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SilverWolf77
United States114 Posts
At dr but later I'll filter dive and do a Town to scum list. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On January 10 2017 05:30 reps)squishy wrote: Noted. I will try to be more conversational. My posts in the past are bulky, because of real life time restraints. So my philosophy was quality over quantity. Right now aside from unanimously agreeing to lynch btdt, there are no leads. Therefore I will be more conversational! Then make one. You have to be proactive if you want to get anywhere, although I'll grant you that most people will slack off because BTDT is 100% dying. From what I recall, you have a scum-lean on Onegu, I take it? What do you make of his interactions with other players? | ||
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Mutaller
United States1036 Posts
On January 10 2017 05:37 Calix wrote: Then make one. You have to be proactive if you want to get anywhere, although I'll grant you that most people will slack off because BTDT is 100% dying. From what I recall, you have a scum-lean on Onegu, I take it? What do you make of his interactions with other players? He is single minded in my eye. He was on to B0, because B0 voted for him because he was suspicious. Then B0 said it was for pressure. I don't think B0 claiming that he was hiding that it was a pressure vote is scummy. But, if B0 did not focus on Onegu, I feel that Onegu would have totally disregarded it. He also has many single liners which have no purpose, and too many posts about activity. He said Vivax looks bad to him, and never elaborated. I questioned why he felt that way, and he responded because as a vet he should not defend players. Since then he has not defended his reads. So he keeps his motives to himself. Vivax was later killed. I now have to head to work... | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On January 10 2017 05:13 beentheredonethat wrote: You guys wasted D2. Congratulations. Not like I specifically asked you not to do that. #dropsMic #VTout fuck off dude. if you wanted to not waste D2 you could've not wasted d2. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On January 10 2017 06:01 reps)squishy wrote: He is single minded in my eye. He was on to B0, because B0 voted for him because he was suspicious. Then B0 said it was for pressure. I don't think B0 claiming that he was hiding that it was a pressure vote is scummy. But, if B0 did not focus on Onegu, I feel that Onegu would have totally disregarded it. He also has many single liners which have no purpose, and too many posts about activity. He said Vivax looks bad to him, and never elaborated. I questioned why he felt that way, and he responded because as a vet he should not defend players. Since then he has not defended his reads. So he keeps his motives to himself. Vivax was later killed. I now have to head to work... I don't expect a response to this straight away but your points need some fleshing out since I'm not entirely sure what your argument is and your sentences are all choppy. Has your read on Boston changed as a result of your read on Onegu? It seems that way to me from what you've said about Onegu's push and "keeping his motives to himself". Personally I think what you're referring to (how Onegu posts) is play-style indicative as opposed to alignment-indicative. I'm assuming that you're saying with the last part that "Onegu didn't follow up on a stated scum-read of his and that scum-read later died" which, if I'm right here, isn't actually a terrible point. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
So his stated scum-reads are Boston, Vivax, Grack -> BTDT. He doesn't bring up Vivax after EOD1 in any significant way. In fact, he later agrees with Vivax that reps is scummy. On January 09 2017 07:55 Onegu wrote: I could vote him... Boston also After we lynch btdt of course. His reasons for changing his mind on Vivax, if he did, are absent from his filter and I would like him to explain his thought process whenever he's next online. | ||
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B0stonSC
United States59 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
On January 10 2017 06:55 B0stonSC wrote: Okay Everyone right now I'm super torn. I feel that BTDT should be lynched, because he was a total idiot. However, I also think that is a waste of a lynch when the Scum team is (in my humble opinion) ME and KSC (don't know who the third is). But if I say, "oh let's not lynch BTDT" and he turns out to be scum, then I'll look bad, and will probably get lynched next. This is just what I feel the best play is for us, not lynching BTDT just yet. But since most of you seem to disagree with me, I don't think I'll be changing any minds. Huh? Why would you be torn with lynching BTDT if you only have two scum-reads? I don't see anything in your post that explains why you doubt that he's scum or how lynching him today is not optimal play. Your self-awareness has been noted. Why do you scum-read the other two anyway? | ||
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B0stonSC
United States59 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
On January 10 2017 07:20 B0stonSC wrote: Well for ME he hasn't been very active, and he doesn't give reads or really push the game forward at all. This seems counter intuitive to the goal of town players (push the game forward and solve the game). And, as we all know, the opposite of town is scum, hence my thoughts on him. For KSC he has posted less than three serious posts, with lots of posting being done. I think you're being selective here on how you scum-hunt (ME/ yourself and KSC/ Onegu). I wouldn't say you are much better than ME and if you disagree then you should explain why that's the case. I get that you two are new and are struggling in some respects regardless of alignment but I think it's strange that you are calling out ME for that of all reasons. Does your KSC logic also apply to Onegu? If not, what are the differences between the two of them in your eyes? | ||
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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On January 10 2017 07:34 Kmatt wrote: I'm going through filters now and it just occurred to me that KSC made his last post on the 6th. If he doesn't make three posts within this cycle he gets modkilled IIRC. I can't say how long the line for Subway is but you need to pick your topping and get the hell in this thread. this sentence is truly amazing | ||
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MichaelEhrmantraut
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cakepie
985 Posts
On January 10 2017 09:41 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote: Are we told whether someone is killed by Mafia or it just plain text like the one we have for Vivax ? You are only told that someone has died. You are not told which player or which faction killed them. | ||
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SilverWolf77
United States114 Posts
Agrees with me on Vivax defense of others he doesn't have a read on being scummy.I want to see if he does any of his own reasoning on any reads instead of sheeping me but the fact that he's reading the situation the same as me is a plus. It doesn't matter that we were wrong. It matters if he's thinking along the lines of a town thought process. Says he believes Onegu's VT claim and questions him on his scumreads of Vivax and B0ston. OK, this is him trying to figure out Onegu which is good. Doesn't like Grack not willing to explain his townread on Vivax. Also, doesn't like Grack trying to cause conflict and making the thread hard to read or get reads. Also, doesn't like that he won't explain his townread on Vivax. This is all reasoning I agree with but he said it before me so this isn't sheeping but coming up with his own reasoning. Good. I don't like his sheeping btdt's case on B0ston however. He take's his vote off of his main scumread Grack to sheep onto btdt onto B0ston who he had previously had no read on. I think btdt's flip will help with B0ston and Reps read. I don't see either one of them as scum with him. Also, don't like Reps saying if someone comes up with a good argument on Grack, he'll revote. Why wait for someone else to give you a reason to vote before doing so? Very wishy washy here. Doesn't like btdt's sudden switch to Vivax after casing B0ston-I agree with not liking this so this is good for Reps. Votes Grack after the claim, cc fiasco. So do a lot of people so meh. I do like his further elaboration of why he thought Vivax defense of others was scummy. It was well thought out and easy to understand. His further explanation of Grack, B0ston, etc was fine but a little too much on theory. Still, fine though. His suspicion on Onegu wasn't bad. It was his own original thinking and it made sense. He didn't like Onegu voting B0ston after B0ston voted him and his general lack of presence in the thread and commenting on irrelevant things. This isn't bad. Leans town on btdt for the roleblock claim but later agrees with my saying it still could be scum and votes btdt. Meh. Further explains his Onegu scumread which is o.k. So overall, probably town, does sheep a little bit but overall has a town thought process on reads and does come up with some stuff of his own too. I really needed to do this because Squishy was one I was having trouble figuring out. | ||
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SilverWolf77
United States114 Posts
Flying under the radar. Yep, I keep forgetting about him which I don't like. His whole VT thing is null for me, I don't get the point and when I asked he simply said it was his thing. It just looks like busy work and not much else. If he got some reads off it, that would be different but he didn't. Suspicious of B0ston for voting him when he only made 2 posts. A little reactive-gets annoyed B0ston didn't say it was a pressure vote but you don't usually say a vote is a pressure vote when you vote someone for pressure so.............. Makes irrelevant comment about OMGUS and what it means. Reiterates trolliness is NAI for him. Explains his scumread on B0ston was for fabricating a read on him and later changing the narrative on it. This is actually pretty good. Doesn't like Vivax defending people as a vet player. Basically just a one line scumread of Vivax. Meh. Explains his townread on me better. Says he's town cuz he's VT. A few more irrelevant comments about stubborness and saying he claims VT in all his games. I think he made too much of this but it's apparently NAI for him. A few more irrelevant posts. I do like his explanation for his scumread on B0ston. Didn't like Grack's claim and votes him for the cc. Strongly states we need to lynch btdt which I agree with. Says Kelsier is the veteran who would shoot Vivax if scum. Says he'll figure the game out for us. I hope someone does. Overall, a lot of filler posting which is NAI for him. A decent enough explanation for why Kelsier would shoot Vivax due to meta and Vivax vote on him. A good reasoning for his suspicion on B0ston. Unfortunately it's null town. Meaning a couple points look town, the rest looks null. I don't really see anything scummy though or anything that looks scum motivated so null town it is. | ||
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SilverWolf77
United States114 Posts
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Mutaller
United States1036 Posts
On January 10 2017 06:11 Calix wrote: I don't expect a response to this straight away but your points need some fleshing out since I'm not entirely sure what your argument is and your sentences are all choppy. Has your read on Boston changed as a result of your read on Onegu? It seems that way to me from what you've said about Onegu's push and "keeping his motives to himself". Personally I think what you're referring to (how Onegu posts) is play-style indicative as opposed to alignment-indicative. I'm assuming that you're saying with the last part that "Onegu didn't follow up on a stated scum-read of his and that scum-read later died" which, if I'm right here, isn't actually a terrible point. I will try to articulate it the best that I can! To start off, If 1gu argued against B0's lack of goal oriented posts I could follow that reasoning. But 1gu argued that B0's reasons for voting had inconsistencies. Personally I believe announcing something is a pressure vote devalues the pressure it will give; so that is why I don't think B0's inconsistencies scummy. I also believe that 1gu's vote on B0 was primarily because B0 voted for him. If B0 voted for example me saying I was suspicious and later changed it to being a pressure vote. 1gu would not care for it was not directed at him. I don't want to clutter up this post with a bunch of quotes showing 1gu talking about activity, and pointless one liners. Checking his filter will be entirely evident of this. For the 1gu/Vivax argument. He states he thinks Vivax is scummy. When I questioned him why he thought that way he said the reason everyone did, that he defended players. But since then Vivax had fallen of his radar. And as Calix stated clearly what I was thinking "Onegu didn't follow up on a stated scum-read of his and that scum-read later died". | ||
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Mutaller
United States1036 Posts
On January 10 2017 14:57 reps)squishy wrote: I also believe that 1gu's vote on B0 was primarily because B0 voted for him. If B0 voted for example me saying I was suspicious and later changed it to being a pressure vote. 1gu would not care for it was not directed at him. I mean if B0 voted for someone else using the same reasoning, 1gu would have disregarded it. Only because it was directed at him does he care. He is a very defensive player in my eye. | ||
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ika42
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