> Ctrl + F: Frost Wall
> 0/0
Make up my mind on what I'm gonna play instantly.
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vndestiny
Singapore3437 Posts
June 01 2016 13:24 GMT
#21521
> Ctrl + F: Frost Wall > 0/0 Make up my mind on what I'm gonna play instantly. | ||
HolydaKing
21229 Posts
June 01 2016 15:09 GMT
#21522
On June 01 2016 22:24 vndestiny wrote: > Look at patch note. > Ctrl + F: Frost Wall > 0/0 Make up my mind on what I'm gonna play instantly. LA Pierce or EA? Can't blame you... I might just roll something that can clear uber lab for sure on my first build too... | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 01 2016 15:14 GMT
#21523
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
June 01 2016 16:40 GMT
#21524
It's broken on everything it works for but if you just remove the functionality completely KB goes directly to the dumpster and then we're back to 0 wand skills again. But then at least the bow skills would be | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 01 2016 16:45 GMT
#21525
it's single target does suffer badly but it's still a good skill unlike psiphon which is simply a bad skill The awkward part is that wanders don't have a secondary 5/6l to put say barrage in for single target well and the fact that single target damage is becoming one of the key clearspeed limiters which is an issue in the oft-discussed "clearspeed meta", if you really care about that. As somebody who has absolutely no desire to hit 100, I don't care. | ||
r.Evo
Germany14054 Posts
June 01 2016 17:12 GMT
#21526
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LagLovah
Canada552 Posts
June 01 2016 18:20 GMT
#21527
On June 01 2016 21:33 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2016 21:03 LagLovah wrote: Fair warning, scaling physical is very difficult/expensive with iron commander, 600 dex won't cut it. It's why ele ended up being the go to for most users. I initially tried physical last league, it was painful. I have seen it work I think once, but the guy had some interesting gear. Yup, I know. I thought getting 800 shouldn't be too difficult and according to a forum build that feels better than going Ele (except Tooltip), but perhaps I'm wrong and it's hard. If it's too difficult to get 400 Dex from Gear/Jewels I might reconsider... If you use crap uniques it's fairly easy probably. Lioneye's Paws add 60 Dex, Briskwrap (lol) 15% dex or Foxshade with MS, flat phys and 30dex... Rare amu gives 60+ easily etc. Then there's the Suncrest helmet (isn't that cheap? dunno). But yeah it looks like quite the commitment to get it without good rares. I have 613 dex I think on mine, using starkonja helm atziri step astramentis drillneck and iron commander, doesn't leave much room for resists. I looked for a month for a high dex ammy that didn't suck to replace astramenti's, never did find one... my scion is overcapped as well, not a requirement obviously. A lot of the high dex nodes aren't efficient to path over. If you do go for it, I'm interested to see how a pure physical version stands up though. | ||
HolydaKing
21229 Posts
June 01 2016 19:18 GMT
#21528
On June 02 2016 03:20 LagLovah wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2016 21:33 HolydaKing wrote: On June 01 2016 21:03 LagLovah wrote: Fair warning, scaling physical is very difficult/expensive with iron commander, 600 dex won't cut it. It's why ele ended up being the go to for most users. I initially tried physical last league, it was painful. I have seen it work I think once, but the guy had some interesting gear. Yup, I know. I thought getting 800 shouldn't be too difficult and according to a forum build that feels better than going Ele (except Tooltip), but perhaps I'm wrong and it's hard. If it's too difficult to get 400 Dex from Gear/Jewels I might reconsider... If you use crap uniques it's fairly easy probably. Lioneye's Paws add 60 Dex, Briskwrap (lol) 15% dex or Foxshade with MS, flat phys and 30dex... Rare amu gives 60+ easily etc. Then there's the Suncrest helmet (isn't that cheap? dunno). But yeah it looks like quite the commitment to get it without good rares. I have 613 dex I think on mine, using starkonja helm atziri step astramentis drillneck and iron commander, doesn't leave much room for resists. I looked for a month for a high dex ammy that didn't suck to replace astramenti's, never did find one... my scion is overcapped as well, not a requirement obviously. A lot of the high dex nodes aren't efficient to path over. If you do go for it, I'm interested to see how a pure physical version stands up though. I was looking at this guide when I created my tree, but I honestly didn't check the vids of him lol. They really don't look very impressive, even though him doing Poorjoy's at lvl 78 doesn't say too much anyway. Makes me reconsider, because I had a +1 Totem Siege Ballista Ranger /w Chin Sol and no crit before Ascendancys were even out which as far as I remember did more damage (except when all of his 5 totems are out, maybe) while having more totem nodes (tankier totems) and I think also more def. Atziri's Step has 0 dex btw, but I guess you chose it because it's nice defensively. Starkonja probably is worse than a 13-15% Black Sun Crest too. | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 01 2016 20:58 GMT
#21529
I 5L'd my koams heart on HC with a vaal xd 2 decent resists and >1K armour too but very low life haha. wooo end of league vaaling xd | ||
HolydaKing
21229 Posts
June 01 2016 21:14 GMT
#21530
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 01 2016 21:18 GMT
#21531
Unfortunately i'm traditionally an SC player but played hc on perandus so I didn't have a lot of things to merge in general | ||
HolydaKing
21229 Posts
June 01 2016 21:20 GMT
#21532
On June 02 2016 06:18 Sn0_Man wrote: o.o 900+ es is... a lot of T1 mods lol Unfortunately i'm traditionally an SC player but played hc on perandus so I didn't have a lot of things to merge in general Gotta be, and can be, since it was ilvl 100 from the div card set. Which I learned from Perandus is very farmable. Gotta do it again next league, only took me like 20 100iiq maps. Perhaps I was lucky though | ||
Ryndika
1489 Posts
June 01 2016 22:23 GMT
#21533
I might want to make it as my first char but not sure if BF is best to lvl with. I probably have to wait until 70 to go CI and 75 to be confident with gear for CI Discharge because at times those whirlwinds into packs are so yolo. On my testing SC char I've died 2-3 times by whirling in to white pack and I just didn't proc discharge even with 33% base crit (which ups with power charges and dia flask.) The build as non-voll's devotion-char has so many close calls by simply whirling into room and then starting whirling with flasks up. | ||
Hier
2391 Posts
June 02 2016 01:24 GMT
#21534
Environmental traps in the labyrinth now calculate a player's life differently for determining damage. This was previously the total of a player's maximum life and Energy Shield. Now Energy Shield counts as 60% of its value for this purpose. Only Energy Shield covering life is counted. This was determined to be the best ratio applicable to the wide variety of Energy Shield based builds that exist. So in effect, Energy Shield will drain 40% slower when being hit by traps, is that right? | ||
Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 02 2016 01:48 GMT
#21535
On June 02 2016 10:24 Hier wrote: Show nested quote + Environmental traps in the labyrinth now calculate a player's life differently for determining damage. This was previously the total of a player's maximum life and Energy Shield. Now Energy Shield counts as 60% of its value for this purpose. Only Energy Shield covering life is counted. This was determined to be the best ratio applicable to the wide variety of Energy Shield based builds that exist. So in effect, Energy Shield will drain 40% slower when being hit by traps, is that right? if you are ci yes if you are, for example, low life then you won't see quite that much benefit since you'll still be taking full damage from your HP which the ES will be catching If you are EB then you'll see even more benefit | ||
Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
June 02 2016 09:32 GMT
#21536
On June 02 2016 01:45 Sn0_Man wrote: There's no way kb goes "directly to the dumpster" if you remove the pierce interaction with frost wall. it's single target does suffer badly but it's still a good skill unlike psiphon which is simply a bad skill The awkward part is that wanders don't have a secondary 5/6l to put say barrage in for single target well and the fact that single target damage is becoming one of the key clearspeed limiters which is an issue in the oft-discussed "clearspeed meta", if you really care about that. As somebody who has absolutely no desire to hit 100, I don't care. Its single target doesn't 'suffer', though. The single target of KB is absolutely abysmal and as you say, you only get a 4 link for Barrage which is also going to be awful. The only reason anybody would continue to play KB without Frost Wall is if they're really attached to it for some reason. Yeah you can still make a KB character but it's in the same way you can still make an Ice Nova character if you want to. | ||
gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
June 02 2016 13:51 GMT
#21537
Thanks to the awesome rainy weather this weakend and next week i have time to waste. Can someone point me to an good 1st char start build for the HC league? Something like traps or totems or so. e: Nice, i am still in the guild :D | ||
HolydaKing
21229 Posts
June 02 2016 14:25 GMT
#21538
Flametotem, Incinerate Totem, Righteous Fire Totem also work very well of course, but meh I don't like Totems... If you want anyway, Flametotem if crit Inquisitor, else all Chieftain I think (recommended for HC I guess). Lightning Arrow and Explosive Arrow are two other popular skills probably. The later one can stack a lot of Life, while LA has top clear speed potential. Another cool build to think about would be Foxtactic's Hellfire Arc, but I don't know if it's expensive. He says it works fine on HC and is reflect safe. See here for more. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
June 02 2016 14:41 GMT
#21539
On June 02 2016 18:32 Lachrymose wrote: Show nested quote + On June 02 2016 01:45 Sn0_Man wrote: There's no way kb goes "directly to the dumpster" if you remove the pierce interaction with frost wall. it's single target does suffer badly but it's still a good skill unlike psiphon which is simply a bad skill The awkward part is that wanders don't have a secondary 5/6l to put say barrage in for single target well and the fact that single target damage is becoming one of the key clearspeed limiters which is an issue in the oft-discussed "clearspeed meta", if you really care about that. As somebody who has absolutely no desire to hit 100, I don't care. Its single target doesn't 'suffer', though. The single target of KB is absolutely abysmal and as you say, you only get a 4 link for Barrage which is also going to be awful. The only reason anybody would continue to play KB without Frost Wall is if they're really attached to it for some reason. Yeah you can still make a KB character but it's in the same way you can still make an Ice Nova character if you want to. You could go inquisitor for the free 5L's FWIW | ||
Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
June 02 2016 14:54 GMT
#21540
indomitable: 20% reduced extra damage taken from critical strikes will it mitigate damage REFLECTED from my own critical strikes? I am guessing no... but I figured I'd see. | ||
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