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On March 03 2019 02:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 15:05 Chezinu wrote:On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I've been out of my fix for far too long, it's about time we got this started :D
People are being shy violets right now but I like what probulous has posted thus far.
Looking back at PYP insane, Chez tried to look as scummy as possible and people passed it off as "just chez being chez." Looking at his opening post I almost feel like a similar theme is in the offing. It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post but I just want to put this out there, especially since there since foolishness and I are the only other people who were in that game so he may feel he can get away with it again.
gotta get out dat FoS: Chezinu On July 16 2012 15:45 Blazinghand wrote:On July 16 2012 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 16 2012 15:41 Blazinghand wrote:On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post ...
FoS: Chezinu ._. What part of FoS is me calling Chez scum? Can you tell me what FoS means? FoS means "I, Meapak_Ziphh, am afraid of putting out a strong stance because I'm worried I'll find out that Chez is scum with me-- I need an out" according to mafiascum wiki When Mafias Fight each other! On January 05 2013 17:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hey guys I'm not scum. Just getting that out of the way so we don't waste time tomorrow. ok.. On July 07 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 07 2013 09:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-. Nobody listen to this. This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash. No, what loses town high KP games is the fact that townies or scum shoot town. Xatalos is the fucking towniest guy in thread besides gumshoe. You are probably scum for questioning me besides Chezinu's reasons for nuking Xata. ##Unvote:
##Vote: Chezinu Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game. You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus. I'd be down a for a rayn lynch. Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here. Such fun times.. Holy shit Chez with deep dive. I'm not sure why you brought all of that up except that I seem to be trying to lynch you in all those games? I haven't said anything against you this game lmao. Those games are also like... 6 or 7 years old.
None has a deeper nostalgia, a wider memory, a greater appropriateness for this game.
I scumread chezinu but I want him the last member alive. He has earned that distinction.
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On March 03 2019 02:46 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:On March 03 2019 02:36 Alakaslam wrote:
I really don’t want FecalFeast to be lynched. But I believe it is somehow still going to happen.
I townread him though. May my foresight be wrong or my read. I don't think anyone wants to lynch him atm dunno you fear he will be lynched atm? Well I declared it in a moment of thoughtlessness. The curse™️ will start without my approval
Ugh I not getting what you saying but ok. How you reading your master Chez?
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On March 03 2019 02:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:28 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 01:55 Holyflare wrote:
Also I don't believe any towny posts catch up posts like he's doing and presses submit and then ignores every post around his and doesn't respond to it. There's no way anyone can resist the temptation to defend themselves in that situation and they would be wanting to solve the game. Whoa nelly homboii I do that all the time, it can be hard to see stuff on a phone. There's a difference between phone posting to make a comment + just existing and writing a wall of text and just disappearing.
There is truth here.
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On March 03 2019 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:46 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:On March 03 2019 02:36 Alakaslam wrote:
I really don’t want FecalFeast to be lynched. But I believe it is somehow still going to happen.
I townread him though. May my foresight be wrong or my read. I don't think anyone wants to lynch him atm dunno you fear he will be lynched atm? Well I declared it in a moment of thoughtlessness. The curse™️ will start without my approval Ugh I not getting what you saying but ok. How you reading your master Chez?
By his behavior. He is trying to survive, not find people.
Remember his actions are all both flavorful and potent. There is a potency to almost everything he says.
So when his potency for self defense is much stronger than his potency to discover...
Yeah. Not actually a difficult read for me to make.
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I wish I could put KakaoTalk emoji in here. They are so...
Different.
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On March 03 2019 02:52 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:On March 03 2019 02:46 Alakaslam wrote:On March 03 2019 02:38 LightningStrike wrote:On March 03 2019 02:36 Alakaslam wrote:
I really don’t want FecalFeast to be lynched. But I believe it is somehow still going to happen.
I townread him though. May my foresight be wrong or my read. I don't think anyone wants to lynch him atm dunno you fear he will be lynched atm? Well I declared it in a moment of thoughtlessness. The curse™️ will start without my approval Ugh I not getting what you saying but ok. How you reading your master Chez? By his behavior. He is trying to survive, not find people. Remember his actions are all both flavorful and potent. There is a potency to almost everything he says. So when his potency for self defense is much stronger than his potency to discover... Yeah. Not actually a difficult read for me to make.
Ya you posted the answer before i made that post seems fair.
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On March 02 2019 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I feel confident in this so far:
Vivax
Rayn
Jockmcplop
I think that Rayn is reading MZ's posts wrong but I believe that he's actually trying to reason out MZ's motivations for the posts that he makes. I don't think MZ's posts have been scummy.
I think Vivax's posts are very very likely to come from town Vivax.
There is one person that I have a gut feeling is scum but it's not worth getting into yet and I want to see more posts.
I don't like posts like this. I see little value in just giving a slew of green reads and leaving out your one "gut feeling" Its easy to call people town, especially so if you're mafia because you know you're right. And there's very little point in hiding your scum reads. Bring it up and make them talk more. That's how you actually catch scum.
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On March 02 2019 19:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also, even though I'm using the mayor slot to demonstrate where my townreads are, it's pretty irrelevant. Regardless of who we pick they should just be held accountable for lynching who town wants to lynch -shrugs-
Or are you suggesting rayn that we just leave that to the mayor and not simply use it as a second lynch mechanic?
100% agree with this. Going off this logic Rsoul would be my vote for Mayor.
Also, just enjoying this interaction between Rayn and Rsoul.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do.
Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles.
I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever.
Pretty sure that's me, and I don't give a shit kus you always seem to hate the way I interact with the game.
I also strongly disagree about Rayn, I see him pushing his own thoughts and thinking and explaining why, nothing circular at all.
HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Like for me it breaks down like this:
You've got trolling people. You've got lurking people. You've got lazy people. You've got some overly aggressives that aren't giving me warm fuzzies (MP). You've got people I'm not sure about who when I'm not sure about them have a nasty habit of being scum (Rayn) but because he's burned me so often I'm not sure if that's not where the uncertainty's coming from.
And then you have seemingly excited to play, I respect the shit out of his intelligence Chez playing but not saying anything interesting. That first group can hide a lot of bad town play. But doing something without doing anything ticks off my scum meter to a higher degree.
Rsoul is starting to convince me... Idk. I don't particularly want to lynch Chez myself but I get where her read is coming from, and I am not opposed to a Chez lynch.
#540
Bloody's entry doesn't jive well with me, but mostly due to their reads being pretty opposite to my own. I can sorta see the logic in Bloody's reads, but it's very much in a scum-range of what to post to enter the game. Gut read leans scum, but I think deserves more to be on my watch list.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
Meap
Grack
Jock
Mr. Wiggles
Acro
Bloddy
HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present)
Rels is also close to being on this list for "playing" but only making a "Hi" post then laughing at something rayn did. He only escapes this list because I know he has actively avoided playing D1 as town in recent games. It's the fact that he tried to play a little but didn't actually that almost has him on it.
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On March 02 2019 23:39 Conversion wrote:
also he was trying to fish for something completely irrelevant, like why I picked those names. which the answer is going to be totally NAI anyways because why would I say anything besides "I randomly picked those names for a joke"
Is that why you picked them? You pitched a fit over me asking and I just realized I don't think you ever answered lol.
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On March 03 2019 00:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:25 Trfel wrote:On March 02 2019 23:36 Vivax wrote:On March 02 2019 23:25 LightningStrike wrote:On March 02 2019 22:39 Vivax wrote:
Trfels posts on this page read to me like a bit of minimum effort "scumhunting" coupled with sucking up to rsoultin when poked. I think you might be reading to much into it? Didn't seem like he was trying to suck it up to Tina at least to me. No? How come he just agrees lazily without even looking up what rso was talking about and realizing that what she "pointed out" wasn't even about Tubesock who mistakenly thought he was being mentioned. What? That's actually strictly false because I did do that. But it doesn't matter because Tubesock thought he wad being mentioned, so it doesn't matter that it wasn't even about him. So you don't agree with rso any more? Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:19 Conversion wrote:
As rayn said, his scum read on me is that I am trailing 2 of my mafia buddies in there as some sort of strategy, and when I specified the reason in the earlier quote [quote=Conversion]is your ironclad case of me being mafia the fact that I threw 6 random names as mafia? , he nitpicked my use of the word ironclad and ran with it. So I dropped it, found him suspicious, and moved on
[b]There is to date no official scumread from MZ on you. MZ wanted to know why those names cause if you are maybe mafia then you mixed in a few buddies in there. Don't ask me how he would have analyzed an answer if you gave it to him.[b]
Jesus fuck thank you lol. I started this yesterday just to get information. Calling someone confirmed scum off their first post in the thread is retarded. Did I find conversion's first post suspect? Yes. Did I want more information and to get him to talk more? Yes. In a way it worked but I don't understand why he keeps spinning it as me calling him scum. I'm not even voting for him rn yet you'd think I was about to drop the lynch hammer vote on him. His defensiveness is more suspicious than anything.
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On March 03 2019 01:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case? you haven't read your role pm but you have a town read on yourself ![[image loading]](https://i.lensdump.com/i/AqeSyD.gif)
Someone said that they were suspicious of imp, I'm now down with it.
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On March 03 2019 02:28 iamperfection wrote:
ace you have anything useful to say about alignments you have only talked about the mayor?
Who is your top scum read at the moment?
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On March 03 2019 03:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 01:35 iamperfection wrote:On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case? you haven't read your role pm but you have a town read on yourself Someone said that they were suspicious of imp, I'm now down with it.
I'm not suspicious of him but the way he always replies to people without quoting them annoys me greatly. I think it might be a tactic to make filters less useful.
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On March 03 2019 02:13 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote:
I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations.
Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check). sounds like a retarded plan to me.
Why
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On March 03 2019 03:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:28 iamperfection wrote:
ace you have anything useful to say about alignments you have only talked about the mayor? Who is your top scum read at the moment?
i dont know
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probably wont decide until tomorrow
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Lol I forgot this game started and now there's 20 mages to go through and I'm at work
Why did I do this
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On March 03 2019 03:26 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 02:13 iamperfection wrote:On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote:
I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations.
Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check). sounds like a retarded plan to me. Why
You want to give a power to a player who you have no idea who is town or scum.
And if the player is bad they might do something stupid if they are town.
The goal is to lynch scum nothing more.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn
MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.
Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?
And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him?
Vivax, Just my 2 cents: I read Conv's post you are referring to as more of an attack on Meap than defensive.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Town:
LightningStrike
Tumblewood
Conversion
Trfel
Tictock
Vivax
rsoultin
Maybe town:
Holyflare
Jockmcplop
ExO_
Mocsta
Rels
Maybe mafia:
iamperfection
Meapak_Ziphh
Alakaslam
Acrofales
Other people i have no idea about, except i feel like something 's off with sicklucker and fecalfeast but i can't point out directly what. Gonna try to sleep a bit more now, i caught a food poisoning on thursday so the last couple of days haven't been well for me regarding sleep and food.
I can get behind Rayn's list post here. Expect his Maybe Town reads on Mocsta and Rels, I don't know how on earth Rayn thinks he has enough to go on from either of them to even maybe have a townread on them.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 21:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:58 rsoultin wrote:
What are your reads that don't matter BC? Why the hell would I post a read that doesnt matter? If i don't have someone directly pinned as green/red they are neutral until a) I have time to filter dive them and get a better idea of a read b) They do something that pushes them one way or the other. Talking about my "42%" chance to be scum read as an example serves basically no fucking point.
Like the tone of Bloody's 2nd post, he may have been per-maturley added to the watchlist.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 21:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn
MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.
Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?
And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him? Read again, MZ never said Conversion isn't mafia. He said quite the opposite, and i understood perfectly what Conversion was pushing him about. That being said i think that particular answer later on where he explains his stance on Conversion can come easily come from either town or scum, which is why i dropped the conversation about it. MZ was poking him about it as he said himself and that's how I was reading the entire thing. It's just you and conversion that seemingly are construing it as a scumread. Show nested quote +riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny
if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke And this quote from Conversion isn't something a townie would ever write. "Hey I made a joke post about me being mafia. Let me explain why if it weren't a joke post, it wouldn't make me mafia"
Eh, Vivax beating something that bugs him into the ground makes me feel somewhat ok Townreading him, but I think he is wrong and am now tired of reading about it.
Wow... And apparently Rayn and I agree about this... Spooky.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:To also add on to Vivax's point about conversion as a point of context. Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 11:00 Conversion wrote:On March 02 2019 10:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:56 Conversion wrote:On March 02 2019 10:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What does it matter who he picked and why if he isn't actually mafia? lol who says he's not mafia? is your ironclad case of me being mafia the fact that I threw 6 random names as mafia? On March 02 2019 10:55 Chezinu wrote:On March 02 2019 10:50 Holyflare wrote:On March 02 2019 10:45 Tumblewood wrote:On March 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 02 2019 10:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons  Y u say this? This is the most suspicious thing in the game. nuh uh this is On March 02 2019 10:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 02 2019 10:41 Conversion wrote:On March 02 2019 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:
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So you saying Trfel lied about being mafia earlier? yeah we should lynch him for lying tbh Hmm. I'm gonna go with the assumption that you're just BSing. But I wanna know why you picked those specific players for you scum team? I can get behind this case. Absolutely. Holyflare, Corporate has heard of your desires to be included in the case concerning Conversion. You are now lead investigator on the manner. The executive committee is proud of your high quality work that has been done in such a short amount of time. I am confident that you will perform well in this investigation. Go forth! ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/vDCUUiL.png?2) Chezinu Isunizehc I don't think he's casing me unless I'm reading his quote wrong I wonder where you read me having an ironclad case on you. riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke As Mafia I have more than once bussed my team so that when I died people would ignore all my analysis / reads of who I thought was mafia and pick people I avoided talking about etc... Its led to more wins than it ever should have. Causing chaos / a nice cover for your team is never playing against your win con if you are mafia. Also he said he wanted to lynch Trfel for lying then proceeded to lie himself -_-
Bloody's bolded statement is a fair point (though from my experience with conversion isn't terribly AI, as he just sometimes doesn't make sense), but I have a hard time believing anyone thinks an opening post of "I"m mafia, my team is X,Y,Z" is anything related to bussing their team. Going a bit back and forth on Bloody, also the paper work to remove someone from my watch list is a bitch so he will likely remain there for now.
Also just a bit odd that Bloody has such a strong opinion regarding Conv here, yet just told Rsoul that he doesn't have any solid reads past his opening post...
+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 21:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote + if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post Or in other words: If you believe I'm mafia, then you believe I actually put my teammates into the list. But I'm not mafia cause that's against mafia wincon. There's so much wrong in that post. The more I read it the more it keeps on giving.
Vivax, might I suggest letting it go for now and moving on? You seem rather stuck on this one post and there is already a bunch of other stuff to read.
Ok reading up through page 28 is as far as I get this morning.
Feeling waffley on Bloody still, but no experience playing with him so will just have to wait to read more.
I think I will be working through deadline tomorrow, and not sure I will have much time to catchup with reading. Will likely just leave my vote, but am willing to sheep Rsoul on Chez or move to anyone I included on my WatchList. I will try to make a little time tonight to read a bit more, but not making any promises.
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Aight I'm probably still drunk but I'm caught up with the thread.
I hated that third dude who scum claimed as his thread entry, that makes him, trfel, and conversion.
I Don't like iamp's constant questions and no reads, there are also a few others who are doing that as well but iamp is the most obvious.
I'm still running for mayor so vote me and I'll lynch one of the three people who claimed scum with their first post
Gonna take a nap
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