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The result is absolutely astounding. I can see ridiculous detail at ridiculous distances.
I can see the fine lines and colours of misted hills beyond hills on a pencil horizon.
I can see into the eyes of people in passing cars or directly into the eyes of people across the street as I pass.
I can see every detail of plants and trees, bricks on houses - environments are incredibly absorbing and interesting to look at.
I can see the tiny hairs on people's arms, and every one of dozens of individual, detailed faces in a crowd of people that I'm standing within.
I am compelled to focus on people's faces with intent and interest when talking with them. I used to be described as having 'dead eyes', and had a dull, lack of confidence and attention on the world around me. Now, it's like I am eager to suck in the detail around me, to interact and to offer interaction and expression of my own. I feel much sharper and brighter mentally, because of this.
Confidence in my appearance from not having crooked, murky glasses on my (very crooked) face, confidence from being able to intently see things and people around me at a completely crazy, coked-up level. It's just so fucking good for me.
Your mileage may vary. I'm a particularly visually-stimulated individual who gets high off of things he likes in a very strong way compared to other people. I also suffer from a range of confidence & anxiety issues, self expression issues, I'm not the brightest pencil in the box, and I'm dog-shit ugly. I was using a pair of cheap, non-reflective glasses that may or may not have been able to be fitted with better lenses, and have not tried contacts for 5-10 years. Because of these things, your mileage may vary compared to mine.
I found the surgery process rather terrifying. Here is how I describe the process, from my point of view. Others may disagree with my perception of this.
+ Show Spoiler + the procedure is they fire up this machine that sounds like a jet engine taking off u lie down flat on a padded bench and your head slots into a hole until he says you're in a decent position then a tube machine lowers around you eye and applies pressure barely to the point of pain around your eye socket over a few seconds your vision turns from white to black/blind you tense up like a madman and squeeze your hands like crazy its terrifying
then it lifts off and it's as if you've entered Event Horizon your vision is like on acid everythings red and black and white speckles
it distorts a few times as you're lying there squeezing ur hands and trying not to move as something (i guess the surgeon) reaches down and removes part of your eye
everything distorts, a few times, but its all red and black and white
then after he replaces the bit of your eye, i think another machine must come down on top of you and the red/black/white periscope sort of slowly explodes into a white light with a grey cross in the middle then the machine releases
then they immediately repeat it for the other eye without a break.
i cant remember what happens right then, but you get up everything is massively clouded and you walk to a bench to sit down then they start talking asking if you're alright everything is super clouded and i was just sitting there in complete shock they were talking to me but i was frozen stiff like i didnt want to move my head an inch until he asked me to look up so i looked at him then looked back straight again
i could see through the clouds, there was a eyesight test sign on the wall in front, i could immediately see that i
could see the finest line of words with clarity (though it was behind a white sheen/clouds in my vision)
for the rest of the day you're feeling in shock and cant bring yourself to think about how your vision is really you feel super fragile and dont want to move your head and look around
only today (2 day later) i started to have the confidence to look around at things properly
Here is an image blog of my journey to surgery: http://imgur.com/a/jxWhV There are 25 images
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Grats. Hope it improves life for you
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Thanks
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Congrats. Had my eye surgery 1.5 years ago, surely improves life quite a bit when you dont have to worry about glasses anymore. Sounds like you had the classic LASIK where they lift up the upper layer of the eye, then do the correction cut and close the flap again. I had to do trans-PRK where they cut through the outer layer without making the flap because they had to correct so much. Went from -6,5 to zero + astigmatism corrected. This is way more painful after the surgery because the eye is kinda open and has to heal first. I endured the worst pain of my life the night and day after the surgery. They had given me a heap of different eye drops including pain killing ones, but the fucked up thing is I did not know that and could not look at the medication because my eyes hurt so much. Next day I stumbled to the doc and I learned about the pain killers and was shocked that all that pain could have been avoided if they had just told me earlier. Oh well all over and all good now, very happy to have done it.
Btw what was the price for you? 2500 € both eyes together for me, I actually think that is cheap as fuck considering what you gain and it is not like glasses are cheap either.
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idk how anyone can be any more than what i was , 2.5 shortsighted i think, that was bad enough :3
omggggg dude that is insane, i totally get you because the same happened to me for about 40 minutes after my op, they put me in a room with my bag and went off to do my mom. i was in shock so nothing registered and spent a good 30 minutes banging my head on the wall close to tears until i noticed the bag and it occured to me that there would be anesthetic drops in there somewhere (i was in shock/mentally confused). god damn man, glad it didn't cause any complications for you
i believe it was £4300 or more . to someone on minimum wage , that is like 1-2 years of savings :\ but my mom paid for everything. to the people who spend 3x that money just updating their car and ipod every year............ yeah, go figure
i'm looking forward now to seeing if the slight double vision/focus trouble/something at medium/long distance goes away after a while. i wouldn't give a jot if it doesn't, but it would be even one more step of insane if it does
how am i supposed to keep my eyes from staring at girls now, i'm bad enough as it is.............笑
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That's great it worked out for you. Enjoy the novelty while it lasts.
My vision is okay short distance. I always considered it a kind of advantage to have poor long range vision without glasses. Because putting on my glasses is a simple task, and taking them off let's me shut out some noise, like advertisements in the city or just softening everything out. I mostly don't wear my glasses, so the novelty of things becoming sharp is always available. I guess if I had to wear glasses all the time I might want the surgery.
Don't be too hard on yourself about your looks or intelligence. Partly because it's sad, partly because it's vain.
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On August 05 2017 04:16 FFGenerations wrote: i'm looking forward now to seeing if the slight double vision/focus trouble/something at medium/long distance goes away after a while. i wouldn't give a jot if it doesn't, but it would be even one more step of insane if it does
I had similar problems after the surgery. Kind of double vision or slight reflections of what you look at. Especially noticeable when looking at letters on a screen. Next to a black line would be slightly diminished copies of that line, like 3-4. But it got less noticeable over time and after like 6 months it almost completely disappeared. I think it happens when the cuts are not completely healed yet and you have slight fault lines in the eye ball which cause some additional refraction.
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dude wtf, dogshit ugly?
you're a handsome man, no bullshit! at least imo Just your body language is bad, and styling horrible :p
Please put a picture in a button up shirt, standing straight, and head pointing straight, and think of something good in life (so your face gets more positive). You'll see a world of difference.
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That's one thing that kinda freaks me out about having LASIK, everything that happens while you are awake. I feel like it would freak me out lol even though I hear they give you valium beforehand to calm you down. I do want to get LASIK eventually though as my vision is horrible and like you said it would be nice not to worry about glasses again. Hell, Lasik wouldn't have to take long to save money these days either with the cost of optometrist appointments and glasses.
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most importantly, does it improve your starcraft map awareness?
I need my blurry vision, sometimes it is useful like getting me through doing presentations in university.
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Fuck Ive been wanting to do this for so long, my left eye is 20/20 but my right eye is like I spent my childhood crosseyed with the right eye pointed at the sun.
This both encourages and thoroughly scares the shit out of me.
Is there a way to opt into sedation for this procedure??
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my eye doctor says i'm a good candidate for laser eye surgery since my prescription hasn't changed in a few years but it sounds way too scary :O I'll stick with contacts for now :D Thanks for sharing though! And as previously said, you're not ugly by a long shot
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LASIK is still that one-off expensive? Damn back to contacts and glasses...
I'm surprised by your description of how quickly your eyes started to function and heal normally almost immediately after they basically just blasted parts of your corona with a laser beam.
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On August 06 2017 12:54 Zambrah wrote: Fuck Ive been wanting to do this for so long, my left eye is 20/20 but my right eye is like I spent my childhood crosseyed with the right eye pointed at the sun.
This both encourages and thoroughly scares the shit out of me.
Is there a way to opt into sedation for this procedure??
Your eyes are numbed with eye drops and held open during the procedure anyway. I've heard from relatives and friends that it doesn't hurt at all, just feels weird as you're 100% awake while experiencing temporary blindness but beyond that I'm told it's a very quick process.
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On August 06 2017 04:10 Enki wrote: That's one thing that kinda freaks me out about having LASIK, everything that happens while you are awake. I feel like it would freak me out lol even though I hear they give you valium beforehand to calm you down. I do want to get LASIK eventually though as my vision is horrible and like you said it would be nice not to worry about glasses again. Hell, Lasik wouldn't have to take long to save money these days either with the cost of optometrist appointments and glasses.
it freaked me the fuck out, and i've had all sorts of hallucinogenic, disassociative experiences before. if the girl nurse asks if you want to hold a squeezy ball, say yes. i spent the whole process squeezing my hands for dear life. but other people say i'm an idiot and that they didn't even bat an eyelid
On August 06 2017 11:52 ETisME wrote: most importantly, does it improve your starcraft map awareness?
I need my blurry vision, sometimes it is useful like getting me through doing presentations in university.
i haven't tried gaming yet, but i imagine it would help. 90%+ of the time that i play i would need my glasses (even though i'm shortsighted), so i probably benefit from losing any glare, annoyances, discrepancies from glasses.
in addition, i can now sit back far from the computer and see the whole screen - i use a 27'' screen so sitting close means i cant see the minimap and have to turn my whole head to look around, and would have greatly reduced map awareness.
in order to get the screen as close as possible, i actually balance my keyboard over the base stand of the monitor (i attach a bit of cardboard to the base of my keyboard as the Razor Deathstalker has an annoyingly non-flat base). now, i can just move the monitor back a bit on the desk. (makes me wonder how bad my glasses prescription was and how good 'non-reflective glasses' must be lol...)
i think another and easy-forgotten point is that your ability to cope with dim light is totally different. dim light (with glasses) would destroy me (and irritate me a lot) pre lasik. now it's like...i dont know, i may as well have come from the anime Ghost in the Shell (where people have opitcal implants or whatever)....
like i said, i have not tried expensive glasses ever, and not used contact lenses for 10 years, so you may be better off with those
On August 06 2017 12:54 Zambrah wrote:
Is there a way to opt into sedation for this procedure??
no idea, but if not you can take about 5 neurofen+ and will get sedated by the opioid in them (or ask your doctor for some pure codeine tablets)
On August 06 2017 14:32 Disregard wrote: LASIK is still that one-off expensive? Damn back to contacts and glasses...
I'm surprised by your description of how quickly your eyes started to function and heal normally almost immediately after they basically just blasted parts of your corona with a laser beam.
i think i went to one of the more expensive/reputable places and you can find it a lot cheaper if you want
On August 06 2017 13:22 blabber wrote: my eye doctor says i'm a good candidate for laser eye surgery since my prescription hasn't changed in a few years but it sounds way too scary :O I'll stick with contacts for now :D Thanks for sharing though! And as previously said, you're not ugly by a long shot :3 it was scary for me but that's just my head doing its thing. other people will absolutely say i'm a moron for thinking it was scary
i went out yesterday and spent a decent deal of time practising trying to focus on mid-range and distant objects. i worked my eyes a lot doing this i think. i think it's a muscle that i'm going to need to train up (like training at the gym). it takes me a good while to be able to get my focus to hone in properly on distant objects. it's noticeable most on, say, the writing on the side of ships on the sea. i had to spend 5-30 minutes before i started being able to focus on these at various distances. on the way home my ability to focus was greatly improved, but i had knackered my eyes and wanted to keep them shut. getting them to be able to focus on demand is something i'm going to actively work on. i dont know if i'm just mad but i think this is my issue, because my glasses weren't sharp so my eyes literally haven't focused on anything beyond say 40 metres for a very very long time
a last thing i dont think mentioned about 'glasses being annoying' is that i have really shit, oily skin, which goes sore and blemishes quite easily. (like if i dont shower for a day or shave for 2-3 days then my skin deteriorates immediately and i look and feel like a burn victim, or sometimes it seems to just happen randomly).
rubbing from glasses would frequently cause me further irritation and pain because of this (to the point of me shouting and rage-throwing them from my face etc). for me that is another benefit from not needing them
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I was considering lasik a few years ago and went in for a consultation but my prescription changed slightly and then I didn't go back the following year. I also noticed almost no eye doctors have the procedure done themselves, the doctor I was considering said he always had good vision and never needed corrective lenses. Even though all my friends and people who have had it done say it's great, seeing nearly all who preform the procedure and even regular eye doctors never get it themselves was just something I noticed and wanted to explore why. I think in my brief research I found only a single eye doctor who had the procedure done on himself.
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I had LASIK a year ago and I could not have been happier. My only regret was not having it done earlier, the healing process was remarkable (and surprisingly) fast, it took a day later until I was seeing 15/20. The only thing that scared me was the possibility of blindness, and of course, the amount of checkboxes in my Informed Consent.
Edit - and I realized no one said anything about the smell, yes, you will smell your eyes getting lasered. :D
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