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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2023 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: that being said the thing between DP and Cake is so convoluted i can't comprehend even when reading their filters... Make it easier to understand if you think one is mafia pls. Thank you, I’m glad it’s not just me (and I am having the benefit of reading it all together) | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 10 2023 04:28 Hapahauli wrote: Reading the thread again, and if there’s anything that sticks out to me as suspicious it is the MZ entrance post I previously referenced. I have bolded everything substantive and italicized everything useless. A lot of words that are designed to look good but are not. Very much yes but I’m wary of my d1 lynch last time. Hard not to be triggered by that post nonetheless | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 10 2023 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Does it bother you other people like marv say i am angry? You did seem angrier than last game at the beginning. But you have settled down since so I’m no longer interested in that | ||
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DarthPunk
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And that just doesn't make any sense at all at the point of the game she ostensibly had it. Even if there was a small town read on rayn, her read progression and level of aggression still doesn't make sense, nor feel natural. I can't get over this point, and I wonder how others can? | ||
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DarthPunk
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On June 10 2023 17:20 DarthPunk wrote: The thing with copcake is that her level of aggression and tunneling towards me only makes sense if there is a really strong town read on Rayn as a basis for it. And that just doesn't make any sense at all at the point of the game she ostensibly had it. Even if there was a small town read on rayn, her read progression and level of aggression still doesn't make sense, nor feel natural. I can't get over this point, and I wonder how others can? And then it was really hard to get her to answer: what alignment she thought rayn was, and why she thought rayn was town. | ||
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DarthPunk
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None of this really sits well with me. | ||
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marvellosity
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DarthPunk
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On June 10 2023 17:22 marvellosity wrote: Just worth noting LS’ filter is already as long as the previous game. Reading rayn’s suspicions towards him. Don’t fancy that at all Easiest way to adjust is to sheep other players, have to look deeper than this IMO, especially when your scum play gets rolled the last time. But yes, this is the only point in his favor right now. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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Last game, he posted little and managed to throw his position hard, not just look scummy as predicted by his meta. This game he's posting a lot, so I think we get to be confident in catching him if he stays around. But LS, this is conditional on you continuing to post a lot, and you need to post your reads that come from you. You keep regurgitating what other people say, or asking questions that are already answered. I need to see you looking. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On June 10 2023 17:30 TankTopTiger wrote: It's the only point in his favour, but IMO it's a big point. Last game, he posted little and managed to throw his position hard, not just look scummy as predicted by his meta. This game he's posting a lot, so I think we get to be confident in catching him if he stays around. But LS, this is conditional on you continuing to post a lot, and you need to post your reads that come from you. You keep regurgitating what other people say, or asking questions that are already answered. I need to see you looking. The other difference was last game his activity increased dramatically with the levels of suspicion levelled against him, which came later. This game it started right away so he feels in the hot seat and can’t coast. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On June 10 2023 17:30 TankTopTiger wrote: It's the only point in his favour, but IMO it's a big point. Last game, he posted little and managed to throw his position hard, not just look scummy as predicted by his meta. This game he's posting a lot, so I think we get to be confident in catching him if he stays around. But LS, this is conditional on you continuing to post a lot, and you need to post your reads that come from you. You keep regurgitating what other people say, or asking questions that are already answered. I need to see you looking. What you think of that vivax post? Just completely not reading the thread? | ||
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marvellosity
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Hapa tonally looked okay but I expected a bit more drive from him. Copcake I thought fought her corner pretty consistently even though I wasn’t entirely sure what was going on. It’s not the same but reminded me how DMB was just always there d1 even when under heavy suspicion, last game. Bunch of other mild (and even a strong or two) townreads but not worth talking about these now, especially as I’m unlikely to be able to respond as I’d like | ||
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marvellosity
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DarthPunk
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On June 10 2023 17:42 marvellosity wrote: I’m most suspicious of MZ and Hapa, which given one of Hapa’s only posts was to highlight suspicion on MZ, feels a bit weird. rayn, I don’t characterise MZ as having similar reads to you as a good reason to like him. I’m very wary of feeling too strong about it given last time though. Hapa tonally looked okay but I expected a bit more drive from him. Copcake I thought fought her corner pretty consistently even though I wasn’t entirely sure what was going on. It’s not the same but reminded me how DMB was just always there d1 even when under heavy suspicion, last game. Bunch of other mild (and even a strong or two) townreads but not worth talking about these now, especially as I’m unlikely to be able to respond as I’d like This is a good read imo. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote: On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it. His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake. I‘d also add that the way rayn followed into DPs footsteps in regards to Cake felt forced and hedgy. Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on. With that in mind and them not giving off the same energy as last game where at least rayn seemed like an easy townlean, Cake gets my axe for wagonomical reasons til I get to decide if rayn isn‘t a better lynch for the way he got smacked into submission by DP. ##Vote DarthPunk Something about Ttts entrance also rubbed me the wrong way as it felt like they were evaluating the dp-cop interaction from the sidelines as an opener that suggested they wanted to play it safe. His reading comprehension is very poor, but that's the case for everyone thus far I think (you and myself included DP). I find it odd how he went straight to the lynch off something he hadn't even read properly. Like... I respect going after bigger players, but he just attacked the two strongest players D1 and that's just never going to happen. Last game, I started my campaign on D2 on Marv, got substantial traction D3, and managed to finally mislynch him D4 with DP's help. This is sort of the "best case" scenario for lynching a stronger player. Having that strong a conviction D1, doesn't feel right, but I don't know Vivax. To me it feels like a parking play where he doesn't really have to engage at all after making the "case". | ||
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TankTopTiger
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*LS asked for opinions on the CC vs DP drama being forced, when opinions on this had already been posted *When pressured, LS said that one of CC or DP was forcing the convo, but couldn't tell which one, only that it was red vs. green | ||
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CopCake
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On June 10 2023 08:54 TankTopTiger wrote: Sorry, can you spell it out for me, what is the question DP hasn't answered that Rayn quoted? What is the mistake that Rayn made that DP knew about? Why slam is mafia. It is weird now that LS understood but you didnt. Who else has this problem about the copcake - dp? | ||
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DarthPunk
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On June 10 2023 17:50 TankTopTiger wrote: This one? His reading comprehension is very poor, but that's the case for everyone thus far I think (you and myself included DP). I find it odd how he went straight to the lynch off something he hadn't even read properly. Like... I respect going after bigger players, but he just attacked the two strongest players D1 and that's just never going to happen. Last game, I started my campaign on D2 on Marv, got substantial traction D3, and managed to finally mislynch him D4 with DP's help. This is sort of the "best case" scenario for lynching a stronger player. Having that strong a conviction D1, doesn't feel right, but I don't know Vivax. To me it feels like a parking play where he doesn't really have to engage at all after making the "case". If the bolded is true what do you think that means about his alignment? | ||
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CopCake
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Honestly, I have answered this, I said that after what happened last game, which my 6th sense told me “rayn is mafia” I decided not to make the same mistake IN GAME. What is the best thing a town cake needs to do? Correct her mistakes and play better. My focus on DP went how fast he jumped on me with the “ooofff” comment. | ||
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