to actually get off my ass and read jealous iamp rels and then there's the people I actively think could be mafia jat mz ve Remember, to me I'm really thinking about the game as a "day 1" situation where we have plenty of time and mislynches left. I am not really questioning weaker townreads and tinfoil theories at the moment, there is no need to. Oh boy guess who’s scum again On March 12 2024 23:39 Palmar wrote: Still don't like MZ, but again, it's just preliminary filtering, not a full read. I have been Palmar’s main scumread most of the game and he has done literally nothing about it. Every single time he calls me scum, he caveats his read so that while I’m his number one choice, he’s always got a reason why he’s not sure, maybe he just puts a question mark there or maybe it’s because he hasn’t read my filter, or maybe he needs to reread me. We're all busy but it's D3 and he's still using these excuses. He’s used every reason possible to not actually stand behind his scumread of me, push his scumread of me, or do anything but sheep along with whatever wagon that’s been convenient for the last 2 days. He is not actually serious about this read. It gets lost in the churn of the thread since he hasn’t been very active but it’s painfully clear when you read his filter. I think he keeps expecting to come back to the thread and for there to be a wagon on me that he can hop on and push but then have plausible deniability because he won't have been the primary push for me despite shading me the entire game. I think Palmar is scum with Rels, tbd who their teammate is at the moment. I have a part 2 of this analysis which is going to look at the connections between those two but that’s gonna have to wait bc its way past my bedtime and I have work tomorrow. | ||
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Jealous
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On March 13 2024 15:58 DarthPunk wrote: Because they were not confirmed town, or they like the directions they were pushing, or they were potential lynch candidates or both. I am really trying to think about the game like you are town right now but fuck you make it hard. What do you find when you think like she's scum? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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CopCake
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On March 13 2024 15:57 DarthPunk wrote: FFS cake are you scum claiming here again. Like Koshi is your mafia read and you are asking why he was not killed by mafia. No, the answer here is Koshi didnt get killed because he is mafia. Why is it so difficult to understand me? Do i phrase things weirdly or something? I am just asking you those questions to see if we go to the same conclusions. | ||
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CopCake
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If you have questions go ahead. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 13 2024 16:04 CopCake wrote: No, the answer here is Koshi didnt get killed because he is mafia. Why is it so difficult to understand me? Do i phrase things weirdly or something? I am just asking you those questions to see if we go to the same conclusions. I don't think if Koshi is mafia it is because he didn't killed this night. Jacob was a totally reasonable night kill here. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 13 2024 16:00 Jealous wrote: What do you find when you think like she's scum? You are not mafia in that case imo. Koshi maybe still, rels less likely but still possible. The problem if she flips mafia only really you and I look better. Its better for solving if she is town in a way. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 13 2024 17:05 DarthPunk wrote: You are not mafia in that case imo. Koshi maybe still, rels less likely but still possible. The problem if she flips mafia only really you and I look better. Its better for solving if she is town in a way. And DMB. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote: yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment) As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane) This posts strikes me as really townie. Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 13 2024 01:28 die_meatbaby wrote: this post confuse me. why not arguing with me about why I think you are scum and trying to change my mind? Why putting yourself up to a lynchwagon? Or are you just lazy mafia? Good post. | ||
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DarthPunk
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DarthPunk
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With the multiple wagons forming on her from oats, the weird oats vote. DMB looking town in her own right, plus meta differences. She is just lock town to me now. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 13 2024 10:03 Rels wrote: I wonder. Now that VE flipped scum, her insistence on calling VE town looks like TMI to me If CopCake is scum, then DMB has to be town too. That's the 2 players she's treated as confirmed town throughout the last day Good post. | ||
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DarthPunk
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But I think cake is more likely mafia than rels. | ||
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DarthPunk
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I still think perfection is town still. He is being lazy but his big posts are good. | ||
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CopCake
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DP is not Clear town. The jacob kill also helps mafiaDP to be like “hohohohoho see Jacob gave me a gun I am so town” I really, really tried to work with DP but he just doesnt want to do it, he pretends but he doesnt. Why can I work with people like HF and Rayn when we are all town? Even when we have differences we try to listen to each other and figure out the game using the smartness and the logic of those two and my super ability of town reading ENFJ powers. Like seriously, if you are town why dont you want to work with me? If you are town you should see this world only: if mafia didnt block you when you killed TTS if for a reason. Go ahead, lynch me once me. But I decree when I flip that DP is NOT clearly town. I must be clearly the mafia with the biggest fucking balls in the whole universe. I tried to live in the world you were town, I even wanted to bond as bros and that is why I brought Bluey in the thread so we could talk about it because I fucking love that show and I read you like it, but yeah. | ||
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