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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 10 2023 01:28 GMT
#581
On June 10 2023 09:23 TankTopTiger wrote:
I caught up but haven't processed it really, so I'm going back and reading it again. The thread is moving superfast IMO, much faster than last game. This will be good later when we have hard info to interpret today's events, but for now it's lurchy aggro in every direction.

+ I'm being town-read a lot, and I don't really understand why.
+ DP is different to last game but I want him to explain that.
+ I like the vibe of Haps approach.
+ MZ comes across as similar to last game where he was town.



180ing the bolded MZ take. The post I attributed to him was actually Vivax.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 01:45 GMT
#582
On June 10 2023 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.

You got mail?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 01:48 GMT
#583
On June 09 2023 21:23 Vayoletta wrote:
Heyooo party people! I’m spending my entire day at an amusement park today and have like no time to play, so y’all need to just deal with it.

Hey hey hey! When you get back, I will hand deliver you your mail.

Welcome to New Liquidia!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22027 Posts
June 10 2023 01:49 GMT
#584
On June 10 2023 10:45 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.

You got mail?


Kind of. Appears to be a shoe on my fence.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 01:51 GMT
#585
On June 10 2023 10:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 10:45 Chezinu wrote:
On June 10 2023 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.

You got mail?


Kind of. Appears to be a shoe on my fence.

Did someone dare throw a shoe at you and miss?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22027 Posts
June 10 2023 01:55 GMT
#586
On June 10 2023 10:51 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 10:49 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 10:45 Chezinu wrote:
On June 10 2023 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.

You got mail?


Kind of. Appears to be a shoe on my fence.

Did someone dare throw a shoe at you and miss?


It‘s a small shoe with Daisy (from disney) on it.
Ngl that‘s better than a rocket
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 01:58 GMT
#587
On June 10 2023 10:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 10:51 Chezinu wrote:
On June 10 2023 10:49 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 10:45 Chezinu wrote:
On June 10 2023 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.

You got mail?


Kind of. Appears to be a shoe on my fence.

Did someone dare throw a shoe at you and miss?


It‘s a small shoe with Daisy (from disney) on it.
Ngl that‘s better than a rocket

Does it smell?
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 13 2019 12:11 Vivax wrote:
Upon further inspection of the Brown Bombers manifest, I have also not been able to notice maliciousness, rather than a constant state of confusion with intermittent periods of normality. Even noticing my name in it in a manner that looked like a death threat, I have attributed it to the belief that his intention was not to kill me for believing I was a killer in the night, but rather in order to rank up in the OP.

Your scrutiny of the claims that the brown bomber being alive is only due to the fact that he himself is a killer in the night is convincing me to campaign to delay his execution. My interest for today's execution is instead slowly shifting to a smelly pipe I have for far too long endured.
I have been wondering where this foul odor that has been plaguing the town was coming from, and have realized that it smelled like my shoes after a long day of trekking.

Upon gazing into the pipe and being greeted by pitch black darkness, I was also assailed by a foul smell of rotting flesh and old socks. I suspect the nightly disappearances are being hoarded in there by a vile creature that I had the liberty of coining tubesock.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22027 Posts
June 10 2023 02:09 GMT
#588
On June 10 2023 10:58 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 10:55 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 10:51 Chezinu wrote:
On June 10 2023 10:49 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 10:45 Chezinu wrote:
On June 10 2023 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.

You got mail?


Kind of. Appears to be a shoe on my fence.

Did someone dare throw a shoe at you and miss?


It‘s a small shoe with Daisy (from disney) on it.
Ngl that‘s better than a rocket

Does it smell?
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 13 2019 12:11 Vivax wrote:
Upon further inspection of the Brown Bombers manifest, I have also not been able to notice maliciousness, rather than a constant state of confusion with intermittent periods of normality. Even noticing my name in it in a manner that looked like a death threat, I have attributed it to the belief that his intention was not to kill me for believing I was a killer in the night, but rather in order to rank up in the OP.

Your scrutiny of the claims that the brown bomber being alive is only due to the fact that he himself is a killer in the night is convincing me to campaign to delay his execution. My interest for today's execution is instead slowly shifting to a smelly pipe I have for far too long endured.
I have been wondering where this foul odor that has been plaguing the town was coming from, and have realized that it smelled like my shoes after a long day of trekking.

Upon gazing into the pipe and being greeted by pitch black darkness, I was also assailed by a foul smell of rotting flesh and old socks. I suspect the nightly disappearances are being hoarded in there by a vile creature that I had the liberty of coining tubesock.


I‘m not interested in smelling shoes. They probably stink like the rest of the place behind the veil of order, wealth and alienating indifference.

Drones gotta drone but occasionally an ultralisk spawns along a stinky
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 10 2023 02:11 GMT
#589
@Slam
On June 09 2023 20:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
Slam, you talk about statistics regarding why LS is town.

What statistics? What is your expectation for ScumLS and how did LS break them?

TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 10 2023 02:12 GMT
#590
@LS Why is your vote on Rayn? Have you cased him at any point?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 10 2023 02:16 GMT
#591
On June 10 2023 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS + Cake + idk ez game



On June 10 2023 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
not vivax
not slam
not mebaby
not hapa
maybe not DP

who knows...


You made these posts while having a vote on Chez. Why would you not consider Chez in the scum team if you'd only just voted for him?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2023 02:20 GMT
#592
Session is on a break at the moment:
On June 10 2023 11:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
@LS Why is your vote on Rayn? Have you cased him at any point?

I haven't voted anyone?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 10 2023 02:26 GMT
#593
Ah, I'm an idiot who misread the vote. Ignore that line of questioning. Sorry!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 10 2023 02:35 GMT
#594
On June 10 2023 08:55 TankTopTiger wrote:
@DP
Did you decide to approach this game differently and if so how?


Extremely time limited and not driven by anxiety as discussed last game.

I’ll have time to post tonight
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 02:52 GMT
#595
On June 10 2023 11:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 08:55 TankTopTiger wrote:
@DP
Did you decide to approach this game differently and if so how?


Extremely time limited and not driven by anxiety as discussed last game.

I’ll have time to post tonight

Awesome. How do you like my depiction of you?

What it accurate or is it more like this?

[image loading]
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 10 2023 03:08 GMT
#596
First things first, when I type TL.net into my browser it takes me to marv's filter from last game which is indicative of how many times I read him trying to figure things out lol.

Second, I'm a bottle of wine deep for personal reasons so apologies for any misspellings or other grammatical issues.

Finally, let's get to LS

On June 09 2023 21:03 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is there anything else you like or don't like LS, aside from the people you mentioned?

TTT seems likely town given how they played last game. Also I do got you town as well so far. Outside of that though nothing really catches out to me at the moment.

Ok fine, it's early, not gonna hate you for nothing catching your eye

On June 09 2023 21:41 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:21 Chezinu wrote:
Vivax, Slam, DMB

Slam kill TTT this time.

Is this the red squad mr. mailman?

I do hope he answers this so we can figure what that post actually means.

I'm going to do my best not to sound super sarcastic when I right this but come on, it's chez "I hope he answers so we figure out what it means?" Like what does it mean to you dude? Why highlight this? It's chez who the fuck knows what it means? This post serves no purpose

I should pause here and explain how I think, I write these posts knowing what my gut says based on what I've read previously in the thread but I don't go in with a conclusion in mind. If LS brings attention to Chez again and continues this line of inquiry I will stop finding this post suspicious.

On June 09 2023 21:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:43 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 18:29 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:04 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….


No, early game i called him maf and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story.


Err... Just gonna pipe in here. Copcake you switched on and off slam many times during the course of obs QT. You did cite him being relaxed a lot iirc, but your read was not nearly as simple as thinking him scum D1 then green reading him for being relaxed.

So both you and DP way oversimplified it.


I called Slam mafia before the vivax lynch, I mentioned also his reaction to him being doctor was weird and lack of emotion, very robotic, etc. Later I believed he was town because DP and you looked more scum and there was the thing that I painted the scenario that chezinu was cop and cleared him.

I can actually confirm that from reading that OBS chat.


We were all in the OBS chat, it's literally the same people, we can all confirm that. Another useless post.

On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.


"Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think through reading his filter"

On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.-

useless
On June 09 2023 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.

I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already.

That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.-

useless

I hate these two posts. It's funny how he talks about shitting up the thread yet his own posts aren't actually helping to unwind the thread except for +1ing rayn.

The next few posts, while ironically similar to stuff I've said regarding my IRL activity, are part of what's feeding into my impression that LS is attempting to generate activity to avoid some of the scumtells he fell victim to last game:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 10 2023 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Correction on my advising appointment: It's in 45 minutes thought it was starting now (facepalms). Hopefully we get more people to enter the thread.


On June 10 2023 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got done with my advising appointment: Glad to see Hapa did post something!


On June 10 2023 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 02:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was really not expecting to wake up to ~20 pages, what is this 2013?

I have work today so I'll mostly be phone posting but definitely scumreading LS right now (again) and I think DarthPunk came off looking worse in the exchange with CopCake that I just read.

I'm townreading chezinu on a complete shot in the dark that his chatgpt nonsense is a protest against not being able to use his seal.

After attempting to gut read slam last game and being wrong I'm back to forever null on him

TTT probably my strongest town read

DMB has a lot more confidence this game, don't think that's alignment indicative yet but I'll be interested to see how things progress.

Aight I'll be in and out today, I'll have some free time tonight.

I am not surprised you are scumreading me again given that last game I was scum but this time around I am town. In regards to Darth vs CopCake you said Darth looks worse in that exchange does that equate to him being mafia or just him just looking worse?

IDK LS, what do you think? I personally only say that people are looking bad when they're looking scummy to me. Earlier you said Darth was the same alignment as you, so are you going to defend him?

OK so now I've entered the game this AM and we're getting to the posts that really caught my attention when I was catching up this afternoon:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

What in the actual fuck does this mean? Why do you think it was forced? Do you think both Darth and Copcake are scum? What posts do you felt were forced? What does this serve to do other than fish for suspicions?

On June 10 2023 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Also CopCake
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 03:04 CopCake wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


His push feels forced, I don't understand why he thinks he got a case when I explained the error of the question.

I am certified, healthy, copcake.

Ya idk if it's super alignment indicative with his case on you like that to be honest. In addition that entire line of stuff between you two felt off idk why yet.

This post feels like opportunistic scum looking for suspicions to feed on, if it's NAI why bring up this stuff in the first place other than to sow doubt and distrust among the town? I hate when people say that something feels off and then can't elaborate why. Like at least quote a post of one of Cop/Darth and say "I didn't like that." Tone reads are fine, honestly just meta/vibes are fine. But at least put yourself on record and quote a post or two that made you uncomfortable/suspicious. Otherwise this is just trash that clutters the thread.
On June 10 2023 05:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 05:30 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Why do you have a strong opinion of LS alignment slam?

Statistics, and difference of opener.

Why you got all questions and no reads, m8? I asked all the questions last game iirc it ain't so townie


You don't think I have talked about peoples alignment? Even though you quoted my post stating lynching LS at the time was a good call?

Don't you think that qualifies as a read at this point in the game?

His opener doesn't seem that different to me. Still seems anxious and crafted.


Yes it is anxious and crafted. It‘s not from this world or era. It‘s pasta, copy..pasta.

Do you think that‘s not revenant, DP ? Do you really think that ?

Ok riddle me this: If I was mafia this game especially how bad I played last game as mafia why would I craft that opening forgetting that I even did that opening before as town? Hint: I actually wasn't anxious and didn't craft that post.


There's more wine in front of this post than there is wine in my glass, and hint hint, there's a lot of wine in my glass. Tbh this post was the first one where I thought "he knows he didn't play scum well last game, what if he's deliberately trying a more active style this game to avoid attention."

On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

Why tf would anyone chime in when you haven't told them what's making you feel that way? The continued unfounded accusations and unsubstantiated suspicions are not working for me.

Page 25 is worth a reread for everyone, in particular look at the LS/Cop/Rayn posts. Rayn reads what's being posted and immediately comes to the conclusion that an LS lynch is a good idea. For those who don't want to click the link, I'll summarize. LS gets pushed on his comment about the Darth/Cop interaction Rayn/Cop get LS to say the thinks that there's scum between Cop/Darth. After some more pushing, LS says that:
On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?

Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?

This was your townread bro, the one you said was the same alignment as you. And after rayn and copcake pushed you about the Cop/Darth being townVmafia you flip and say Darth is now possibly scum?

I'm just trying to work through this and here's where I keep coming back to the conclusion that LS is scum. He's got Darth as a townread. He says there's something off with DarthVCop. When pushed he says that it feels like TownVMafia (even though he initially said the interaction felt forced which is usually what people say when they're analyzing a MafiaVMafia interation). Once he says he feels one of them could be scum, he gets pushed on which one and he says it's Darth.... his previous townread.

I'll give LS a point, Rayn did ask him to choose and then acted surprised when LS said he was "forced to choose" but at the same time it doesn't really matter because he still chose someone he was townreading previously without any real progression.

Here's more status updates:
On June 10 2023 09:03 LightningStrike wrote:
fyi guys I wont be around starting in 58 minutes I got a TTRPG session (Session 1 for a new game)


On June 10 2023 09:58 LightningStrike wrote:
With that being said I am heading to my TTRPG session will check in the thread once the session is done!

On June 10 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Session is on a break at the moment:
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On June 10 2023 11:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
@LS Why is your vote on Rayn? Have you cased him at any point?

I haven't voted anyone?



I could be tunneled again, it happens. But the random suspicions, flip flopping of reads, and the apologetic town/updates ... it just feels to me that LS rolled scum again and is trying not to get caught so quickly this time. I am open to all questions.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 10 2023 03:11 GMT
#597
welp, posted without really previewing but LS never came back to that question about Chez which just reinforces my impression that he was casting random suspicions rather than scum hunting.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 03:16 GMT
#598
On June 10 2023 12:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
First things first, when I type TL.net into my browser it takes me to marv's filter from last game which is indicative of how many times I read him trying to figure things out lol.

Second, I'm a bottle of wine deep for personal reasons so apologies for any misspellings or other grammatical issues.

Finally, let's get to LS

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is there anything else you like or don't like LS, aside from the people you mentioned?

TTT seems likely town given how they played last game. Also I do got you town as well so far. Outside of that though nothing really catches out to me at the moment.

Ok fine, it's early, not gonna hate you for nothing catching your eye

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On June 09 2023 21:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:21 Chezinu wrote:
Vivax, Slam, DMB

Slam kill TTT this time.

Is this the red squad mr. mailman?

I do hope he answers this so we can figure what that post actually means.

I'm going to do my best not to sound super sarcastic when I right this but come on, it's chez "I hope he answers so we figure out what it means?" Like what does it mean to you dude? Why highlight this? It's chez who the fuck knows what it means? This post serves no purpose

I should pause here and explain how I think, I write these posts knowing what my gut says based on what I've read previously in the thread but I don't go in with a conclusion in mind. If LS brings attention to Chez again and continues this line of inquiry I will stop finding this post suspicious.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:43 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 18:29 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:04 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….


No, early game i called him maf and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story.


Err... Just gonna pipe in here. Copcake you switched on and off slam many times during the course of obs QT. You did cite him being relaxed a lot iirc, but your read was not nearly as simple as thinking him scum D1 then green reading him for being relaxed.

So both you and DP way oversimplified it.


I called Slam mafia before the vivax lynch, I mentioned also his reaction to him being doctor was weird and lack of emotion, very robotic, etc. Later I believed he was town because DP and you looked more scum and there was the thing that I painted the scenario that chezinu was cop and cleared him.

I can actually confirm that from reading that OBS chat.


We were all in the OBS chat, it's literally the same people, we can all confirm that. Another useless post.

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On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.


"Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think through reading his filter"

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On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.-

useless
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On June 09 2023 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.

I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already.

That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.-

useless

I hate these two posts. It's funny how he talks about shitting up the thread yet his own posts aren't actually helping to unwind the thread except for +1ing rayn.

The next few posts, while ironically similar to stuff I've said regarding my IRL activity, are part of what's feeding into my impression that LS is attempting to generate activity to avoid some of the scumtells he fell victim to last game:

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On June 10 2023 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Correction on my advising appointment: It's in 45 minutes thought it was starting now (facepalms). Hopefully we get more people to enter the thread.


On June 10 2023 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got done with my advising appointment: Glad to see Hapa did post something!


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On June 10 2023 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was really not expecting to wake up to ~20 pages, what is this 2013?

I have work today so I'll mostly be phone posting but definitely scumreading LS right now (again) and I think DarthPunk came off looking worse in the exchange with CopCake that I just read.

I'm townreading chezinu on a complete shot in the dark that his chatgpt nonsense is a protest against not being able to use his seal.

After attempting to gut read slam last game and being wrong I'm back to forever null on him

TTT probably my strongest town read

DMB has a lot more confidence this game, don't think that's alignment indicative yet but I'll be interested to see how things progress.

Aight I'll be in and out today, I'll have some free time tonight.

I am not surprised you are scumreading me again given that last game I was scum but this time around I am town. In regards to Darth vs CopCake you said Darth looks worse in that exchange does that equate to him being mafia or just him just looking worse?

IDK LS, what do you think? I personally only say that people are looking bad when they're looking scummy to me. Earlier you said Darth was the same alignment as you, so are you going to defend him?

OK so now I've entered the game this AM and we're getting to the posts that really caught my attention when I was catching up this afternoon:
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On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

What in the actual fuck does this mean? Why do you think it was forced? Do you think both Darth and Copcake are scum? What posts do you felt were forced? What does this serve to do other than fish for suspicions?

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On June 10 2023 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Also CopCake
On June 10 2023 03:04 CopCake wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


His push feels forced, I don't understand why he thinks he got a case when I explained the error of the question.

I am certified, healthy, copcake.

Ya idk if it's super alignment indicative with his case on you like that to be honest. In addition that entire line of stuff between you two felt off idk why yet.

This post feels like opportunistic scum looking for suspicions to feed on, if it's NAI why bring up this stuff in the first place other than to sow doubt and distrust among the town? I hate when people say that something feels off and then can't elaborate why. Like at least quote a post of one of Cop/Darth and say "I didn't like that." Tone reads are fine, honestly just meta/vibes are fine. But at least put yourself on record and quote a post or two that made you uncomfortable/suspicious. Otherwise this is just trash that clutters the thread.
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On June 10 2023 05:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 05:30 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Why do you have a strong opinion of LS alignment slam?

Statistics, and difference of opener.

Why you got all questions and no reads, m8? I asked all the questions last game iirc it ain't so townie


You don't think I have talked about peoples alignment? Even though you quoted my post stating lynching LS at the time was a good call?

Don't you think that qualifies as a read at this point in the game?

His opener doesn't seem that different to me. Still seems anxious and crafted.


Yes it is anxious and crafted. It‘s not from this world or era. It‘s pasta, copy..pasta.

Do you think that‘s not revenant, DP ? Do you really think that ?

Ok riddle me this: If I was mafia this game especially how bad I played last game as mafia why would I craft that opening forgetting that I even did that opening before as town? Hint: I actually wasn't anxious and didn't craft that post.


There's more wine in front of this post than there is wine in my glass, and hint hint, there's a lot of wine in my glass. Tbh this post was the first one where I thought "he knows he didn't play scum well last game, what if he's deliberately trying a more active style this game to avoid attention."

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On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

Why tf would anyone chime in when you haven't told them what's making you feel that way? The continued unfounded accusations and unsubstantiated suspicions are not working for me.

Page 25 is worth a reread for everyone, in particular look at the LS/Cop/Rayn posts. Rayn reads what's being posted and immediately comes to the conclusion that an LS lynch is a good idea. For those who don't want to click the link, I'll summarize. LS gets pushed on his comment about the Darth/Cop interaction Rayn/Cop get LS to say the thinks that there's scum between Cop/Darth. After some more pushing, LS says that:
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On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?

Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?

This was your townread bro, the one you said was the same alignment as you. And after rayn and copcake pushed you about the Cop/Darth being townVmafia you flip and say Darth is now possibly scum?

I'm just trying to work through this and here's where I keep coming back to the conclusion that LS is scum. He's got Darth as a townread. He says there's something off with DarthVCop. When pushed he says that it feels like TownVMafia (even though he initially said the interaction felt forced which is usually what people say when they're analyzing a MafiaVMafia interation). Once he says he feels one of them could be scum, he gets pushed on which one and he says it's Darth.... his previous townread.

I'll give LS a point, Rayn did ask him to choose and then acted surprised when LS said he was "forced to choose" but at the same time it doesn't really matter because he still chose someone he was townreading previously without any real progression.

Here's more status updates:
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On June 10 2023 09:03 LightningStrike wrote:
fyi guys I wont be around starting in 58 minutes I got a TTRPG session (Session 1 for a new game)


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On June 10 2023 09:58 LightningStrike wrote:
With that being said I am heading to my TTRPG session will check in the thread once the session is done!

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On June 10 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Session is on a break at the moment:
On June 10 2023 11:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
@LS Why is your vote on Rayn? Have you cased him at any point?

I haven't voted anyone?



I could be tunneled again, it happens. But the random suspicions, flip flopping of reads, and the apologetic town/updates ... it just feels to me that LS rolled scum again and is trying not to get caught so quickly this time. I am open to all questions.


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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
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#599
Session is over!
On June 10 2023 11:26 TankTopTiger wrote:
Ah, I'm an idiot who misread the vote. Ignore that line of questioning. Sorry!

Ok
On June 10 2023 12:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
First things first, when I type TL.net into my browser it takes me to marv's filter from last game which is indicative of how many times I read him trying to figure things out lol.

Second, I'm a bottle of wine deep for personal reasons so apologies for any misspellings or other grammatical issues.

Finally, let's get to LS

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On June 09 2023 21:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is there anything else you like or don't like LS, aside from the people you mentioned?

TTT seems likely town given how they played last game. Also I do got you town as well so far. Outside of that though nothing really catches out to me at the moment.

Ok fine, it's early, not gonna hate you for nothing catching your eye

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On June 09 2023 21:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:21 Chezinu wrote:
Vivax, Slam, DMB

Slam kill TTT this time.

Is this the red squad mr. mailman?

I do hope he answers this so we can figure what that post actually means.

I'm going to do my best not to sound super sarcastic when I right this but come on, it's chez "I hope he answers so we figure out what it means?" Like what does it mean to you dude? Why highlight this? It's chez who the fuck knows what it means? This post serves no purpose

I should pause here and explain how I think, I write these posts knowing what my gut says based on what I've read previously in the thread but I don't go in with a conclusion in mind. If LS brings attention to Chez again and continues this line of inquiry I will stop finding this post suspicious.

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On June 09 2023 21:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:43 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 18:29 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:04 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….


No, early game i called him maf and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story.


Err... Just gonna pipe in here. Copcake you switched on and off slam many times during the course of obs QT. You did cite him being relaxed a lot iirc, but your read was not nearly as simple as thinking him scum D1 then green reading him for being relaxed.

So both you and DP way oversimplified it.


I called Slam mafia before the vivax lynch, I mentioned also his reaction to him being doctor was weird and lack of emotion, very robotic, etc. Later I believed he was town because DP and you looked more scum and there was the thing that I painted the scenario that chezinu was cop and cleared him.

I can actually confirm that from reading that OBS chat.


We were all in the OBS chat, it's literally the same people, we can all confirm that. Another useless post.

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On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!

What are you referring to here LS?

The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.


"Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think through reading his filter"

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On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.-

useless
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On June 09 2023 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.

I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already.

That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.-

useless

I hate these two posts. It's funny how he talks about shitting up the thread yet his own posts aren't actually helping to unwind the thread except for +1ing rayn.

The next few posts, while ironically similar to stuff I've said regarding my IRL activity, are part of what's feeding into my impression that LS is attempting to generate activity to avoid some of the scumtells he fell victim to last game:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 10 2023 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Correction on my advising appointment: It's in 45 minutes thought it was starting now (facepalms). Hopefully we get more people to enter the thread.


On June 10 2023 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got done with my advising appointment: Glad to see Hapa did post something!


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On June 10 2023 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was really not expecting to wake up to ~20 pages, what is this 2013?

I have work today so I'll mostly be phone posting but definitely scumreading LS right now (again) and I think DarthPunk came off looking worse in the exchange with CopCake that I just read.

I'm townreading chezinu on a complete shot in the dark that his chatgpt nonsense is a protest against not being able to use his seal.

After attempting to gut read slam last game and being wrong I'm back to forever null on him

TTT probably my strongest town read

DMB has a lot more confidence this game, don't think that's alignment indicative yet but I'll be interested to see how things progress.

Aight I'll be in and out today, I'll have some free time tonight.

I am not surprised you are scumreading me again given that last game I was scum but this time around I am town. In regards to Darth vs CopCake you said Darth looks worse in that exchange does that equate to him being mafia or just him just looking worse?

IDK LS, what do you think? I personally only say that people are looking bad when they're looking scummy to me. Earlier you said Darth was the same alignment as you, so are you going to defend him?

OK so now I've entered the game this AM and we're getting to the posts that really caught my attention when I was catching up this afternoon:
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On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

What in the actual fuck does this mean? Why do you think it was forced? Do you think both Darth and Copcake are scum? What posts do you felt were forced? What does this serve to do other than fish for suspicions?

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On June 10 2023 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Also CopCake
On June 10 2023 03:04 CopCake wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


His push feels forced, I don't understand why he thinks he got a case when I explained the error of the question.

I am certified, healthy, copcake.

Ya idk if it's super alignment indicative with his case on you like that to be honest. In addition that entire line of stuff between you two felt off idk why yet.

This post feels like opportunistic scum looking for suspicions to feed on, if it's NAI why bring up this stuff in the first place other than to sow doubt and distrust among the town? I hate when people say that something feels off and then can't elaborate why. Like at least quote a post of one of Cop/Darth and say "I didn't like that." Tone reads are fine, honestly just meta/vibes are fine. But at least put yourself on record and quote a post or two that made you uncomfortable/suspicious. Otherwise this is just trash that clutters the thread.
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On June 10 2023 05:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 05:30 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Why do you have a strong opinion of LS alignment slam?

Statistics, and difference of opener.

Why you got all questions and no reads, m8? I asked all the questions last game iirc it ain't so townie


You don't think I have talked about peoples alignment? Even though you quoted my post stating lynching LS at the time was a good call?

Don't you think that qualifies as a read at this point in the game?

His opener doesn't seem that different to me. Still seems anxious and crafted.


Yes it is anxious and crafted. It‘s not from this world or era. It‘s pasta, copy..pasta.

Do you think that‘s not revenant, DP ? Do you really think that ?

Ok riddle me this: If I was mafia this game especially how bad I played last game as mafia why would I craft that opening forgetting that I even did that opening before as town? Hint: I actually wasn't anxious and didn't craft that post.


There's more wine in front of this post than there is wine in my glass, and hint hint, there's a lot of wine in my glass. Tbh this post was the first one where I thought "he knows he didn't play scum well last game, what if he's deliberately trying a more active style this game to avoid attention."

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On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

Why tf would anyone chime in when you haven't told them what's making you feel that way? The continued unfounded accusations and unsubstantiated suspicions are not working for me.

Page 25 is worth a reread for everyone, in particular look at the LS/Cop/Rayn posts. Rayn reads what's being posted and immediately comes to the conclusion that an LS lynch is a good idea. For those who don't want to click the link, I'll summarize. LS gets pushed on his comment about the Darth/Cop interaction Rayn/Cop get LS to say the thinks that there's scum between Cop/Darth. After some more pushing, LS says that:
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On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?

Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?

This was your townread bro, the one you said was the same alignment as you. And after rayn and copcake pushed you about the Cop/Darth being townVmafia you flip and say Darth is now possibly scum?

I'm just trying to work through this and here's where I keep coming back to the conclusion that LS is scum. He's got Darth as a townread. He says there's something off with DarthVCop. When pushed he says that it feels like TownVMafia (even though he initially said the interaction felt forced which is usually what people say when they're analyzing a MafiaVMafia interation). Once he says he feels one of them could be scum, he gets pushed on which one and he says it's Darth.... his previous townread.

I'll give LS a point, Rayn did ask him to choose and then acted surprised when LS said he was "forced to choose" but at the same time it doesn't really matter because he still chose someone he was townreading previously without any real progression.

Here's more status updates:
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On June 10 2023 09:03 LightningStrike wrote:
fyi guys I wont be around starting in 58 minutes I got a TTRPG session (Session 1 for a new game)


Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 09:58 LightningStrike wrote:
With that being said I am heading to my TTRPG session will check in the thread once the session is done!

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On June 10 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Session is on a break at the moment:
On June 10 2023 11:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
@LS Why is your vote on Rayn? Have you cased him at any point?

I haven't voted anyone?



I could be tunneled again, it happens. But the random suspicions, flip flopping of reads, and the apologetic town/updates ... it just feels to me that LS rolled scum again and is trying not to get caught so quickly this time. I am open to all questions.

Regarding Chez I been waiting for him to actually answer it to be honest he just dodged it?
Regarding the OBS qt talk: No else confirmed it before I said something.
Regarding my head spin stuff I was just expressing how I felt because that entire thing did legit made my head spin.
Regarding my irl activity stuff: it's NAI I was just stating what is going on with me.
Regarding Darth: Didn't like his stuff with CopCake after that post I made saying I thought he was the same alignment as me. He was misrepresenting CopCake thus why I felt he was making something out of nothing.
You are tunneled on me again for stupid shit that I already explained why I was thinking the way I was -.-
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2023 03:26 GMT
#600
On June 10 2023 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
welp, posted without really previewing but LS never came back to that question about Chez which just reinforces my impression that he was casting random suspicions rather than scum hunting.

I was scum hunting by asking questions about people trying to come up with my own conclusions? I did come up with my own conclusions and was some of posting them.
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