EPTOn June 07 2016 14:11 Superbia wrote:
Expected kill
Expected kill
Explain please?
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emperorchampion
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Superbia
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Read townie by most. Wrongfully pushing during night. Mafia is predictable. | ||
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Skynx
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I'm gona start since QT lynch since I was away for the night. So up to 47, only clear push on me was from TT. Two other were like mayyyybe on lynching me: Moosy (cuz of qt case), FF (for same reason). Then just before lynch Tumble decides I'm the clear lynch target and tries to get others switch to me for shennanie, doesn't happen tho. Following that Super, btdt reads me mafia out of nowhere. Moosy somewhat mafia reads me but I can't make sense of that post anyway. Tumble gets nk. Moosy 100% sr's me but then is unsure again in same post. Then kush votes for me. You guys know what this looks like? + Show Spoiler + In order of appearance: On May 27 2016 05:25 Koshi wrote: No I am serious. Marv is mafia. Just read his filter. Look how much defense there is in it. Against Rels. Against sicklucker. He is always around for that. People notice it. But he just defends against it but there is never anything more. JAT open eyes. marv is mafia. Also being second on scumlynches as scum is his forte. On May 27 2016 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Day 2 Koshi the VT is dead. It is now Day 2. Day ends Saturday, May 28 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You have to place your votes. On May 27 2016 07:03 marvellosity wrote: Great shot mafia, thank you On May 29 2016 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Night 2 Marvellosity the 2-shot tracker was lynched. Day 2 Final Votecount marvellosity (8): Palmar, Superbia (1): Tumblewood, Vivax (1): marvellosity nnn_thekushmountains (0): Rels: (1) nnn_thekushmountains Damdred (0): Not Voting (0): It's now night 2. Night ends Sunday, May 29 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You have to get in your actions. Moral of the story is I see lots of sr's on me while only TT (and maybe btdt) shows a reasoning behind it. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On June 07 2016 14:50 Superbia wrote: Jealous can you react to my scum read on you in less than 4 sentences? Lie. False. Terrible. Bad. | ||
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Skynx
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Most Town emperor: reads on everything, has his own opinion, insightul for a non-vet, generally active Jealous: Prolly most active, no way he's a good target after QT. [orange]Midway[/orange[ Super: 9 pages filter wtf, mostly one liners, sr's me without basis, bandwagony. Scott: There is the whole didn't get my role pm thing, inactive otherwise Scummy Ticktock: Pressures me D1, changes opinion just before lynch, useless arguing about shennanie which leads to nothing, very vague reads on last few posts. In the end, try-hard to not take any pressure on himself. kush: Acts like this godly figure over the whole game but actual contributions are very small. Mostly arguing with everyone about how QT was bad lynch, teaching Jealous how to play mafia, tryin to find town leader. Gives no clear reads, mostly commenting on others reads. Again professional at acting natural and avoiding pressure. Null: Moosy is unreadable do to the nature of his posts btdt with some good some bad posts but kinda inactive, I can't rly read him blk is gone. | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote: I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this. He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip? | ||
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Superbia
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On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip? That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On June 07 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote: That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why? I absolutely did not take every opportunity.  Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team. Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On June 07 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote: I can explain why I think jealous may be scum but tbh you can prob figure it out from my filter Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On June 08 2016 00:09 Superbia wrote: Ok so you think both kush and jealous are town? Who's your mafia team? I already gave that. I'll suggest it again. Reading the thread might be a good idea. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On June 08 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote: Who's the scum moosy??? read the thread | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On June 04 2016 09:11 emperorchampion wrote: So I'll take a shot at quicktwist's filter: A lot of reads, not sure where from. Purpose could be to create conversation. Seems towny, trying to get more information out of people. Taking the second level logic approach and scum reading superior. Overall agressive and bold claims. Agressive seems scummy, but seems risky to put yourself out so much early on. I can see the information seeking thought process, even if I don't agree with the overall thought process. Read: I'm thinking he's pretty town On June 05 2016 01:41 emperorchampion wrote: I took a look through Tumblewood's filter, since he seems like the only one posting anything of note aside from QT-pie and Jealsus (which is a cesspool I don't want to wade through). + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote: the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. Here it looks like tumble is putting pressure on Jealous. This is based off of defense for QT, since he gave strong townread to QT earlier here: On June 04 2016 09:20 Tumblewood wrote: shitty early d1 reads that I shouldn't be making town: superbia, qt town lean: emperor null: moosy scum lean: jealous scum: [pending further posts] To which is commented: On June 04 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote: if asked to defend any of my reads right now I will only respond by saying "feels" So now that we've framed the context of the first post, I think that there are two ways of interpreting it: 1) He is protecting QT-pie 2) He's calling a bad play a bad play From the previous context, I would think former, but reading the following posts I think the ladder: On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote: what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. In my mind, it seems that there is some sort of triangle between QT-pie, tumble and Jealsus. At first I was thinking that QT/tumble could be a pair, but "6/10" lynch is pretty strong against that, although maybe tumble doesn't think the QT vote will go through so he doesn't have to push it? Jealsus/QT-pie: there are 3 options: 1) both town, 2) town and maf 3) both maf. I think that 3) is pretty unlikely, seems like such a ballsy play to carry out those shenanigans. I think that 2) is more likely than 1). Jealsus/tumble: I think it's fairly well summarized from the post above: "ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills". Also: "Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment" So from this, I find that Jealous is a common thread in all of this, so I would be interested in hearing why he isn't maf, or what he is trying to accomplish aside from generating pages of noise against QT-pie. My towny read on QT still stands, and I think that tumble has shown some decent thought, so I think that I'm leaning town on him as well. Therefore, my maf read sits with Jealous since I want to see how these 3 players unravel. On June 06 2016 03:12 emperorchampion wrote: I'll check back in a few hours before the deadline, but for now my vote lies with QT | ||
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