Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 4 - Page 75

Good.



Excellent.



Go town!



Wait no! Please no!



Rip in peace.

Well played, until the ending anyway. You were too blatantly obvious trying to play Yamato and Rels off each other. Being passive mafia always carries the risk that town will get their collective heads out of their asses and lynch you.

I think you try to play too fancy sometimes, which can get you into trouble against a non-dysfunctional town. For example, the last minute vote-switch on Slam was a very dangerous play, that got you rightly called out by Rels. You were very fortunate that Vivax existed.

Another example are some very weird posts you made in LYLO.



Townies just don’t think like this in LYLO. It’s just very unbelievable to be 100% convinced that someone is town for those reasons at the end of a game. If you want to tell a more convincing story, you need to harness some of the paranoia and uncertainty of being a townie and put them into your posts.

I don't want to take too much away. Surviving four lynches is quite the feat. But I feel you got way too overconfident towards the end.

It must drive you crazy at how rarely you’re taken seriously in these games. It drives me crazy anyway. It’s clear that you care about the game, and you were far and away the closest thing to a leader the town had. If you want to start being taken seriously and improve, you really need to find some way to control your emotions. You cannot lead a town or be listened to in an emotionally compromised state.

Where this starts is in your reactions to insults. While Vivax and Yamato certainly started the bad atmosphere in the thread, it was your reaction to this that sealed the deal. If you are the person driving early discussion, your reactions carry a lot of weight. And your decision to fight insults with more insults sent town atmosphere into the pit. No one will blame you for acting the way that you did, but that doesn’t change the fact that this game could have looked very different had you chose a different path.

People will call you stupid on Day 1, this is mafia after all. There are many games in which I’m called stupid for the first 24 hours of the game because of some forced case I made to start discussion, only to lead a lynch on mafia on Day 1. You need to stay calm, and take discussion down a more productive path. You’ll be shocked at how many people begin to sheep you when you show that level-headedness.

I get that it sucks. I get that it’s incredibly difficult. But that’s what you need to do to win games. And you’re capable of doing it.

I sort of forgot you were playing. That’s how inactive you were. I wish there was something on your game that I could comment on. You simply can’t get anything done (or avoid being lynched) if you are barely a presence in the thread.

Making silly posts is easy. Thinking critically about the game is difficult. You got lynched because you did more of the former than the latter. And it’s a shame, because you were posting pretty decent analysis in the hours before your death.

I’m glad you have fun playing this game, and it’s not like you have to give up silly posting. But if you want to improve, you need to spend some more time reading and thinking about the game. It’ll go a long way. And lynching mafia is fun.

Well played yo. Really nothing to say, that was an excellent performance. Sorry for teh modkillz.

You lack the emotional maturity to play mafia.

I HAD FAITH THE WHOLE TIME I SWEAR

On March 22 2016 01:56 yamato77 wrote:
I'll be around today somewhat but honestly I don't feel particularly invested in the outcome of this game.

It would be hilarious if rels and kush were the mafia though.

GG.

You were complaining to me about the toxicity of the game earlier, but you did have a hand in creating it. Insulting people in response to pressure is easy, and that’s the path you took. You should know full well that this wasn’t a player list that responds well to insults.

You were disinterested and it showed.

On March 21 2016 04:39 yamato77 wrote:
I have a super hard time believing that mafia geript unvotes town Slam right before the day 1 lynch deadline.

I also thought Rels was fishy since day 1. But I did read his/kush's filter and somehow exclude him. Yet his post today screams mafia to me.
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The results of the game should speak for itself, about how invalid that read was. I find myself saying the same thing every time I coach someone: individual actions do not make someone mafia. Mafia can do any random shit. You find mafia by evaluating the stories of players, and seeing if they are believable and consistent.

These individual, easy, reads just create fatal blindspots.

I HAD FAITH THE WHOLE TIME I SWEAR

You had some very sharp observations this game (particularly on geript). That being said, it feels like you fall prey to “easy” or “lazy” lines of thinking. Day 1 is a good example of this. You had an excellent case on Geript, and pushed it a little. But somehow, you end up on Vivax for reasons I still don’t understand. The only explanation I have is you got lazy and decided to compromise too early.

Your play in LYLO is another excellent example of this.

On March 21 2016 21:35 Rels wrote:
Geript, I read both of your filters and I'm pretty sure yamato is the scum. I can't prove that your feeling about him is wrong 'cause it's a feeling but I can prove I am town and I know how since we've played several games together. Tell me when you're there and I will make you change your mind (= that or you'll be the worst player ever but I'm pretty sure I know how to prove to you I'm town.

This is not an acceptable way to play LYLO if you are interested in winning games. It seems like you just skimmed two filters, and made a huge set of assumptions that led you to believe that geript was town. Instead of critically reading filters, you just latched on to the idea that “Yamato’s play is bad, therefore mafia” which is a terrible argument. Bad play is non-alignment indicative - that is mafia 101. But once you latched onto that idea, you were content to ignore everything else. For example:

On March 22 2016 04:18 Rels wrote:
No, 'cause you have 24 posts between D2 and D5

This is not an argument to call someone mafia. Inactivity =/= mafia. If you had actually analyzed filters, you would have realized that Geript didn't have many more posts in this time frame. These types of simplified reads are terrible analysis, and are easy to latch onto and difficult to let go.

On March 22 2016 04:13 Rels wrote:
Anyway shut up. You're 99% scum pissing me off and 1% super bad town and I think everybody has understood you don't like this so STFU

This is also bad LYLO play. You mentally tunnel yourself into only considering Yamato as mafia. What's the point? The best possible outcome is that you save yourself the effort of reading geript's filter critically. The worst possible outcome is in this game, where you mentally confirm the last remaining mafia as town.

You decided to focus on proving your townieness to geript (making the fatal assumption that he was town), and I can only attribute that to mental laziness. Anyone can make a town-case on themselves. It’s goddamn easy. That’s why it’s a terrible way of playing, because no one will take you seriously. It doesn't matter how "correct" you are, since no one knows you or your habits nearly as well as yourself.

There are silver linings in this game. You had some great posts and ideas. You need to conviction to push them and to put in effort when it really matters.

Look at your filter this game, and ask yourself “how many of my posts talked about reads?” Not many of them did. Sort of like tumblewood, you seemed like a non-entity. You post semi-frequently, but you don’t provide anything of substance unless asked. It’s this lack of initiative that got you into trouble this game.