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On June 21 2016 08:02 Spaylz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2016 07:14 Sent. wrote:No thats just plot armor/bad writing/ other buzzwordI realized its almost certain that the mystery of the tower of joy won't be revealed in this season. That's annoying  No way. It would be terrible pacing to show the first half of the scene mid-season, and not have it in the same season later on. If we have to wait an entire year to find out the rest of the vision, people will have forgotten and the impact will be drastically reduced. It has to happen this season.
I agree, it would be terrible to only have it next season... Also, it could be that WTF moment the finale is expected to have.
There are other questions, too, though. Where is Dorne? Where is Sam? What is Bran doing? What's the Hound up to, now that he's back? If all these plotlines are to be shown in the finale, plus ToJ, plus Cersei and Loras' trial in KL, that is surely gonna take a hell of a long episode.
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On June 21 2016 08:19 Sholip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2016 08:02 Spaylz wrote:On June 21 2016 07:14 Sent. wrote:No thats just plot armor/bad writing/ other buzzwordI realized its almost certain that the mystery of the tower of joy won't be revealed in this season. That's annoying No way. It would be terrible pacing to show the first half of the scene mid-season, and not have it in the same season later on. If we have to wait an entire year to find out the rest of the vision, people will have forgotten and the impact will be drastically reduced. It has to happen this season. I agree, it would be terrible to only have it next season... Also, it could be that WTF moment the finale is expected to have. There are other questions, too, though. Where is Dorne? Where is Sam? What is Bran doing? What's the Hound up to, now that he's back? If all these plotlines are to be shown in the finale, plus ToJ, plus Cersei and Loras' trial in KL, that is surely gonna take a hell of a long episode.
IIRC it's the longest episode yet. I think it was 69 minutes.
But yeah they have to show Lyanna and probably the white walkers as well...
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On June 21 2016 08:19 Sholip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2016 08:02 Spaylz wrote:On June 21 2016 07:14 Sent. wrote:No thats just plot armor/bad writing/ other buzzwordI realized its almost certain that the mystery of the tower of joy won't be revealed in this season. That's annoying No way. It would be terrible pacing to show the first half of the scene mid-season, and not have it in the same season later on. If we have to wait an entire year to find out the rest of the vision, people will have forgotten and the impact will be drastically reduced. It has to happen this season. I agree, it would be terrible to only have it next season... Also, it could be that WTF moment the finale is expected to have. There are other questions, too, though. Where is Dorne? Where is Sam? What is Bran doing? What's the Hound up to, now that he's back? If all these plotlines are to be shown in the finale, plus ToJ, plus Cersei and Loras' trial in KL, that is surely gonna take a hell of a long episode.
5 bucks they show another dany scene with wind up her nose and dragon flying over her as they embark upon the sea
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On June 21 2016 07:32 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2016 07:26 Plansix wrote:
The ways arrows were used during that time was like artillery or even machine gun fire, which was also pure luck if you got hit or missed. It just the nature of war, which is pretty random. Except it's been established multiple times that skilled archers are xXxN0Sc0pE420 shots in the Game of Thrones universe. We can only apply assumptions from our own universe when the show doesn't show us something to the contrary. Rickon's death suggests otherwise.
And Jon was really far away on, riding a 30 mph gallop and they managed to kill his horse and injury him slightly. That is pretty impressive.
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Kinda funny how easily you can sneak armies around in Westeros without anyone noticing. I mean, it was obvious someone or something would turn up for the rescue (or to kill everyone if it was the white walkers), but there's gotta have been a better way to do it. At least when Stannis did it it made more sense because he came through the sea and landed on the other side of the wall.
Also, for a few seconds I expected Ramsey to use his dogs to kill Rickon instead of his haxxor bow skillz, but I guess they needed to save the dogs for the end.
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I guess unnamed hounds and dragons more important than one scene of Ghost.
Still slightly salty about that lol
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I did apprecuate the visceral and very real depiction of war seen in Bastardbowl but I felt like it didnt have much substance to it.
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All i want to know is why a fucking giant doesn't get a fucking giant weapon?
If he had a giant sword, axe or even a fucking tree he would have killed hundreds..
If they give him rocks to throw he would be like a trebuchet... god damn noobs
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On June 21 2016 12:12 sung_moon wrote:
I guess unnamed hounds and dragons more important than one scene of Ghost.
Still slightly salty about that lol
They've already killed two direwolves thos season for basically no reason, don't give them the chance to do another.
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On June 21 2016 19:50 shell wrote:
All i want to know is why a fucking giant doesn't get a fucking giant weapon?
If he had a giant sword, axe or even a fucking tree he would have killed hundreds..
If they give him rocks to throw he would be like a trebuchet... god damn noobs
Ye i expected it to be more like LotR, Battle of Dagorlad, where Sauron kicks some serious ass (people flying through the air and stuff)
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On June 21 2016 19:50 shell wrote:
All i want to know is why a fucking giant doesn't get a fucking giant weapon?
If he had a giant sword, axe or even a fucking tree he would have killed hundreds..
If they give him rocks to throw he would be like a trebuchet... god damn noobs
Because then he would crush that pikeman surround and there would be no "unexpected" LF rescue at last moment.
Or to stop that they would have to kill him sooner and Jon could not have a dying heart touching scene with him inside Winterfell.
Blame it on two quacks called D&D.
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Come to think of it, kind of retarded of Ramsay to use the arrow to kill the giant instead of killing Jon.
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On June 21 2016 21:44 DickMcFanny wrote:
Come to think of it, kind of retarded of Ramsay to use the arrow to kill the giant instead of killing Jon.
Why? I'd rather kill a 4-5m giant (Ultralisk) who can rip me in two, than a normal person (Space Marine). IMO I'd would be rather retarded if he killed Jon but left the giant alive
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On June 21 2016 21:44 DickMcFanny wrote:
Come to think of it, kind of retarded of Ramsay to use the arrow to kill the giant instead of killing Jon.
Yea but he wanted to taunt Jon first. Where is the fun in just killing him 
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FFS.. it's like having tank and not having fuel!
The dude is super tall and strong and doesn't even get a single weapon..
just cut a tree and give it to him.. at least it could make sense!
How come he is able to batter down a door of a castle(BTW that door sucked big time haha) but they don't give him a weapon?
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On June 21 2016 19:50 shell wrote:
All i want to know is why a fucking giant doesn't get a fucking giant weapon?
If he had a giant sword, axe or even a fucking tree he would have killed hundreds..
If they give him rocks to throw he would be like a trebuchet... god damn noobs
giants are not known for being smart
and clearly no1 is gonna say "Hey!, *clears throat* Giant , would you mind holding like a tree or something this time?"
actually the whole thing was completely suicidal from the get-go, its like jon had given up on life, even said he will kill his sister if the battle fails . i wonder if dying was supposed to instill in him a feeling of caring less about living. like, in the book will we get a better picture of his desperation*
actually when fran or whatever was shot down, i was fully expecting jon to turn back and call off the battle (not kidding, i had no idea there was an insane battle coming up). coz it was just uncharacteristically suicidal (not the charging, but the whole thing). then again , so was the stannis battle which was like literally 40 men vs 400 (i still dont believe stannis is dead)
*actually if you take the fact that so many scenes make little sense because we don't feel like we are shown why characters make actions (arya story/scenes, blackfist suicide), its probably because "in the books" we get a full run-down on peoples inner thoughts so things make more sense there, but when they translate them to video they don't do a good job of bringing these inner thoughts over *has never read 1 page from the books* . i get the impression consequently that the series of late is more of a companion to the books, like you should read the books first so you know people's inner thoughts and intentions and then watch the series to see what goes on "around"
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^ I agree that story fuckups like Braavos are most likely because GRRM gave the producers the broad strokes, for example Arya will return to Westeros to do X, and they have to figure out a way to make that happen - combined with what looks like a drastically reduced remaining show runtime (15 episodes in total left?!?) they might have decided to ditch a possible subplot with the Faceless and simply have Arya return as Arya, and let the whole Faceless Men storyline end there.
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On June 21 2016 19:50 shell wrote:
All i want to know is why a fucking giant doesn't get a fucking giant weapon?
If he had a giant sword, axe or even a fucking tree he would have killed hundreds..
If they give him rocks to throw he would be like a trebuchet... god damn noobs
Special effects budget and time. They didn’t have the ability to have him hit troops and ragdoll them around without it looking like shit. The focus of the episode what Jon and the pitched battle, they had to limit what the giant could do.
Have no doubt there was a discussion, they priced it out and decided it couldn’t be done. The biggest limiting factor behind shooting special effects shots is time and the cost of shooting composite shots, which is why the giant is so hard. The special effects on that giant were amazing for a TV show.
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I enjoyed the episode and visually it looked great but am I the only who cannot get over how stupid everything was?
Like the shield thing, the "wall" of dead people, Jon rushing off alone (I mean Jon reactions is understandable but the way it went down was stupid), LF saves the day (obvious but the way it went down was stupid) etc..
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On June 22 2016 07:44 Gullis wrote:
I enjoyed the episode and visually it looked great but am I the only who cannot get over how stupid everything was?
Like the shield thing, the "wall" of dead people, Jon rushing off alone (I mean Jon reactions is understandable but the way it went down was stupid), LF saves the day (obvious but the way it went down was stupid) etc..
Not to mention the unnecessary killing of the slaver's emissaries. Has Dany ever heard of don't shoot the messenger?
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