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On July 09 2020 06:14 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:12 Elentos wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. It's a bit of a meme to mention Future and leave out TIME. I'm not a believer in his TvT/TvP yet. He's semi region locked and the Chinese meta is funky.
I didn't realize China has enough terrans to have a TvT meta. Just kidding. I know TIME beats up Coffee from time to time.
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On July 09 2020 06:19 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:08 Solar424 wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. All it took was completely kneecapping Protoss and Zerg to get foreign Terrans to compete Yeah it is nice to not have to cope with the constant terran whining in these LR's but maybe there needs to be some adjustments still. Dem terrans sure rose up simultaneously. Maybe like all the Zergs over the last years they simultaneously figured out they're just more talented than players of the other races
Korea seems to be trending toward T > Z > P > T, maybe foreignland is following suit.
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On July 09 2020 06:22 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:19 Penev wrote:On July 09 2020 06:08 Solar424 wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. All it took was completely kneecapping Protoss and Zerg to get foreign Terrans to compete Yeah it is nice to not have to cope with the constant terran whining in these LR's but maybe there needs to be some adjustments still. Dem terrans sure rose up simultaneously. Maybe like all the Zergs over the last years they simultaneously figured out they're just more talented than players of the other races Korea seems to be trending toward T > Z > P > T, maybe foreignland is following suit. it seems to be what this franchise tends to favor
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LOL Battery overcharge good unit
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On July 09 2020 06:22 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:19 Penev wrote:On July 09 2020 06:08 Solar424 wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. All it took was completely kneecapping Protoss and Zerg to get foreign Terrans to compete Yeah it is nice to not have to cope with the constant terran whining in these LR's but maybe there needs to be some adjustments still. Dem terrans sure rose up simultaneously. Maybe like all the Zergs over the last years they simultaneously figured out they're just more talented than players of the other races Korea seems to be trending toward T > Z > P > T, maybe foreignland is following suit.
T > Z > P > T has been the status quo for almost all of LotV though the magnitude of the inequalities has varied quite a bit.
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What is up with Neeb? I mean in general, is he taking it easy nowadays? I´m always thinking he could be so much better than what i saw from him in the last year or so. In this case, why did he not try to wait until overcharge was running out or get out of range?
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On July 09 2020 06:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:22 Elentos wrote:On July 09 2020 06:19 Penev wrote:On July 09 2020 06:08 Solar424 wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. All it took was completely kneecapping Protoss and Zerg to get foreign Terrans to compete Yeah it is nice to not have to cope with the constant terran whining in these LR's but maybe there needs to be some adjustments still. Dem terrans sure rose up simultaneously. Maybe like all the Zergs over the last years they simultaneously figured out they're just more talented than players of the other races Korea seems to be trending toward T > Z > P > T, maybe foreignland is following suit. T > Z > P > T has been the status quo for almost all of LotV though the magnitude of the inequalities has varied quite a bit. We had a good chunk of Z > P & Z > T wherein T was just not as bad off as P. Also a bit of T > P. Incidentally all instances of P > Z lead to nerfs.
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On July 09 2020 06:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:22 Elentos wrote:On July 09 2020 06:19 Penev wrote:On July 09 2020 06:08 Solar424 wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. All it took was completely kneecapping Protoss and Zerg to get foreign Terrans to compete Yeah it is nice to not have to cope with the constant terran whining in these LR's but maybe there needs to be some adjustments still. Dem terrans sure rose up simultaneously. Maybe like all the Zergs over the last years they simultaneously figured out they're just more talented than players of the other races Korea seems to be trending toward T > Z > P > T, maybe foreignland is following suit. T > Z > P > T has been the status quo for almost all of LotV though the magnitude of the inequalities has varied quite a bit.
Agreed. The problem is for a long period last year T <= Z, which left barely any Terrans in tournaments for Protoss to feed on. And right now it feels like T > Z > P = T, so Protoss is struggling again. I am suprised by how little Protoss players complained in the last few years, and I say this as a Zerg.
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On July 09 2020 06:27 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On July 09 2020 06:22 Elentos wrote:On July 09 2020 06:19 Penev wrote:On July 09 2020 06:08 Solar424 wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. All it took was completely kneecapping Protoss and Zerg to get foreign Terrans to compete Yeah it is nice to not have to cope with the constant terran whining in these LR's but maybe there needs to be some adjustments still. Dem terrans sure rose up simultaneously. Maybe like all the Zergs over the last years they simultaneously figured out they're just more talented than players of the other races Korea seems to be trending toward T > Z > P > T, maybe foreignland is following suit. T > Z > P > T has been the status quo for almost all of LotV though the magnitude of the inequalities has varied quite a bit. We had a good chunk of Z > P & Z > T wherein T was just not as bad off as P. Also a bit of T > P. Incidentally all instances of P > Z lead to nerfs. I understand the nerfs. Usually whenever P>Z its accompanied by absolute cancer play-styles like 2 base all ins every game or turtle sky toss.
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On July 09 2020 06:29 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:27 Elentos wrote:On July 09 2020 06:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On July 09 2020 06:22 Elentos wrote:On July 09 2020 06:19 Penev wrote:On July 09 2020 06:08 Solar424 wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. All it took was completely kneecapping Protoss and Zerg to get foreign Terrans to compete Yeah it is nice to not have to cope with the constant terran whining in these LR's but maybe there needs to be some adjustments still. Dem terrans sure rose up simultaneously. Maybe like all the Zergs over the last years they simultaneously figured out they're just more talented than players of the other races Korea seems to be trending toward T > Z > P > T, maybe foreignland is following suit. T > Z > P > T has been the status quo for almost all of LotV though the magnitude of the inequalities has varied quite a bit. We had a good chunk of Z > P & Z > T wherein T was just not as bad off as P. Also a bit of T > P. Incidentally all instances of P > Z lead to nerfs. I understand the nerfs. Usually whenever P>Z its accompanied by absolute cancer play-styles like 2 base all ins every game or turtle sky toss. Just becomes questionable when there's a pattern of the things that work for Protoss getting nerfed very quickly without compensation whereas we all had to bear with BL/infestor for half a year last year for the 2nd time in SC2.
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I am so confused as to what Neeb is doing
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On July 09 2020 06:29 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:27 Elentos wrote:On July 09 2020 06:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On July 09 2020 06:22 Elentos wrote:On July 09 2020 06:19 Penev wrote:On July 09 2020 06:08 Solar424 wrote:On July 09 2020 06:06 royalroadweed wrote: NA Clem did it. Gabe, uthermal, Juan, Clem, Future. I don't think the foreign terran line up has ever been this strong or this deep in all of sc2 + sc1. All it took was completely kneecapping Protoss and Zerg to get foreign Terrans to compete Yeah it is nice to not have to cope with the constant terran whining in these LR's but maybe there needs to be some adjustments still. Dem terrans sure rose up simultaneously. Maybe like all the Zergs over the last years they simultaneously figured out they're just more talented than players of the other races Korea seems to be trending toward T > Z > P > T, maybe foreignland is following suit. T > Z > P > T has been the status quo for almost all of LotV though the magnitude of the inequalities has varied quite a bit. We had a good chunk of Z > P & Z > T wherein T was just not as bad off as P. Also a bit of T > P. Incidentally all instances of P > Z lead to nerfs. I understand the nerfs. Usually whenever P>Z its accompanied by absolute cancer play-styles like 2 base all ins every game or turtle sky toss.
These playstyles are bad, but the most traumatising composition of all time (BL/Inf) was allowed to dominate ZvP lategame for ages, so its weird that only Protoss gets its abusive shit nerfed immediately.
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The most insane thing about BL/Infestor is that it happened TWICE
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These US players need to stop attacking their own air units
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On July 09 2020 06:33 Penev wrote: The most insane thing about BL/Infestor is that it happened TWICE SC2's design favors air units, and Brood Lords are Zerg's only good air unit against ground, so it makes sense.
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On July 09 2020 06:34 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2020 06:33 Penev wrote: The most insane thing about BL/Infestor is that it happened TWICE SC2's design favors air units, and Brood Lords are Zerg's only good air unit against ground, so it makes sense. Not to have it be such a problem for a long time.. twice
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On July 09 2020 06:34 Elentos wrote: These US players need to stop attacking their own air units
it's an allegory for the failing airline industry in these troubled times
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Neeb is getting bopped aiai
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