On August 31 2022 05:19 Koshi wrote:
I don't disagree with what you wrote.
BUT
What if rayn is actually just really busy and therefore only gave lazy reads?
Your case depends a lot on, rayn pretends to be busy and is skating by to survive day 1?
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On August 31 2022 05:08 Mattchew wrote:
Ok lets get started.
Theres been a lot of conversation about individual player habits and previous games, honestly i havent played in forever and dont remember the games i did play, i will also not be going back thru previous games/players history to expand on these reads. I will obviously be reading and judging posts with these reads but thru a lens of just this game
Having read up to page 22, there was only 1 player that super stuck out as someone I was suspicious of based on just this game and that player is raynpelikoneet. every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads, all of this reads to me as if he is trying to look like he is free posting and active town while not actually saying anything.
Like this is his most active post in the game so far and the only thing hes said since actual reads discussion has started (notice his activity has dropped significantly with real game conversation taking place). It consists of what I consider a pretty light/meme read on koshi, a "im not sure" on cake/mz, and insanely light scum read on decon that screams "i can bail on this read if needed" and 2 more random "probs town".
This to me is quintessential mafia not knowing how to interject opinions into the game because they have too much information and thinking that day 1 activity can get them thru to day 2.
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The MZ push on CC is also something that has caught my eye. + Show Spoiler +
I can't find anything wrong with this post, he is correct about the tone of posts and similarly to my rayn read finds a lot of fluff that anyone can post for activity that doesnt actually help town progress forward towards a mafia lynch. MZ seems to be playing the game very seriously which I can appreciate and at this point is trying to nail down his CC read and is pushing incredibly hard for it which screams MZ is town to me.
TLDR: MZ is top town read, Rayn and CC top mafia and Chez rulez
Ok lets get started.
Theres been a lot of conversation about individual player habits and previous games, honestly i havent played in forever and dont remember the games i did play, i will also not be going back thru previous games/players history to expand on these reads. I will obviously be reading and judging posts with these reads but thru a lens of just this game
Having read up to page 22, there was only 1 player that super stuck out as someone I was suspicious of based on just this game and that player is raynpelikoneet. every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads, all of this reads to me as if he is trying to look like he is free posting and active town while not actually saying anything.
On August 30 2022 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi top town. I sm not sure if stuff on Cake and MZ makrs them mafia but nevertheless its legit stuff and townie thought process. Esp on MZ he uses very weird narratives in his scumhunting on what he thinks makes people mafia. Pretty sure he got lynched for it as town last game i played with him.
Deconduo probs mafia. Apparently all he has said has been sarcasm and prolonging the discussion about that when people dont understand its sarcasm. Very counter productive. Hopefully he does some scumhunting if he happens to be town. Last night o read some of hisrecent games and town filter is scumhunting and scum filter is setup shit talking, so here pretty much the same.
Jock probs town too, maybe dandel too. Doesnt look like he hassny scum driven agenda. Tjose are my reads i have until p15.
Koshi top town. I sm not sure if stuff on Cake and MZ makrs them mafia but nevertheless its legit stuff and townie thought process. Esp on MZ he uses very weird narratives in his scumhunting on what he thinks makes people mafia. Pretty sure he got lynched for it as town last game i played with him.
Deconduo probs mafia. Apparently all he has said has been sarcasm and prolonging the discussion about that when people dont understand its sarcasm. Very counter productive. Hopefully he does some scumhunting if he happens to be town. Last night o read some of hisrecent games and town filter is scumhunting and scum filter is setup shit talking, so here pretty much the same.
Jock probs town too, maybe dandel too. Doesnt look like he hassny scum driven agenda. Tjose are my reads i have until p15.
Like this is his most active post in the game so far and the only thing hes said since actual reads discussion has started (notice his activity has dropped significantly with real game conversation taking place). It consists of what I consider a pretty light/meme read on koshi, a "im not sure" on cake/mz, and insanely light scum read on decon that screams "i can bail on this read if needed" and 2 more random "probs town".
This to me is quintessential mafia not knowing how to interject opinions into the game because they have too much information and thinking that day 1 activity can get them thru to day 2.
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The MZ push on CC is also something that has caught my eye. + Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2022 02:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok starting where I left off.
Firstly, copcake fluff
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I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him:
Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"
Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.
Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.
So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"
It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.
copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
Tube beats her to the punch here.
The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts:
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These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.
I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.
Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.
Ok starting where I left off.
Firstly, copcake fluff
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On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote:
Hi Rels, long time no see :D
Hi Rels, long time no see :D
On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote:
Hi Jock, long time no see.
Hi Jock, long time no see.
On August 30 2022 03:49 CopCake wrote:
Oh shit
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On August 30 2022 03:48 deconduo wrote:
Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015
On August 30 2022 03:41 Rels wrote:
haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p
On August 30 2022 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour.
Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^
I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour.
Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^
haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p
Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015
Oh shit
On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote:
Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist.
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On August 30 2022 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
always
I was just very good at hiding my feelings
On August 30 2022 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
when ever have you cared about this?
On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
It scares the sheep
"On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game"
(1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
In what way?
On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote.
If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
are we ever truly anybody?
On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:
Neo?
Is that you?
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth
I lack both money and a mouth
Neo?
Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote.
If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep
"On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game"
(1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
when ever have you cared about this?
always
I was just very good at hiding my feelings
Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist.
On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote:
If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia.
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On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote:
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:
100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:
100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu
If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia.
On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote:
Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent.
Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent.
On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote:
I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him:
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On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:
Are you saying you are not town?
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town
I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
Are you saying you are not town?
On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
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I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
But responded to the very next one:
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
did you skip HF post on purpose?
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
lol?
[quote]
lol?
did you skip HF post on purpose?
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
What?
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
What?
But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town
I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
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I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"
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On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.
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On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human.
Do you have any reads yet?
On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly.
Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
this list is unironically revolting
koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube
Neutral:
Rels
Matt
People who are not fun:
Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ
Chezinu:
Chezinu
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube
Neutral:
Rels
Matt
People who are not fun:
Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ
Chezinu:
Chezinu
this list is unironically revolting
koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly.
Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human.
Do you have any reads yet?
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.
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On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely
With this caveat:
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Absolutely
With this caveat:
On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"
It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.
copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
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On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:
But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!
Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!
Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.
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On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Tube beats her to the punch here.
The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts:
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On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote:
Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!
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On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?
Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?
Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote:
But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong.
But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong.
These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.
I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.
Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.
I can't find anything wrong with this post, he is correct about the tone of posts and similarly to my rayn read finds a lot of fluff that anyone can post for activity that doesnt actually help town progress forward towards a mafia lynch. MZ seems to be playing the game very seriously which I can appreciate and at this point is trying to nail down his CC read and is pushing incredibly hard for it which screams MZ is town to me.
TLDR: MZ is top town read, Rayn and CC top mafia and Chez rulez
I don't disagree with what you wrote.
BUT
What if rayn is actually just really busy and therefore only gave lazy reads?
Your case depends a lot on, rayn pretends to be busy and is skating by to survive day 1?
i miss when this was you
On August 30 2022 21:37 Koshi wrote:
Ok then I call Rels, rayn and Hf all 3 mafia.
Ok then I call Rels, rayn and Hf all 3 mafia.