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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:43 GMT
#2381
Ok then... Was already half-expecting a rayn kill, but I guess it won't be so easy.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:44 GMT
#2382
rayn, were you trying to roleblock someone? Who? Calix was kind of the obv-save so...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:46 GMT
#2383
Well I guess this doesn't especially make rayn scum since they could have swiftly moved to roleblock rayn at night start. It's apparently time stamp based how that resolves.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:47 GMT
#2384
Oh and JK would also need to hit the Roleblocker for that to work.. and since someone else could carry the kill, it would only help to ensure Cop check I guess...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2017 21:48 GMT
#2385
hmmm...
who i am going to omgus at today then?

was gonna suggest we'd sort out oneg/amg/tw today.

somewhat thrown off here
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:48 GMT
#2386
Would really like to hear your reasoning for night actions rayn. And your last will you never wrote
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:50 GMT
#2387
+ Show Spoiler +
As a sidenote, all vanilla setup is a bit more likely with the most widely townread player being brazenly targeted. Not guaranteed though since there would be a Roleblocker if rayn is town, meaning his role isn't that dangerous, and he doesn't hold the kind of thread influence Calix did.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:53 GMT
#2388
Actually I'm considering if Cop should even claim today (if there is one). 2 checks should be decent enough, plus self-clear and clearing rayn.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:54 GMT
#2389
Kind of depends on the checks and who the Cop would be though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:56 GMT
#2390
My suggestion would be that if there's even one red-check, or two green-checks on the following players and/or the Cop himself is within these players...

Onegu
AMG
Tumblewood
disformation

... claiming could be a good idea.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 21:59 GMT
#2391
rayn should still be off the table for today, I think. Simply because the setup should reveal itself in 1-4 more deaths and so he'll be auto-lynched towards the end if he's scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2017 21:59 GMT
#2392
thats really tough with the cop.
i think red check should be claimed.
gives us basically 2 cycles to find the last scummer with ton of into.

dont think there was a possible setup with framer right?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2017 22:00 GMT
#2393
nah framer was vs doc, cop.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 22:01 GMT
#2394
On March 23 2017 06:48 disformation wrote:
hmmm...
who i am going to omgus at today then?

was gonna suggest we'd sort out oneg/amg/tw today.

somewhat thrown off here


[spoiler]##Vote disformation[/b]
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 22:01 GMT
#2395
Oops. Fail spoiler
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 22:02 GMT
#2396
No I think Doc would have claimed yesterday if that was the setup.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2017 22:02 GMT
#2397
yeah.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 22:04 GMT
#2398
So basically a red-check should always be accurate... And with a green-check it would be 50/50. We could at least gain the info that two players are never scum together though, and it could be nice enough depending on the players. Even more so for the long-term of course.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
March 22 2017 22:05 GMT
#2399
Main benefit would be self-clear & rayn-clear without a red-check though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States7999 Posts
March 22 2017 22:05 GMT
#2400
Hmmm killing Calix instead of the blue role? I don't get the thinking behind that because as Xata said, the whole rayn mafia conspiracy will kinda sort itself out as the game progresses. Why keep him alive?

Also vigi claim if there's a vigi?
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