EPT7 Chinese Players Banned: Match-fixing & Smurfing - Page 2
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getg00d
United States120 Posts
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digmouse
China6323 Posts
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
The smurfing bans are weird. I didn't know the Chinese took it so seriously. | ||
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MyiPtitDrogo
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dyDrawer
Canada438 Posts
On June 10 2017 13:23 Solar424 wrote: One case is an isolated incident, two cases is a coincidence, three cases is an epidemic. I know that they're different scenes, but this is the third matchfixing incident and the 5th and 6th players that have been uncovered in the last 2 years. I can't help but think that there are more cases that are flying under the radar, like the suspicious ProLeague games. This could seriously damage SC2 in China, which was one of the last bastions of hope for this game, with WESG putting $400k into one tournament. This will just contribute to the vicious cycle of players getting greedy and matchfixing, followed by sponsors leaving the scene, leading to less money in the scene, which leads to players matchfixing to pay the bills etc. The smurfing bans are weird. I didn't know the Chinese took it so seriously. I found some further information that explains why this "smurfing" is so serious. In silky's KFC qualifier match against ein, silky asked punk to play as himself against ein. Silky then sat right next to punk, and fed punk information on what build ein was doing from watching the live stream. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36900 Posts
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
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Silky
United States260 Posts
On June 10 2017 12:43 -Kyo- wrote: In case it isn't clear to some readers, there are two players named Silky. One is an American player who is participating in the American WCS series. The one being talked about here is a different player, it is simply a chinese player with the same tag. Sad to hear about this though, many of them take part in many events.  Thanks for posting this, I don't want anyone to confuse me with this silky. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36900 Posts
On June 10 2017 13:42 Silky wrote: Thanks for posting this, I don't want anyone to confuse me with this silky. lol. Have you gotten any angry PMs yet? | ||
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meomaika
19 Posts
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Silky
United States260 Posts
Haha not yet  | ||
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Descent
1244 Posts
On June 10 2017 12:56 digmouse wrote: They smurfed on other's accounts to play in tournaments on their behalf. What this should be called in English? Masquerading? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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yht9657
1810 Posts
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
Life is never coming back. He shouldn't be. Neither should they. | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On June 10 2017 14:16 Circumstance wrote: I am very disturbed that these bans are not permanent. Especially the ones for Silky, Punk, and Coffee. Match fixing and cheating are not forgivable. Their Starcraft careers ought to be over. Life is never coming back. He shouldn't be. Neither should they. The difference between value of those two are not really equatable. The CH and KR scene are also quite different, and moreover, Life's position as a player is amplified by his previous placements. Personally, I've always thought, as it is in sports (generallllyy.. speaking) an appropriate punishment for what was done is fair enough. Once the players have served their time, if they show no repeat offense behavior, then give them that chance. It's quite tragic when hard stances are taken, as seen in the CS:GO scene where some of the best NA players were perm banned by valve, but have stated years later (while still being well respected in the community) they would donate all tournament earnings/do PR/PSAs/etc, just to have another chance to compete. That is their drive to play. The top players all respect them and this approach, but they are still shut out by valve. 2 years is a long, long time in esports. Just go check out the reddit thread on teams of the past to really put in perspective how much has changed in each iteration of SC2 in those time gaps. Just as a PS, if you really think hard stances should always be taken, then many players such as Major, and a few WCS EU players would also currently be perm banned for similar things, or smurfing in tournaments. People make mistakes, and in this case, it really sucks for these rising players but lets take a logical approach. To agree on some aspects: pathological/repeat offenders should always be quickly identified and never be given the next opportunity. | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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ploguidice
United States225 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On June 10 2017 14:40 ploguidice wrote: Hey digmouse I miss you <3. There's not really an equivalent term in English for what went on but I think calling it smurfing is really unfair because smurfing is a legimate thing you can do without breaking rules. I would classify it as "Falsely participating as another player in moneyed events". The law hasn't really caught up with esports here so we don't have an English or Latin word to describe this. Actually, in events with WCS points you are FORCED to use an account that ONLY you play on. Moreover, that account name will be what you are 'registered' as for the event season. When it comes to tournaments the WCS rulebook is actually quite clear that there is no smurfing allowed. Smurfing to ladder, or team house accounts for practice are still "allowed" as far as I know though; but these accounts are not used for tournaments. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 10 2017 14:40 ploguidice wrote: Hey digmouse I miss you <3. There's not really an equivalent term in English for what went on but I think calling it smurfing is really unfair because smurfing is a legimate thing you can do without breaking rules. I would classify it as "Falsely participating as another player in moneyed events". The law hasn't really caught up with esports here so we don't have an English or Latin word to describe this. You could call it fraudulent tournament smurfing. | ||
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