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Koshi
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Koshi
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I can't keep this up. ##vote Lighteningstrike | ||
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Holyflare
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On December 22 2016 21:07 Koshi wrote: Your certainty + lack of finding other mafia is disturbing. Maybe you are mafia after all. What posts of mine have sounded certain? I literally even posted I hope he comes back and is super towny. | ||
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Koshi
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On December 22 2016 21:25 Holyflare wrote: What posts of mine have sounded certain? I literally even posted I hope he comes back and is super towny. It's ok. I am just saying random things. | ||
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disformation
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On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote: ##unvote I can't keep this up. ##vote Lighteningstrike Thing that gives me pause: On December 22 2016 13:35 LightningStrike wrote: Just got back home from pokemon and I see no one got killed :D Idk if scum would hold their shot there it would be very dumb for them to do so since that would gain a ML which doesn't favor them at all. I now voting Kmatt due to stuff I said earlier. ##Vote: Kmatt okay now i am starting to get the feeling something is really wrong here. | ||
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disformation
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On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight. Why did LS want to lynch slam together with Koshi and not Kmatt with HF then EoD? Like yes he thought Slam was the betterest lynch, but he was super hard defending ExO_... so if slam wasnt happening, wouldnt try to get 5 on kmatt instead make sense? He even has Kmatt in his PoE? On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote: Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case. Oh. He disappeared like 2h - 2h30 b4 deadline and returns shortly after: On December 21 2016 10:45 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I had gone out with my parents for some shopping and figured ExO was town on meta yet no one listened to me  Though that is quite a convenient post to make for scum too... Still he missed HF suggesting: On December 21 2016 08:26 Holyflare wrote: I think we should lynch kmatt, that re-entry to the thread and saying nothing annoys me by 15 mins... *sigh* yeah I dunno I just want to see kmatt and LS come back and post a bunch. -.- | ||
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Rels
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On December 22 2016 21:19 disformation wrote: All my games are linked in my profile. I went through the last one IE star wars where you were cop and die N1. BTW It was painful to reread me being shennanied for 0 reason. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512849-star-wars-rogue-1-hype-mafia?user=disformation&view=all It's true that you have a lot of interactions with what's happening with the thread. But not always. Here are a list of posts that I think weren't copies of someone else opinion OR where you go against what someone is saying: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 17:38 disformation wrote: I hate how everyone seems to think I am good at this game. Also went through geripts walls and tried to add up his reads/comments via a point system: (note that this is an interpretation) -: bad post +: good post |: meh post trfel: - - + - disfo: + - - tw: - - - palmar: | - - - scott: + - vivax: + koshi: + hf: | + TT: + - | rb: - mostly lines up with his actual reads at the end of his second wall. kinda want him to explain why he doesnt think palmar is scum despite disliking a lot of palmars posts + the questions I asked earlier. On August 29 2016 20:57 disformation wrote: also geripts scumread on me is a bit weird. His comments on me: So where does the scum read on me even come from, the above doesn't seem very conclusive. It is kinda hidden in the parts where he talks about HF. On HF's read on me: Then he likes some on HF's posts: Only mentions of HF, which lead to a TR on HF (after saying HF's case on me is NAI for HF) and apparently he is sheeping HF's case on me, cause I am not sure why he would think I am the most likely scum from the things he said on me? The more I look at geripts post the more inorganic and constructed I think it is. Might also be written in this hard to follow/read way to look like work has been done and making ppl less likely to want to read it. On August 30 2016 18:50 disformation wrote: was skimming a bit through some tw and tt filters in other games. tw doesn't really look like either his town or scum games imo. for tt i need to find a recent town game. there are similarities to his scum play in shin megami tensai, but those are rather shallow imo. like his entry does look similar and his lists look similar. On August 30 2016 21:01 disformation wrote: I think that this is the scummiest thing to be posted as of yet this game. On August 30 2016 21:05 disformation wrote: voting vivax. will maybe write a case later. On August 30 2016 21:15 disformation wrote: ppl explaining their town reads on vivax might be cool. Then later backing off the easy lynch: On August 31 2016 00:04 disformation wrote: blah. im not feeling the vivax lynch. On September 01 2016 00:34 disformation wrote: random tinfoil: why is vivax only going after easy targets? scott is know to get misslyched a ton (no offense) and geript has like no time to play. On September 01 2016 01:11 disformation wrote: plamar has already been questioned and pressured about his vote. if scum not for his vote. vote suspiciousness: low tw: the voting itself is fine. votes scott to save himself and then switches to rels cause he didn't think scott is scum. though this statement is very waffly: Also has weird reads around eod, so he really needs to step it up D2. vote suspiciousness: low-medium koshi really likes the tw lynch. switches after rels dun goofed. think koshis reactions are genuine and indicate he cared about the lynch. he also was on Rels earlier D1. So I think this looks okay. vote suspiciousness: low-medium vivi leads scott lynch all day. wasnt around at eod. so far looks perfectly fine and reasonable, but this post: super confuses me. despite leading the scott wagon all day and not buckling with his vote he is a bit like "oh nah, I dont really care which one of the two gets lynchend." Dunno. I would have expected him to care a bit more about scott? Or even if you scumread both, push a bit for the one who you think has the hgher chance to flip scum? Well, he never unvoted scott, but it kinda gets my paranoia going. vote suspiciousness: medium geript had his long stretch of voting me despite giving me a bunch of town points in his latest batch. and then votes dane? well it is in line with him having not much scum reads and these posts: and I guess some ppl were considering dane sheannanies, but still feels a bit odd, to throw out a vote like this, when it is really close between TW and scott at the time. That was the VC right before geripts vote:+ Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:46 beentheredonethat wrote: Day 1: Vote Count #7 ![[image loading]](https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/66998607.jpg) Votes:
Not voting: - Currently, Tumblewood is set to be lynched. Remember, voting is mandatory. Please vote in the voting thread. If the vote count is not accurate or contains errors, please PM a host. Day 1 will end in (deadline being Tuesday, Aug 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). still going to keep it at a medium, cause it lines up with his thought progression and he legit seems to be screwed on time. vote suspiciousness: medium | ||
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disformation
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On December 22 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote: what do you mean? still think it is kmatt + x. dont see ls making that post if ls is x. buuuut thats also getting into the area of preflip association. so I think I should stop that. think it would be better for me to decide who the 2nd most scummy person after kmatt is. didnt someone say that LS posts way less as scum? can anyone confirm? | ||
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Koshi
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On December 22 2016 21:42 disformation wrote: Why did LS want to lynch slam together with Koshi and not Kmatt with HF then EoD? Like yes he thought Slam was the betterest lynch, but he was super hard defending ExO_... so if slam wasnt happening, wouldnt try to get 5 on kmatt instead make sense? He even has Kmatt in his PoE? Oh. He disappeared like 2h - 2h30 b4 deadline and returns shortly after: Though that is quite a convenient post to make for scum too... Still he missed HF suggesting: by 15 mins... *sigh* yeah I dunno I just want to see kmatt and LS come back and post a bunch. -.- Yes, he always said he didn't want to lynch Exo. But I think he didn't really push for a lynchtarget himself. Just saying he was sure ExO was not mafia. Without doubt LS didn't scumhunt enough D1. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:45 disformation wrote: still think it is kmatt + x. dont see ls making that post if ls is x. buuuut thats also getting into the area of preflip association. so I think I should stop that. think it would be better for me to decide who the 2nd most scummy person after kmatt is. didnt someone say that LS posts way less as scum? can anyone confirm? What if Kmatt is not mafia and it is Rels + LS? | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:42 Rels wrote: I went through the last one IE star wars where you were cop and die N1. BTW It was painful to reread me being shennanied for 0 reason. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512849-star-wars-rogue-1-hype-mafia?user=disformation&view=all It's true that you have a lot of interactions with what's happening with the thread. But not always. Here are a list of posts that I think weren't copies of someone else opinion OR where you go against what someone is saying: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 17:38 disformation wrote: I hate how everyone seems to think I am good at this game. Also went through geripts walls and tried to add up his reads/comments via a point system: (note that this is an interpretation) -: bad post +: good post |: meh post trfel: - - + - disfo: + - - tw: - - - palmar: | - - - scott: + - vivax: + koshi: + hf: | + TT: + - | rb: - mostly lines up with his actual reads at the end of his second wall. kinda want him to explain why he doesnt think palmar is scum despite disliking a lot of palmars posts + the questions I asked earlier. On August 29 2016 20:57 disformation wrote: also geripts scumread on me is a bit weird. His comments on me: So where does the scum read on me even come from, the above doesn't seem very conclusive. It is kinda hidden in the parts where he talks about HF. On HF's read on me: Then he likes some on HF's posts: Only mentions of HF, which lead to a TR on HF (after saying HF's case on me is NAI for HF) and apparently he is sheeping HF's case on me, cause I am not sure why he would think I am the most likely scum from the things he said on me? The more I look at geripts post the more inorganic and constructed I think it is. Might also be written in this hard to follow/read way to look like work has been done and making ppl less likely to want to read it. On August 30 2016 18:50 disformation wrote: was skimming a bit through some tw and tt filters in other games. tw doesn't really look like either his town or scum games imo. for tt i need to find a recent town game. there are similarities to his scum play in shin megami tensai, but those are rather shallow imo. like his entry does look similar and his lists look similar. On August 30 2016 21:01 disformation wrote: I think that this is the scummiest thing to be posted as of yet this game. On August 30 2016 21:05 disformation wrote: voting vivax. will maybe write a case later. On August 30 2016 21:15 disformation wrote: ppl explaining their town reads on vivax might be cool. Then later backing off the easy lynch: On August 31 2016 00:04 disformation wrote: blah. im not feeling the vivax lynch. On September 01 2016 00:34 disformation wrote: random tinfoil: why is vivax only going after easy targets? scott is know to get misslyched a ton (no offense) and geript has like no time to play. On September 01 2016 01:11 disformation wrote: plamar has already been questioned and pressured about his vote. if scum not for his vote. vote suspiciousness: low tw: the voting itself is fine. votes scott to save himself and then switches to rels cause he didn't think scott is scum. though this statement is very waffly: Also has weird reads around eod, so he really needs to step it up D2. vote suspiciousness: low-medium koshi really likes the tw lynch. switches after rels dun goofed. think koshis reactions are genuine and indicate he cared about the lynch. he also was on Rels earlier D1. So I think this looks okay. vote suspiciousness: low-medium vivi leads scott lynch all day. wasnt around at eod. so far looks perfectly fine and reasonable, but this post: super confuses me. despite leading the scott wagon all day and not buckling with his vote he is a bit like "oh nah, I dont really care which one of the two gets lynchend." Dunno. I would have expected him to care a bit more about scott? Or even if you scumread both, push a bit for the one who you think has the hgher chance to flip scum? Well, he never unvoted scott, but it kinda gets my paranoia going. vote suspiciousness: medium geript had his long stretch of voting me despite giving me a bunch of town points in his latest batch. and then votes dane? well it is in line with him having not much scum reads and these posts: and I guess some ppl were considering dane sheannanies, but still feels a bit odd, to throw out a vote like this, when it is really close between TW and scott at the time. That was the VC right before geripts vote:+ Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:46 beentheredonethat wrote: Day 1: Vote Count #7 Votes:
Not voting: - Currently, Tumblewood is set to be lynched. Remember, voting is mandatory. Please vote in the voting thread. If the vote count is not accurate or contains errors, please PM a host. Day 1 will end in (deadline being Tuesday, Aug 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). still going to keep it at a medium, cause it lines up with his thought progression and he legit seems to be screwed on time. vote suspiciousness: medium Ah yes. That game I had the huge problem that I couldnt decide which town leader to sheep. So I was super torn all the time. Very painful game indeed. Turns out all the town leaders were scum. =D | ||
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Rels
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On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote: ##unvote I can't keep this up. ##vote Lighteningstrike I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make. On December 22 2016 05:14 LightningStrike wrote: I think you just were trolling me HF -.- These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety. | ||
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Rels is doing that. He doesn't really is open about Kmatt, calls him mafia as easily as town, and then is pushing his ml in disformation. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote: I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make. These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety. Ofc he can. Being mafia doesn't remove that at all. | ||
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Koshi
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This is my scumteam: Rels/LS | ||
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Holyflare
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On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote: I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make. These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety. that doesn't even make sense and has no game relevant information he could just say whatever | ||
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Rels
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On December 22 2016 21:48 Koshi wrote: It is wrong that Rels does not want to touch Kmatt and is just pushing another lynch like a madman. Reminds me of my mafia games. I look town, I push some random smuck nobody really believes is mafia, but then on D3 they believe me and lynch my smuck. Rels is doing that. He doesn't really is open about Kmatt, calls him mafia as easily as town, and then is pushing his ml in disformation. Are you calling for Kmatt / me ? I read Kmatt filter. I can see him being scum, there are things in his filter that bothered me, namely several of his posts EOD1. | ||
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Rels
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On December 22 2016 21:49 Koshi wrote: Ofc he can. Being mafia doesn't remove that at all. That's not obvious to me. LS have had a very hard tim eposting as scum until that millionaire game. I'm gonna see if he was able to replicate his naive posting there | ||
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