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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:21 GMT
#2341
On March 22 2017 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
At least there was that game where I double-bussed with my scummate and you were SK. You then shot my surviving teammate thinking he was blue or something :D

Yeah i don't do well figuring out all mafia in scumteams that play horribly.


It wasn't that bad. If you didn't kill him and shot an actual blue instead, we'd have been around LYLO with 1 scum, 1 SK and a couple of town. And the scum would have had great credibility.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2017 13:23 GMT
#2342
On March 22 2017 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
At least there was that game where I double-bussed with my scummate and you were SK. You then shot my surviving teammate thinking he was blue or something :D

Yeah i don't do well figuring out all mafia in scumteams that play horribly.

That game was super funny though. I had all mafia but one figured out on D1 and tried my best to lynch townies but the town was so terrible i needed to actually help them a little (well it kinda escalated in me giving them 3 mafia and shooting the 4th one because i thought they were a cop).

And i had the perfect SK victory there just to be ruined by a bastard host who decided for no reason to end the day phase early WHEN THERE IS CLAIM WARS GOING ON and all i had to do was to find the cop until the end of next night...
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2017 13:24 GMT
#2343
On March 22 2017 22:02 Xatalos wrote:
DF kind of screwed over Eden there if they're both scum though. I think I was a decently realistic option without DF's actions, but he was a somewhat crucial swing vote/voice in my favor. Not impossibly a bus, but kind of a YOLO play if it was.

good point.
On March 22 2017 21:14 Calix wrote:
Hello, allow me to ignore everything that's being discussed right now to say that if Oh-ne-gu is mafia, he's probably Godfather for his poorly-substantiated "Xatalos is the Cop who green-checked me" theory.

Someone point out if there are any holes in this theory of mine.

good point 2.

back on a pc.
i kinda want to rant about how tw's solo off wagon vote triggers me.
like regardless of who he was voting for, he kinda dodged all responsibility and/or cred by voting in nowhere land. no interest in the lynch mayhaps? makes no sense if he is mafia with eden. makes no sense if he really thinks eden hasnt got a very high chance of flipping town. willing to "sheep" koshis filter on me, but when koshi makes good points on xata, tw is like "good points im still voting disfo".

i even call him out on it and he doesnt care:
On March 22 2017 03:54 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:43 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:
like where the hell is eden?
though i have to admit this line of thinking didnt work very well on mal -.-

ah yes, the old "bring up a point and then discard it"
(eden would show up as either alignment)

aight. either try and get me lynched if you think i am scum or do something else productive.
wasting your vote and/or random shade throwing on me wont help you progress the game.

I see your point but I'm gonna ignore it


did he want to avoid to be on the same wagon as a scum partner?

like idk. it is a fine line between town for tone and too scummy to be scum he is walking. -.-
can anyone explain it to me, or at least tell me where he gets the stuff he is smoking?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2017 13:25 GMT
#2344
On March 22 2017 22:19 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
At least there was that game where I double-bussed with my scummate and you were SK. You then shot my surviving teammate thinking he was blue or something :D

Yeah i don't do well figuring out all mafia in scumteams that play horribly.


I really don't understand your penchant for being a dick

There is nothing dickish is calling bad play bad.
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 22 2017 13:26 GMT
#2345
On March 22 2017 22:18 darthfoley wrote:
So I have a good D2 filter yet still somehow kinda scummy Tom koshi? Fair I guess if you believe I believed I was in such a bad spot that I decided to bus my AFK teammate it's plausible.

A thought I had: if we are on the cop + JK setup, a smart godfather would have done his/her best to get the lynch off of Eden. Doesn't have to worry about a cop check so there may be even more motivation to go after anything else possible throughout the day. In fact, a godfather play trying to draw a cop check on him/her would be super nuts. For this reason I would guess the theoretical GF would vote off Eden's wagon and the RB would probably buss. We should look carefully into people's off wagon Eden play today regardless

If we're in the vigi setup, my Master deduction doesn't really make sense so

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:29 GMT
#2346
On March 22 2017 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
At least there was that game where I double-bussed with my scummate and you were SK. You then shot my surviving teammate thinking he was blue or something :D

Yeah i don't do well figuring out all mafia in scumteams that play horribly.

That game was super funny though. I had all mafia but one figured out on D1 and tried my best to lynch townies but the town was so terrible i needed to actually help them a little (well it kinda escalated in me giving them 3 mafia and shooting the 4th one because i thought they were a cop).

And i had the perfect SK victory there just to be ruined by a bastard host who decided for no reason to end the day phase early WHEN THERE IS CLAIM WARS GOING ON and all i had to do was to find the cop until the end of next night...


Fun game indeed But you can't say the double bus was a terrible play when it fooled you well and would have won us the game if you hit Cop haha
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2017 13:29 GMT
#2347
But the best game ever is still the one where Mocsta fakeclaimed medic to lynch an actual medic.. as town.... twice
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2017 13:32 GMT
#2348
On March 22 2017 22:29 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
At least there was that game where I double-bussed with my scummate and you were SK. You then shot my surviving teammate thinking he was blue or something :D

Yeah i don't do well figuring out all mafia in scumteams that play horribly.

That game was super funny though. I had all mafia but one figured out on D1 and tried my best to lynch townies but the town was so terrible i needed to actually help them a little (well it kinda escalated in me giving them 3 mafia and shooting the 4th one because i thought they were a cop).

And i had the perfect SK victory there just to be ruined by a bastard host who decided for no reason to end the day phase early WHEN THERE IS CLAIM WARS GOING ON and all i had to do was to find the cop until the end of next night...


Fun game indeed But you can't say the double bus was a terrible play when it fooled you well and would have won us the game if you hit Cop haha

I am not sure how you would have won since i had night immunity, there was still 1 lynch + night, and your team had no idea who is SK. I always win if i don't get lynched because you can't even shoot me.

And your bussing gave away 3/4 of your team (to me - obviously if you think about town then it was not bad play).
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:32 GMT
#2349
On March 22 2017 22:24 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:02 Xatalos wrote:
DF kind of screwed over Eden there if they're both scum though. I think I was a decently realistic option without DF's actions, but he was a somewhat crucial swing vote/voice in my favor. Not impossibly a bus, but kind of a YOLO play if it was.

good point.
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 21:14 Calix wrote:
Hello, allow me to ignore everything that's being discussed right now to say that if Oh-ne-gu is mafia, he's probably Godfather for his poorly-substantiated "Xatalos is the Cop who green-checked me" theory.

Someone point out if there are any holes in this theory of mine.

good point 2.

back on a pc.
i kinda want to rant about how tw's solo off wagon vote triggers me.
like regardless of who he was voting for, he kinda dodged all responsibility and/or cred by voting in nowhere land. no interest in the lynch mayhaps? makes no sense if he is mafia with eden. makes no sense if he really thinks eden hasnt got a very high chance of flipping town. willing to "sheep" koshis filter on me, but when koshi makes good points on xata, tw is like "good points im still voting disfo".

i even call him out on it and he doesnt care:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:43 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:
like where the hell is eden?
though i have to admit this line of thinking didnt work very well on mal -.-

ah yes, the old "bring up a point and then discard it"
(eden would show up as either alignment)

aight. either try and get me lynched if you think i am scum or do something else productive.
wasting your vote and/or random shade throwing on me wont help you progress the game.

I see your point but I'm gonna ignore it


did he want to avoid to be on the same wagon as a scum partner?

like idk. it is a fine line between town for tone and too scummy to be scum he is walking. -.-
can anyone explain it to me, or at least tell me where he gets the stuff he is smoking?


Probably weed.

+ Show Spoiler +
Or he's just generally confused.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:33 GMT
#2350
On March 22 2017 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:29 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
At least there was that game where I double-bussed with my scummate and you were SK. You then shot my surviving teammate thinking he was blue or something :D

Yeah i don't do well figuring out all mafia in scumteams that play horribly.

That game was super funny though. I had all mafia but one figured out on D1 and tried my best to lynch townies but the town was so terrible i needed to actually help them a little (well it kinda escalated in me giving them 3 mafia and shooting the 4th one because i thought they were a cop).

And i had the perfect SK victory there just to be ruined by a bastard host who decided for no reason to end the day phase early WHEN THERE IS CLAIM WARS GOING ON and all i had to do was to find the cop until the end of next night...


Fun game indeed But you can't say the double bus was a terrible play when it fooled you well and would have won us the game if you hit Cop haha

I am not sure how you would have won since i had night immunity, there was still 1 lynch + night, and your team had no idea who is SK. I always win if i don't get lynched because you can't even shoot me.

And your bussing gave away 3/4 of your team (to me - obviously if you think about town then it was not bad play).


Well I think you would have been lunched before him though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2017 13:35 GMT
#2351
lol i was the most towread person in the game by sooooooooooo far.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:35 GMT
#2352
I guess action-wise Tumble doesn't look very good for D2 though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:37 GMT
#2353
On March 22 2017 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol i was the most towread person in the game by sooooooooooo far.


Huh. Could be.

Oh I remember. We requested SK to kill rayn through me in the thread. There was just a slight problem with that plan....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2017 13:42 GMT
#2354
I am trying to think so hard why would anyone ever say this as town:
Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened

This is a response to "why does ritoky die if Eden is town".
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2017 13:42 GMT
#2355
On March 22 2017 22:37 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol i was the most towread person in the game by sooooooooooo far.


Huh. Could be.

Oh I remember. We requested SK to kill rayn through me in the thread. There was just a slight problem with that plan....

table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 22 2017 13:44 GMT
#2356
On March 22 2017 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to think so hard why would anyone ever say this as town:
Show nested quote +
Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened

This is a response to "why does ritoky die if Eden is town".


I've already explained why I said that, so read my filter and call me scum if you don't believe me
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:44 GMT
#2357
On March 22 2017 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to think so hard why would anyone ever say this as town:
Show nested quote +
Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened

This is a response to "why does ritoky die if Eden is town".


Who even said that?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:45 GMT
#2358
Oh
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2017 13:46 GMT
#2359
On March 22 2017 22:44 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to think so hard why would anyone ever say this as town:
Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened

This is a response to "why does ritoky die if Eden is town".


I've already explained why I said that, so read my filter and call me scum if you don't believe me

At the time you wrote that did you think that's the case there?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 22 2017 13:49 GMT
#2360
Well rayn, if you're town and convinced you'll die, probably best to leave some sort of last will. If you're not entirely convinced (I'm not), then maybe best leave it until right before deadline.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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