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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2022 22:28 GMT
#481
On August 31 2022 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you think Vivax is town?
So you think deconduo is town?

If so, why? Vivax hasn't said anything worth anything whole game. Basically he has made posts but the only game contributing post is his vote on MZ. He has been talking about outside game stuff. If Vivax is mafia Vivax talks either nothing or he talks about some stupid shit like stock markets.

Here Vivax talks like he is talking about stock market.

Vivax makes weird posts and I cba to read or decipher it.
Vivax ezlynch on day 2/3 when he is obvious mafia due to complete activity drop off.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 22:29 GMT
#482
On August 31 2022 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So deconduo's 1st page of filter is sarcasm or talking about those posts he made sarcastically. As i already said i find it very counter productive to scumhunting since at least me and Jock wasted some time trying to clarify something that was apparently basically jokes. In addition to that, if you look at the last three games in the database of his, as town he actually tries to scumhunt (useful), as mafia he pretty much posted nothing but setup discussion (useless) on D1.

If deco was really engaged and good in his previous 3 towngames, I am ok with voting him off based on his performance this game. Because this game the reads are pretty shallow and quick drawn.
Mafia that can't fake real reads and just quickly calls people town/mafia based on little or thread sentiment.

I dont know if he was good or not.
What i do know is that when he posts he scumhunts / gives reads as town, not so as mafia:
town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/492282-tl-mafia-lxxii-gaiden-2?user=Deconduo
town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia?user=deconduo
mafia - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/237920-world-at-war-2-mafia?user=deconduo

I don't believe people's habits change in 5 or even 10 years as he claims.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2022 22:31 GMT
#483
I think this game looks way more like Gaiden than the mafia one lol?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2022 22:32 GMT
#484
On August 31 2022 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 07:26 Koshi wrote:
On August 31 2022 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So deconduo's 1st page of filter is sarcasm or talking about those posts he made sarcastically. As i already said i find it very counter productive to scumhunting since at least me and Jock wasted some time trying to clarify something that was apparently basically jokes. In addition to that, if you look at the last three games in the database of his, as town he actually tries to scumhunt (useful), as mafia he pretty much posted nothing but setup discussion (useless) on D1.

If deco was really engaged and good in his previous 3 towngames, I am ok with voting him off based on his performance this game. Because this game the reads are pretty shallow and quick drawn.
Mafia that can't fake real reads and just quickly calls people town/mafia based on little or thread sentiment.

I dont know if he was good or not.
What i do know is that when he posts he scumhunts / gives reads as town, not so as mafia:
town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/492282-tl-mafia-lxxii-gaiden-2?user=Deconduo
town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia?user=deconduo
mafia - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/237920-world-at-war-2-mafia?user=deconduo

I don't believe people's habits change in 5 or even 10 years as he claims.

lol. It is late. I need to sleep.
And I wished I didn't open those filters.

I don't want to think about how lowkey filters 11 years ago match op with lowkey filters now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2022 22:32 GMT
#485
The mafia one just seems like a mechanic heavy game too so hard to really tell what he'd post like as mafia I guess, but it still seems similar to his Gaiden posts.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 22:32 GMT
#486
On August 31 2022 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
I think this game looks way more like Gaiden than the mafia one lol?

huh i would say that's the least similar...
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2022 22:33 GMT
#487
Sleep well all. May The Sandman visit you and give you a nice dream.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 22:42 GMT
#488
On August 31 2022 04:43 deconduo wrote:
Overall almost everyone seems pretty townie so far. I've got Rayn and MZ in my 'interesting' group - but that could just be cos they've both had a go at me. Not convinced they've done anything actually scummy but it can be hard to distance myself from a bit of tunneling and look at the situation critically. I'll do review of them tomorrow i think.

Looking forward to what Matt has to say

Like, at this time i havent been posting much anything for almost a day. Yet deconduo doesn't have any questions or anything to say about either of us. He just said my case on him is townish (yet i am still in interesting category). MZ has been under pressure from many people, yet he has nothing to say about this.

Instead he wants to hear from Mattchew???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 22:57 GMT
#489
Cake why do you call MZ Zhipp?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 23:02 GMT
#490
On August 30 2022 11:27 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On August 30 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
There was so much discussion of this quote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb

For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right?
Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted.


No, later Rayn said it was an inside joke. That he messed up.

Ah my bad, I'll have to go reread that bit.
On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!

Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.

I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie.

To me, a townie jokes more along the lines of
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town

It's harmless, in the first couple pages of the game, and unambiguous.

I personally strongly dislike decon's "joke" here as well:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

Although since it's so early in the game I wasn't focused on it at first, I only saw it again when rereading for the HF post I quoted above.


I like his joke list post better than Jock's quote every post try-hardness. They both move the thread a little forward at least.

Putting HF as top town on one self claim post is pretty hilarious. Then essentially doing the opposite for Vivax bussing absent Koshi is pretty funny too. And of course the Chezinu read is spot on too. Now we can wait and see who nitpicks him for it and why.

Did you already decide who nitpicked on that or not? Because i know who did and i also know who didn't care while saying they would.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 23:06 GMT
#491
Maybe Tubesock is also mafia. That post is quite... well...
deconduo's joke list post is better than Jock's quote-every-post posts, because both move the game forwards??
Then wait for who nitpicks on deconduo's post (like a... threat?), well i did, nothing happened in Tubesock's world.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 23:08 GMT
#492
Where are all the americans? Chezinu if you needed to take one of the players in this game with you on an island, who would it be? Would you climb to a coconut tree instead of them yes/no?
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 30 2022 23:09 GMT
#493
On August 31 2022 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 11:27 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On August 30 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
There was so much discussion of this quote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb

For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right?
Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted.


No, later Rayn said it was an inside joke. That he messed up.

Ah my bad, I'll have to go reread that bit.
On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!

Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.

I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie.

To me, a townie jokes more along the lines of
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town

It's harmless, in the first couple pages of the game, and unambiguous.

I personally strongly dislike decon's "joke" here as well:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

Although since it's so early in the game I wasn't focused on it at first, I only saw it again when rereading for the HF post I quoted above.


I like his joke list post better than Jock's quote every post try-hardness. They both move the thread a little forward at least.

Putting HF as top town on one self claim post is pretty hilarious. Then essentially doing the opposite for Vivax bussing absent Koshi is pretty funny too. And of course the Chezinu read is spot on too. Now we can wait and see who nitpicks him for it and why.

Did you already decide who nitpicked on that or not? Because i know who did and i also know who didn't care while saying they would.


MZ sure nitpicked it. I didn't already decide at the time that would be weird. But it's easy to say that early game list posts get nitpicked a lot. I missed who didn't care but said they would.

About Deconduo. I don't think any of his games you posted sound like him this game. I don't really think he's left the joking phase of the game. If he never does then I'd say he's mafia, but I like him too much to lynch him now. I am a sucker for people who make me laugh.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 23:10 GMT
#494
You don't think i nitpicked on deconduo's post?
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 30 2022 23:10 GMT
#495
On August 31 2022 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe Tubesock is also mafia. That post is quite... well...
deconduo's joke list post is better than Jock's quote-every-post posts, because both move the game forwards??
Then wait for who nitpicks on deconduo's post (like a... threat?), well i did, nothing happened in Tubesock's world.


Dude you nitpick everyone all the time haha that's not indicative of you at all. And you always misread some stuff and make it rayn on people. That's not indicative either for you.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 23:12 GMT
#496
Okay. What in your opinion Jock did, or how he reacted to that (deconduo's list post)?
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2022 23:24 GMT
#497
Hey, finally some free time! Sorry for the AFK, I didn't feel like playing last evening ... then was busy all day today. Gonna catch up now
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2022 23:33 GMT
#498
On August 30 2022 04:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:16 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:12 deconduo wrote:
Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia

The question is, if you've noticed this pattern before, didn't you just vote for the people whose posts you liked?
How did it go?


Don't remember, its been years

Fair enough.

On August 30 2022 04:17 deconduo wrote:
My old rule was always vote Palmar day 1

Oh its ok the rule is vote palmar day 1 or if he's not there vote holyflare.

On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol.

His post makes sense after the clarification. It didn't before, I assume that why you posted 'what?'.


Why does saying this game has a rber that doesn't rb make any sense? Can't find anything about it in the OP.

I think he's saying that he's ok with it if it happens.

?? That's not what he said at all though?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2022 23:38 GMT
#499
On August 31 2022 08:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 04:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:16 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:12 deconduo wrote:
Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia

The question is, if you've noticed this pattern before, didn't you just vote for the people whose posts you liked?
How did it go?


Don't remember, its been years

Fair enough.

On August 30 2022 04:17 deconduo wrote:
My old rule was always vote Palmar day 1

Oh its ok the rule is vote palmar day 1 or if he's not there vote holyflare.

On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol.

His post makes sense after the clarification. It didn't before, I assume that why you posted 'what?'.


Why does saying this game has a rber that doesn't rb make any sense? Can't find anything about it in the OP.

I think he's saying that he's ok with it if it happens.

?? That's not what he said at all though?

That's exactly what i was saying though.
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 30 2022 23:40 GMT
#500
On August 31 2022 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. What in your opinion Jock did, or how he reacted to that (deconduo's list post)?


In a vacuum Jock did nitpick the list.

Why I'm not shading Jock for it is fairly simple. He's mentioned several times that he wished people would take their tongue out of their cheek. That day 1 is mostly only good for tone reads and chains of logic hurt his brain. He also basically responded to every single post in the game. He wants the game to be more science and logic based but knows and is being frustrated that it just isn't on day 1. He's lowkey frustrated that it's super hard to figure out day 1. So, I overall townread him for that effort. He's not complaining like a typical scum would, he's trying. So yeah he can nitpick away as I think the motivation is more town based. That being said, if later in the game he falls off then this was an act.

MZ on the other hand looks more like he was looking for stuff to find. Which we all do. I so far have disagreed with about everything that I can think of he's said.
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