• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:58
CEST 22:58
KST 05:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments4[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced62
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025) The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now"
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion StarCraft player reflex TE scores BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCon Philadelphia Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 579 users

Liquidmania Qualifier #1 - Page 57

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 55 56 57 58 59 108 Next
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 22 2016 12:57 GMT
#1121
well actually I gotta eat lunch before it's too late, I'll do that tonight
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 22 2016 12:57 GMT
#1122
Being mafia does not remove naive posting.

It could be that being mafia causes extreme anxiousness and then the naivety kinda gets absorbed/removed. But LS is under 0 scrutiny this game so your reasoning sucks.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 22 2016 13:00 GMT
#1123
On December 22 2016 21:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 21:45 disformation wrote:
On December 22 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote:
what do you mean?

still think it is kmatt + x.
dont see ls making that post if ls is x.

buuuut thats also getting into the area of preflip association. so I think I should stop that.

think it would be better for me to decide who the 2nd most scummy person after kmatt is.

didnt someone say that LS posts way less as scum? can anyone confirm?

What if Kmatt is not mafia and it is Rels + LS?

Huh. Let me ponder that.

Thing with Rels is: there is 100% something "off" with him.
Starting with his read on me (though could have been an honest mistake) and then the super weird mindmeld with SL.

So rels is currently giving me an headache. I also havent seen rels put this much effort into a game for a long time. No idea what that means for his alignment though.

It is not impossible for kmatt to be town. Still think his EoD posts were supra bad.

LS i could actually see. Though a big part of that is activity/inactivity.

And there is still SL who seems 100% that Rels is town...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 22 2016 13:03 GMT
#1124
On December 22 2016 21:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 21:49 Koshi wrote:
On December 22 2016 21:47 Rels wrote:
On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote:
##unvote

I can't keep this up.

##vote Lighteningstrike

I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make.
On December 22 2016 04:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:32 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 22 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 22 2016 03:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I was just way to pissed off that ExO still got lynched despite me and Koshi tried to start the wagon on Slam :\ I fine with a Kmatt lynch since Slam does look a bit better post lynch. Kmatt's early game talk is so weird around sicklucker which me and HF pointed out. Hopefully this game will get easier tonight.

Rels is going to go ham.

What you mean by going to go ham?


He typod. He meant he's going to get ham from the supermarket.

You sure he meant that?

On December 22 2016 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I think you just were trolling me HF -.-

These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety.

Ofc he can. Being mafia doesn't remove that at all.

That's not obvious to me. LS have had a very hard tim eposting as scum until that millionaire game. I'm gonna see if he was able to replicate his naive posting there

I heard LS was able to break meta that game and won the game for scum of that.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 22 2016 13:09 GMT
#1125
4 names. Those need to do stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 22 2016 13:11 GMT
#1126
Vote Count - Day 2


Kmatt (4): sicklucker, disformation, Holyflare, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Rels, Koshi
LightningStrike (1): Koshi

Not voted (2): Kmatt, Alakaslam

It looks like no one will be disqualified at the moment.
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Day 2 ends in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 22 2016 13:17 GMT
#1127
Oh crap, we still need 5 for the majority. -.-
that will be fun
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:28 GMT
#1128
Majority really makes the game stale
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:30 GMT
#1129
Fwiw I don't think rels or disfo are mafia either :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:34 GMT
#1130
Ls's mafia meta is repeated afk excuses too.

I could see a kmatt/ls team since kmatt had "cold feet" around the same time as his theoretical partner started posting that exo was town iirc.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:35 GMT
#1131
A deep psychological thing of seeing your teammate do stuff and then being hyper aware of it and factoring into your reads maybe?

Still wanna know about his sl stuff though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:39 GMT
#1132
Sicklucker
Oh wow apparently he made a line about me and him being scumbuddies. I legitimately did not catch that until this post.

Anyway this guy gives off a Slam vibe. I think it's just in his nature to make these one-liner stream of consciousness posts but he looks to be all over the place regarding our wagons. First he thinks I'm scum, then he thinks both Exo and I are scum (which simply doesn't make sense), then me mentions Slam being scum but says nothing about that case. He looks like he's ready to hop on anyone that could be a ML. But since he's down for lynching Exo he's either bussing day 1 (questionable at best) or he's just playing weird town. His enthusiasm for Rels is also odd. That speaks to me as trying too hard for town cred. Also conveniently hasn't spoken a word about disinformation unless I missed something in his spotty filter.

If Exo flips green/blue we're putting this guy on ice.


This is objectively a good case if it's true (not read sl). Everything he says should make sl mafia in his eyes but somehow the bussing thing eliminates all of that mafia behaviour? Then the caveat about exo just screams of tmi for later.

Whether they are partners is hard to say though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:45 GMT
#1133
On December 21 2016 02:17 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 02:08 Kmatt wrote:
Wew that was fun.

Alakaslam
Wow he actually sucks.

I'll admit, he's done a fantastic job of "skating by". His filter is tiny and full of garbage. He had those posts where he talked about Rels' reads but had no actual content. To this point he hasn't even acknowledged either the Exo or Disinfo wagons. However despite all this I'm leaning more towards him playing Lazy Town rather than a quiet scum. If our wagons are both ML, then Mafia wants to hop on board for the town cred and ride for an easy kill. If we have scum targets they need to be derailing us. He's just not playing at all. In my other game we had Fidei86 being super inactive as scum (though that might have just been him not playing much) so I don't rule Slam being scum out. He's not my first priority here so he's getting a stay of votecution.

ExO_
By all accounts this guy is still scum in my book, mostly for reasons already stated (no scumreads on anyone but his accusers, over-defensiveness at my vote, being unhelpful in general). While the meta read is totally believable, I have no reason to doubt that he's both playing to his own standard and being scum. Regardless, I won't miss him when he's gone. The vote can stay here.

Koshi
For the most part I want to like this guy. His posts do seem a little erratic, but that's not necessarily scum behavior. If you could lay out in a single post your full case against Sicklucker I'd like to see it. Just looking at your filter didn't give me a clear picture on why he's scum and why we should vote him.

LightningStrike
Literally where?

While I'm not a fan of his absence, I can't pin it down to being scum for reasons in Slam's summary. He does need to get off his rump and do some McFriggin work though. Otherwise he seems harmlessly townie. I don't want harmless town I want murderous lynching town.

Sicklucker
Oh wow apparently he made a line about me and him being scumbuddies. I legitimately did not catch that until this post.

Anyway this guy gives off a Slam vibe. I think it's just in his nature to make these one-liner stream of consciousness posts but he looks to be all over the place regarding our wagons. First he thinks I'm scum, then he thinks both Exo and I are scum (which simply doesn't make sense), then me mentions Slam being scum but says nothing about that case. He looks like he's ready to hop on anyone that could be a ML. But since he's down for lynching Exo he's either bussing day 1 (questionable at best) or he's just playing weird town. His enthusiasm for Rels is also odd. That speaks to me as trying too hard for town cred. Also conveniently hasn't spoken a word about disinformation unless I missed something in his spotty filter.

If Exo flips green/blue we're putting this guy on ice.

Rels
Town enough for me. Asks good questions, hasn't done anything particularly scummy in my eyes. He got a little confused on Disinfos pseudo-scumread of Exo but that was a genuinely confusing post. For now I find no fault here.

Holyflare
I'll take him as town as well. More aggressive than I would play, but still very town. I could see him getting shot night one *cough*doc*cough*.

Kmatt
ayy

Disinformation
I genuinely can't tell if he's scum or just a town being all over the place. As much as I hate going neutral on a big wagon, I have to give him a null. If it weren't for the other more deliberately scummy players I would feel better voting for him but as it is I can't come to a conclusion. I'm watching closely.

My current scumteam comes out to Exo/Slam/SL.

TOWN
Rels
LightningStrike
Holyflare
Koshi
Disninformation
Alakaslam
Sicklucker
Exo
SCUM


Update: The bit about Slam being lazy town was me not conveying my thoughts properly. I had that suspicion, but him being scum wins out. I don't lean towards him being town, just that it factored into my analysis.


This update on his slam read also made me go "why the fuck bother". Again, hyper awareness of slipping that slam is town and correcting himself to make stuff fit?

Not to mention his post doesn't even make sense. He clearly writes
However despite all this I'm leaning more towards him playing Lazy Town rather than a quiet scum. If our wagons are both ML, then Mafia wants to hop on board for the town cred and ride for an easy kill. If we have scum targets they need to be derailing us. He's just not playing at all.


Everything in this quote is geared towards him weighing up town or mafia slam and reaching a conclusion that it's lazy town but apparently him being mafia wins out?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:52 GMT
#1134
I also have absolutely no idea why this part bugs me and I KNOW it's fucking retarded but:



My current scumteam comes out to Exo/Slam/SL.

TOWN
Rels
LightningStrike
Holyflare
Koshi
Disninformation
Alakaslam
Sicklucker
Exo
SCUM


It really bugs me how it's exo/slam/sl written out but then his scum order is slam/sl/exo.

Not only should sl NOT be second on his list based on what he's written (the bussing) but the order is different.

I find it really hard to equate why the caveat for sl is "if exo is town then we put this guy on ice" but then he's second on the list. Why bother putting that caveat at all?? Surely it means he's town if the inverse is true and exo is mafia? But now we know exo is town this looks opportunistic as fuck.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:53 GMT
#1135
Maybe exo flipping green/blue bugs me to. Who writes blue as well?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 13:53 GMT
#1136
Too* fml
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
December 22 2016 13:58 GMT
#1137
These are all the rules regarding shooting for all of my games.

1. Mafia can hold their shot but if a situation arises where no lynch and no shot are being traded scum will be forced to shoot.

2. If mafia cant agree to a shot they will vote for it(if there is a tie the shot will be random among the choices)

3. If mafia do not submit a shot at all i do not randomly choose a shot and a no shot would occur. unless a situation arises where no lynch and no shot are traded if scum refuses to submidt a shot a random shot with all players alive in the game would occur.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 22 2016 14:01 GMT
#1138
I hope the random shot includes themselves
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 22 2016 14:13 GMT
#1139
On December 22 2016 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
Maybe exo flipping green/blue bugs me to. Who writes blue as well?

Specifically mentions blues in his very first post, too...
On December 19 2016 10:41 Kmatt wrote:
It begins.

Also hello to Shapelog and Darthfoley (where did he know me from?)!

Looks like we won't know about what setup we get unless a blue does something. GLHF

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 22 2016 14:17 GMT
#1140
Not sure if there is a connection, but I kinda have the Lunaticman read on him now. -.-
Prev 1 55 56 57 58 59 108 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 237
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 449
ggaemo 123
sSak 56
Stormgate
Nathanias142
JuggernautJason103
Dota 2
Dendi1742
capcasts189
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K418
flusha393
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu543
Other Games
summit1g5021
tarik_tv4737
fl0m1781
shahzam450
Hui .110
Dewaltoss62
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV152
StarCraft 2
angryscii 49
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta84
• StrangeGG 84
• musti20045 66
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 15
• Azhi_Dahaki10
• Pr0nogo 6
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22344
League of Legends
• Doublelift1046
• TFBlade855
Other Games
• imaqtpie1429
• Shiphtur383
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 2m
LiuLi Cup
14h 2m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
18h 2m
RSL Revival
1d 5h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
SC Evo League
1d 15h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 18h
CSO Cup
1d 19h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.