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On May 08 2019 21:44 wherebugsgo wrote: idk I think grack’s push on me actually makes him seem really townie.
Like if I were town in his situation and I didn’t agree with you, VE, I probably wouldn’t rule myself out as scum. Like, from that perspective I don’t think he sees a good reason to townread me because he’s aware to some degree that I can play an active scum game.
Unlike slam, who I think doesn’t have enough in the way of opinion-conveying posts, my problem on grack is that it is sometimes hard to follow the logic and rationale for his thoughts. The actual results of those thoughts aren’t my terrible.
I also recognize that a scum here would know they need to paint both myself and Pandain badly because it helps in endgame when only one of us is alive Wtf you just said that you suspected me for pushing you.
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On May 08 2019 21:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll say that Grack strikes me as a deadline player regardless of alignment. :O
(Actually I do show up at pretty much every deadline of every game I play. I really like the shenannies)
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On May 08 2019 21:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 04:56 Grackaroni wrote: lol HF if you flip mafia I am going to look sooooo shitty. Even at the time I read this post as Show nested quote +On May 05 2019 04:56 VE saw Grackaroni write: lol HF when you flip town I am going to look sooooo gooooooooood.
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On May 09 2019 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2019 21:44 wherebugsgo wrote: idk I think grack’s push on me actually makes him seem really townie.
Like if I were town in his situation and I didn’t agree with you, VE, I probably wouldn’t rule myself out as scum. Like, from that perspective I don’t think he sees a good reason to townread me because he’s aware to some degree that I can play an active scum game.
Unlike slam, who I think doesn’t have enough in the way of opinion-conveying posts, my problem on grack is that it is sometimes hard to follow the logic and rationale for his thoughts. The actual results of those thoughts aren’t my terrible.
I also recognize that a scum here would know they need to paint both myself and Pandain badly because it helps in endgame when only one of us is alive Wtf you just said that you suspected me for pushing you.
I reread and thought more about it and given I flipped my read only after you flipped yours I thought there was more to that.
I think your tone is extremely blunt in comparison to, for instance, MZ, and I think that’s a good sign you are town.
I think the Vivax thing is a red herring and just you not noticing that calling Pandain for that makes very little sense from an outside perspective (but probably as a townie you just don’t care/have the awareness for that because it would be pointless for you to think about it making you look scummy)
Anyway I’m more convinced both grack and slam are town here now and I’m down to just lynch MZ. He’s gonna have to come in here and make some good arguments and he’s conspicuously always absent. Even when he posts, he doesn’t actually help figure out the game. We all have good reasons for being afk and that’s not alignment indicative to me.
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On May 08 2019 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote: MZ did martyr and if my gut tells me he is scum and your gut tells you he’s town, and that evidence says he’s town, l say we just go with he’s town ?
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On May 08 2019 22:55 VisceraEyes wrote:I want to believe that there's enough information in the thread to solve this shit right now. I just can't put it all together. I'm not strong enough. I don't know what to look for. I hate being one of the people mafia bring to endgame because I'm dumb. Well you shot Koshi and I'm pretty sure you're dying tonight.
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I think Grack and Slam are both town.
VE is town. I am town.
Bugs vs Pandain; I've got Pandain as scum.
MZ>Pandain and we win.
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I really fucking like slams posts
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I don't think he's mafia anymore. That's what I was waiting for something truly alignment indicative
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On May 09 2019 00:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I think Grack and Slam are both town.
VE is town. I am town.
Bugs vs Pandain; I've got Pandain as scum.
MZ>Pandain and we win. Why do you think Grack and slam are town?
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On May 08 2019 23:11 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2019 23:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Mmmmeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhh
I rescind my townread of MZ. His early activity WAS high, but it feels like it's mostly in response to the quick wagon on him. He quickly fucks off when no suspicion is on him.
A lot of the posts he makes are superficial, like his opening post about lynching scum claims or that one where he talks about agreeing about having multiple wagons. Contrived, meant to appear townie while adding nothing substantive. Is there any mafia that begs this hard to be lynched? ...
Pandain is mafia.
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Lol Pandain if you are mafia and get lynched by Slam/MZ in final three.
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K, me & VE & slam town
Someone pulls the short straw and has to decide between grack and Pandain at 2v1.
At 2v1 I think flipping a coin is still the best bet
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On May 09 2019 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2019 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote: MZ did martyr and if my gut tells me he is scum and your gut tells you he’s town, and that evidence says he’s town, l say we just go with he’s town ?
Both VE and Pandain saying MZ is town (and even getting a bit indignant about it) -> fine I’m wrong let’s not lynch MZ
VE flipped that read shortly after though.
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On May 09 2019 01:33 wherebugsgo wrote: K, me & VE & slam town
Someone pulls the short straw and has to decide between grack and Pandain at 2v1.
At 2v1 I think flipping a coin is still the best bet Lynch Pandain and you win
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Like it's just dumb, two martyrs, they can't both be the last mafia.
Whichever of you is town, I wish you had just been town instead of letting it get to this point. The other is now probably going to win. You should be ashamed of yourself. Whichever it was.
If you're both town and it's like Bugs or Grack, then I simply cannot.
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MZ you still want to be lynched?
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On May 09 2019 00:11 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2019 21:27 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 08 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote: When your main argument against him is "he never mentioned Koshi!" you know that it's a pretty weak argument. And it's not because he's not mafia, it's because there's literally nothing in the filter you can analyze. He might as well not have posted at all than post 8 pages, it's the same result. I disagree with your premise. Koshi flipped as the mafia team's most important role. Especially given their only other role was modkilled. Slam replacing in and then proceeding to ignore Koshi entirely, while everyone else who's alive today had at the very least mentioned Koshi or drawn attention to him at the time, is entirely damning in my eyes. Fucking hell VE you dumbass. Did I ever mention HF while he was alive? How about WBG do I mention WBG much at all? How about grack I have almost nothing to say about him right? How about VIvax? You didn't mention anyone. It's not exonerating to you and doesn't change my point at all. You ignored a bunch of posts by a bunch of people trying to draw attention to Koshi. It doesn't matter that you didn't mention X people because the important part is that you didn't mention Koshi. How does the fact that you didn't mention HF or WBG or Grack change anything about what I said about Koshi? Koshi was the roleblocker. Not WBG, not grack, not HF. My point is that what little time you actually did spend in the thread was spent appealing to me directly and throwing shade on Pandain. In spite of having read a bunch and being caught up.
Now, I'm sorry that ad hominem attacks are more appealing to you than actual logic, but they're certainly not swaying me in the direction you probably desire. Address the substance of my argument rather than attacking me personally. Or get written off entirely.
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On May 09 2019 01:33 wherebugsgo wrote: K, me & VE & slam town
Someone pulls the short straw and has to decide between grack and Pandain at 2v1.
At 2v1 I think flipping a coin is still the best bet Can't believe you give slam a town read before me
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