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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 00:27 GMT
#521
On August 30 2022 19:06 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?


Are you saying you are not town?


On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


Are you talking of a past game or?


On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
lol?

did you skip HF post on purpose?

Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.

--


On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?


On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
[quote]
But responded to the very next one:
[quote]
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia
This player list:
1. Alakaslam
2. ShoCkeyy
4. Jockmcplop
3. Grackaroni
5. Tictock
6. Raynpelikoneet
7. Fecalfeast
8. Vivax
9. Hapahauli
10. Trfel


Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.

Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?



On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
[quote]

Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia
This player list:
1. Alakaslam
2. ShoCkeyy
4. Jockmcplop
3. Grackaroni
5. Tictock
6. Raynpelikoneet
7. Fecalfeast
8. Vivax
9. Hapahauli
10. Trfel


Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.

Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?


I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot.
I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players.
And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.


Above 3 quotes show
1) HF post
2) rayn pressure on CC
3) CC answer to rain on said pressure.


Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting.


So Copcape



I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed"

D:<

If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason.


Why?
Because mafia!HF should have remembered a game from 2020 based on rayn's cryptic post?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 00:29 GMT
#522
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
A little summary of my thoughts on the start of the game before I went to bed, before i have look at the rest.
Overall thoughts on dandel ion's start:
I often end up in exchanges like that on day 1. For some reason people tend to post stuff that doesn't make sense from a town perspective, be openly and obviously evasive about answering questions, and invariably end up being town.
He certainly doesn't appear to be 'hiding' the way i would expect mafia to, but I just can't get over how scummy some of his reasoning is.

? What would be that way?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
August 31 2022 00:41 GMT
#523
I'm back and I solved the game, but I only had acrylic acid at my disposal
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
August 31 2022 00:43 GMT
#524
On August 31 2022 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Im fucking done for today and i might even take a modkill and not vote tomorrow because this is retarded.


I'm retarded and I find this offensive
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
August 31 2022 00:43 GMT
#525
I got people in Finland
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
August 31 2022 00:54 GMT
#526
On August 31 2022 09:43 Vivax wrote:
I got people in Finland


Joking, it's just caribous tbh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 01:03 GMT
#527
On August 31 2022 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i don't even know what Rels is but he can die because the only reason i am playing this game is because he asked me to and i said yes while working basically 2,5 jobs and then he is not even playing.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
August 31 2022 01:10 GMT
#528
On August 31 2022 09:43 Vivax wrote:
I got people in Finland


Granted, I'd send the one I know to myself rather than have her stay there
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 01:11 GMT
#529
Caught up.
Top town Koshi and rayn for sure
Townie, maybe HF and MZ?

##Vote CopCake
Other candidates are Jock, Slam
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9650 Posts
August 31 2022 01:11 GMT
#530
holyflare asked what i think of his slam case:

On August 31 2022 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
I think Slam has a decent chance of being mafia too.

Firstly, I think his post here:

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 13:27 Alakaslam wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol.

Yes it does.


Is needlessly regressive. If you were in the game Rayn was talking about (which Slam was) then clarifying the typo to "this game" means nothing because it should have been obvious what he was talking about from the onset, in which case nothing changes.


I'm not sure what you mean by regressive in this context, but this actually looks pretty weak and nitpicky to me. I mean its arguable whether any of this is alignment indicative, but even if it is, its a pretty common thing for Slam to just post off the cuff 'reactions' to posts upon reading them for the first time, and I don't know if I would expect that kind of post to contain a level of depth that you can really read anything from. This comes across like one of those instances to me.

Really, you could argue that he is perfectly correct, even accepting that the clarification means nothing to slam (which is debateable), he could have posted this on the assumption that someone who was not in the game would be interested in what he had to say about it, given that its meaning was up for debate in the post he quoted.


Secondly, his reference in his opening post including:

Show nested quote +
I'm gonna get lynched for this aren't I?


is just the right level of self-deprecation I'd expect from someone hypersensitive about how their posts come across which in my experience, Slam, at least as town, is not.


I've seen slam act hypersensitive as both town and mafia, and on day 1 too. I've seen him get really frustrated at people scumreading him when he's town and quite paranoid about it, and from what i remember it happens more in the early game. Again this is unconvincing to me.

His further posts don't really lead to any kind of evaluation either. He was going to scum read Rayn but remembered Rayn was just bitter as either alignment, he gets into some weird mechanics argument with Dandel in #263 for a while (and actually in this post hesitates in scum reading Dandel?)

Then he circularly references his original suspicion in #269 saying he has no scum reads and that maybe Rayn is just mafia after all?

It doesn't read like a genuine thought process and I think he was afraid to push too far onto Dandel for fear of repercussions, rather than a genuine intent to solve Dandel's alignment.


This is by far the strongest part of your case. It could read as either a bit of random-ish flailing around on slam's part, or scummy nothingposting, but like you i'm struggling to see the townie logic, and even though I agree with him about some points its like he doesn't want to commit to them yet.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9650 Posts
August 31 2022 01:12 GMT
#531
I have quite a bit to catch up on.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9650 Posts
August 31 2022 01:13 GMT
#532
Oh its rayning guilt trips in here.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 01:14 GMT
#533
This post by Koshi is basically spot on.
On August 31 2022 05:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
[quote]

Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

lol?

did you skip HF post on purpose?

Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

The nested quotes are interesting conversations pushing the game forward.
You question is super random. You ask who was in the game? Why?
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
[quote]
did you skip HF post on purpose?

Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia
This player list:
1. Alakaslam
2. ShoCkeyy
4. Jockmcplop
3. Grackaroni
5. Tictock
6. Raynpelikoneet
7. Fecalfeast
8. Vivax
9. Hapahauli
10. Trfel


Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.

So did you ask specifically to know HF was in there? If so, why not explain what you thought about HF's reaction?
Such passive play.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
[quote]
But responded to the very next one:
[quote]
But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia
This player list:
1. Alakaslam
2. ShoCkeyy
4. Jockmcplop
3. Grackaroni
5. Tictock
6. Raynpelikoneet
7. Fecalfeast
8. Vivax
9. Hapahauli
10. Trfel


Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.

Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?


I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot.
I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players.
And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.

How did HFs reaction made sense? rayn mistyped and said something incomprehensible.
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb

I assume he meant 'this game has a mafia rb that does actually rb.

But that doesn't matter. The "What?" from HF was warranted because rayn was talking gibberish.




So I still don't know why you asked the player list and didn't just participate with the conversation that was happening right there in the thread.
I still don't know why HF reaction was potential scummy (you claimed it would have been scummy if he wasn't in the game)
And I still think you invented a reasoning after rayn pressured you about Jock and HF.

Can you explain the bolded? I am still curious.

I can't imagine the mindset of CopCake there.
rayn posts a cryptic post. HF posts "What?". Later, it's revealed that rayn was talking about another game, and that it was a trap for Vivax.
Now in CopCake's mind, if HF was in that previous game, he shouldn't have posted that because he should have remembered that previous game? But that makes no sense. rayn's post was cryptic, and the game was from 2020 anyway.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 01:16 GMT
#534
Like this:
On August 30 2022 19:42 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 19:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:06 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?


Are you saying you are not town?


On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


Are you talking of a past game or?


On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
[quote]

Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.

--


On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?


On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
[quote]
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia
This player list:
1. Alakaslam
2. ShoCkeyy
4. Jockmcplop
3. Grackaroni
5. Tictock
6. Raynpelikoneet
7. Fecalfeast
8. Vivax
9. Hapahauli
10. Trfel


Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.

Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?



On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
[quote]
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia
This player list:
1. Alakaslam
2. ShoCkeyy
4. Jockmcplop
3. Grackaroni
5. Tictock
6. Raynpelikoneet
7. Fecalfeast
8. Vivax
9. Hapahauli
10. Trfel


Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game.

Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first?


I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot.
I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players.
And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't.


Above 3 quotes show
1) HF post
2) rayn pressure on CC
3) CC answer to rain on said pressure.


Here I feel rayn tried to pressure CC on her "Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game." which implied that she asked the question to figure out the motive behind the HF post (aka scumhunting). Rayns pressure resulted in CC backtracking with "I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players." which again shows (ambiguous) she asked questions that are disconnected from actual scumhunting, while pretending she asks the questions because they are relevant to scumhunting.


So Copcape



I wasn't "backtracking", it was an honest "I assumed"

D:<

If HF was in that game, I would have tunneled him inmediatly but he wasn't so I have no reason.


Explain why please.


Because it would have been dumb/odd of him to continue to tunnel rayn on that if he was in the game, specially when he explained it was a phone derp.

And I will continue to ask questions, for example: Is it my meta to do this as mafia?
How is the "town copcake"?

What HF can't be called tunnel though??
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 01:16 GMT
#535
HF did*
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9650 Posts
August 31 2022 01:16 GMT
#536
On August 31 2022 09:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 09:43 Vivax wrote:
I got people in Finland


Joking, it's just caribous tbh

Oh God I laughed out loud.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 01:17 GMT
#537
Meh I guess it can be called a tunnel
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol.

On August 30 2022 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 04:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:16 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:12 deconduo wrote:
Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia

The question is, if you've noticed this pattern before, didn't you just vote for the people whose posts you liked?
How did it go?


Don't remember, its been years

Fair enough.

On August 30 2022 04:17 deconduo wrote:
My old rule was always vote Palmar day 1

Oh its ok the rule is vote palmar day 1 or if he's not there vote holyflare.

On August 30 2022 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Wait where did Rayn clarify his post? I don't think the typo changes the question lol.

His post makes sense after the clarification. It didn't before, I assume that why you posted 'what?'.


Why does saying this game has a rber that doesn't rb make any sense? Can't find anything about it in the OP.

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9650 Posts
August 31 2022 01:18 GMT
#538
While we're both here rels let me get to your question
RIP Meatloaf <3
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 01:19 GMT
#539
Her question comes after those 3 posts
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

lol?

did you skip HF post on purpose?

Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 31 2022 01:20 GMT
#540
On August 31 2022 10:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
While we're both here rels let me get to your question

Thanks. I have some posts of yours in a separate tab too :p
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