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MoosyDoosy
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On June 08 2016 00:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: He reads QuickTwist as town, throws shade on Jealous, and then comes back to thread to vote QuickTwist. I see what you mean. I like you moose | ||
emperorchampion
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On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote: I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town. kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me. | ||
MoosyDoosy
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On June 08 2016 00:19 emperorchampion wrote: Hmm pretty convienient you left out this post: That post gives absolutely no reasoning as to why you voted QuickTwist when you came back. What brought about the abrupt read change? | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:23 Skynx wrote: Why suddenly change your post style Moosy? I normally buckle down by N1/D2 after the D1 trolling euphoria dies out. | ||
MoosyDoosy
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On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote: I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team. So what's your read on Jealous now? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On June 08 2016 00:26 emperorchampion wrote: So did you only read the first half of my filter, or do you have blinders on? No, I'm fairly certain I read all 3 pages. | ||
emperorchampion
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On June 06 2016 22:45 emperorchampion wrote: That's pretty crazy actually, I had a read on jealous since the QT-pie incident started. But do you reeaaallly think he could be maf? If so that's some game winning stuff right there for sure. Looking back on it, think how bat shit crazy it would be to start a 10 page argument then post a 10000 word essay on everything. | ||
MoosyDoosy
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On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote: I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town. kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me. I'm presuming kush is Mafia based on the reasoning above? Looks like you also read Superbia and Skynx as mafia. Care to explain the Skynx read? | ||
MoosyDoosy
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On June 08 2016 00:26 emperorchampion wrote: Also I don't think I ever hard read QT as maf, just hypothosised that it was odd QT and Tumble were defending each other. This was the information I was interested in. I dunno you are trying to twist my words I feel I'm also still not quite convinced by this. Tumble was protecting QuickTwist, saying he's a newbie town. At the same time we saw kush protecting Jealous, calling him a newbie town. Why did you think Tumble and QuickTwist were a possible Mafia team and not kush/Jealous? | ||
emperorchampion
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I think super's filter is "empty" as well (obv not in terms of pages), I think he's pretty sketchy. Given who I think is town, it's left down to him as mafia. One issue is that there are a number of wildcards, aka blkcoffee and scott who I have no idea what they could be due to the fact that they haven't really posted anything. So for now super fill this slot. Skynx I would have to look more thoroughly through his filter for specific examples, but I never got the sense that his posts were genuine. | ||
MoosyDoosy
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On June 05 2016 01:41 emperorchampion wrote: I took a look through Tumblewood's filter, since he seems like the only one posting anything of note aside from QT-pie and Jealsus (which is a cesspool I don't want to wade through). + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote: the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. Here it looks like tumble is putting pressure on Jealous. This is based off of defense for QT, since he gave strong townread to QT earlier here: On June 04 2016 09:20 Tumblewood wrote: shitty early d1 reads that I shouldn't be making town: superbia, qt town lean: emperor null: moosy scum lean: jealous scum: [pending further posts] To which is commented: On June 04 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote: if asked to defend any of my reads right now I will only respond by saying "feels" So now that we've framed the context of the first post, I think that there are two ways of interpreting it: 1) He is protecting QT-pie 2) He's calling a bad play a bad play From the previous context, I would think former, but reading the following posts I think the ladder: On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote: what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. In my mind, it seems that there is some sort of triangle between QT-pie, tumble and Jealsus. At first I was thinking that QT/tumble could be a pair, but "6/10" lynch is pretty strong against that, although maybe tumble doesn't think the QT vote will go through so he doesn't have to push it? Jealsus/QT-pie: there are 3 options: 1) both town, 2) town and maf 3) both maf. I think that 3) is pretty unlikely, seems like such a ballsy play to carry out those shenanigans. I think that 2) is more likely than 1). Jealsus/tumble: I think it's fairly well summarized from the post above: "ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills". Also: "Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment" So from this, I find that Jealous is a common thread in all of this, so I would be interested in hearing why he isn't maf, or what he is trying to accomplish aside from generating pages of noise against QT-pie. My towny read on QT still stands, and I think that tumble has shown some decent thought, so I think that I'm leaning town on him as well. Therefore, my maf read sits with Jealous since I want to see how these 3 players unravel. This post makes me raaather suspicious. Town read on QuickTwist, town lean on Tumble, slight scum read on Jealous. Then Tumble protects QuickTwist, kush protects Jealous and you voted QuickTwist off of the reasoning that Tumble and QuickTwist were a possible Mafia team. | ||
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