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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 23:23:23
March 21 2016 23:23 GMT
#1501
I was so sure that town would lose before I threw myself in dota. Way to sort it out yamato.

GGs all. It was an ugly win but a win is a win.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 23:23 GMT
#1502
I laughed at my read progression ^^ yeah I had one good case but dozen bad ones too.
TY yamato for the carry. Shape I never thought you were scum but I just couldn't imagine anyone not being new not killing N1 and N2. Vivax I'm super sorry for being part of your wagon when you were super townie. Lynching you when I kinda knew it was wrong kinda killed my motivation after that actually p:
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 21 2016 23:24 GMT
#1503
On March 22 2016 08:13 geript wrote:
The reason to no kill was part strategic part showboat. 1. I wanted to win on timer, 2. I could avoid watcher/tracker, 3. It was a good spot to no-kill. Town's on an awful track and easy to manipulate. Harder to hide in a few and I can play the long game better. The mistake I made was killing Koshi.

well you totally fucked up with the Slam D1 on 48h lynch, i agree with Hapa on that. Although townies fucked up even more so noone realized that. But you super totally fucked up on your post at the last day. I don't even know if i should feel bad for not being 100% sure you are scum because of it or if yamato/Rels should feel bad for not apparently even looking at the post at all... Dude you literally called out yamato for the same reason you said he is town, then you called Rels scum for a reason that is the OPPOSITE what mafia was doing in this game.

I know rsoultin disagrees with me on the latter but no, it is the mindset. The mindset is wrong.
I have honestly no idea why you decided to say what you did in that post and i have EVEN LESS idea why yamato didn't call you out on that.

Also i disagree with the nk stuff. I think you had won if you killed. Even on one night. Slam/Tumble/Shape were all easy to lynch. You had nothing to worry about as long as they were alive and not blue (which would have fucked you over anyways if that was the case).
table for two on a tv tray
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 21 2016 23:26 GMT
#1504
On March 22 2016 08:20 Vivax wrote:
Hapa trying to be some sort of moral authority is cute, especially since he does so insulting me. I call mafia out in my first post, call a few players bad, and as third party in the situation kush rightly remarks, I get called a cancerous horse cock or something like that, plus yams being awful as he is wants to lynch me for no reason in his first post.


The whole "It's everyone's fault but mine, I swear!" proves my point.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 21 2016 23:26 GMT
#1505
There was nothing wrong with lynching Vivax. It was 100% the correct play regardless of his alignment.
Always. Period.
table for two on a tv tray
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 21 2016 23:27 GMT
#1506
WP Yamato. Only person who was onto me. You had really good points against me while everyone else was blinded by meta.

And then when it mattered you saw sense and killed geript.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 21 2016 23:28 GMT
#1507
On March 22 2016 08:23 Rels wrote:
I laughed at my read progression ^^ yeah I had one good case but dozen bad ones too.
TY yamato for the carry. Shape I never thought you were scum but I just couldn't imagine anyone not being new not killing N1 and N2. Vivax I'm super sorry for being part of your wagon when you were super townie. Lynching you when I kinda knew it was wrong kinda killed my motivation after that actually p:


The thing is, that Geript case was your most well-fleshed out and justified case by far. It's almost as if you get distracted by new reads and information too easily.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 21 2016 23:28 GMT
#1508
The rest of the town sucked terribly.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 21 2016 23:29 GMT
#1509
That said, for someone who had shit (hardly any) time to play, geript did fairly well, I think he said somewhere in mafia qt he used the few hours he had to try and just survive and made most of his opportunities. Mind you, it's easy when a decent chunk of town are playing poor, but overall mindset was good, even if it had a few mistakes.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 21 2016 23:29 GMT
#1510
On March 22 2016 08:26 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 08:20 Vivax wrote:
Hapa trying to be some sort of moral authority is cute, especially since he does so insulting me. I call mafia out in my first post, call a few players bad, and as third party in the situation kush rightly remarks, I get called a cancerous horse cock or something like that, plus yams being awful as he is wants to lynch me for no reason in his first post.


The whole "It's everyone's fault but mine, I swear!" proves my point.


As you rightly said you should have stepped in when Koshi started popping out those insults. I pretty much tried to bring my worst to the table when I realized you were not moderating anything. In every game I play I never push the limit if I know that moderation stops me from doing that, which is why I have never been modkilled in several years.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 21 2016 23:30 GMT
#1511
On March 22 2016 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 08:23 Rels wrote:
I laughed at my read progression ^^ yeah I had one good case but dozen bad ones too.
TY yamato for the carry. Shape I never thought you were scum but I just couldn't imagine anyone not being new not killing N1 and N2. Vivax I'm super sorry for being part of your wagon when you were super townie. Lynching you when I kinda knew it was wrong kinda killed my motivation after that actually p:


The thing is, that Geript case was your most well-fleshed out and justified case by far. It's almost as if you get distracted by new reads and information too easily.


Yeh, the lesson here is sometimes you have to go back to your day 1 reads, this isn't just for Rels, there was another one where Tumbleweed had a GREAT post vindicating (more or less) Shapelog based on disassociation via kush (kush was pushing him) and then Tumbleweed then suggested that Shape was scum later on before Shape was mislynched and I looked in his filter and I couldn't figure out the progression at all for that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 21 2016 23:31 GMT
#1512
On March 22 2016 08:23 Rels wrote:
I laughed at my read progression ^^ yeah I had one good case but dozen bad ones too.
TY yamato for the carry. Shape I never thought you were scum but I just couldn't imagine anyone not being new not killing N1 and N2. Vivax I'm super sorry for being part of your wagon when you were super townie. Lynching you when I kinda knew it was wrong kinda killed my motivation after that actually p:

Tbh, it sounds like something i would do. The only thing that is bad is it major flaw.
Tempo
You give up all control basically with it. U put all your pieces in one gambit, and therefore, can shoot yourself in your own foot (like here.) I try to explain this during my lynching, but it is hard to defend something when you agree with it. I much rather have a extra kill and a more sus. personality than the wait game gambit but it was fair either way.

I like the timer in this game, it gave the game a strategic option that is rare to see.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 21 2016 23:32 GMT
#1513
I don't deny my fault, I also don't deny I'm an asshole in this game, but only an over the limit asshole when I think I can get away with it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 23:32 GMT
#1514
On March 22 2016 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 08:23 Rels wrote:
I laughed at my read progression ^^ yeah I had one good case but dozen bad ones too.
TY yamato for the carry. Shape I never thought you were scum but I just couldn't imagine anyone not being new not killing N1 and N2. Vivax I'm super sorry for being part of your wagon when you were super townie. Lynching you when I kinda knew it was wrong kinda killed my motivation after that actually p:


The thing is, that Geript case was your most well-fleshed out and justified case by far. It's almost as if you get distracted by new reads and information too easily.

Yeah there was no town logic behind the unvote and I shouldn't have discarded it.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 21 2016 23:33 GMT
#1515
On March 22 2016 08:32 Vivax wrote:
I don't deny my fault, I also don't deny I'm an asshole in this game, but only an over the limit asshole when I think I can get away with it.

Eh there's a line you don't cross and you clearly went over it.

But whatever, basically everyone except you seems to understand this so I'm sure this falls on deaf ears.
Writer@WriterYamato
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2016 23:38 GMT
#1516
On March 22 2016 08:32 Vivax wrote:
I don't deny my fault, I also don't deny I'm an asshole in this game, but only an over the limit asshole when I think I can get away with it.

Murder's fine when you can get away with it right?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 21 2016 23:39 GMT
#1517
shitfest take 27
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 21 2016 23:40 GMT
#1518
On March 22 2016 08:39 rsoultin wrote:
shitfest take 27

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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 21 2016 23:43 GMT
#1519
On March 22 2016 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 08:23 Rels wrote:
I laughed at my read progression ^^ yeah I had one good case but dozen bad ones too.
TY yamato for the carry. Shape I never thought you were scum but I just couldn't imagine anyone not being new not killing N1 and N2. Vivax I'm super sorry for being part of your wagon when you were super townie. Lynching you when I kinda knew it was wrong kinda killed my motivation after that actually p:


The thing is, that Geript case was your most well-fleshed out and justified case by far. It's almost as if you get distracted by new reads and information too easily.

TBH, that case was easy to throw off. Like, I'll get off of that lynch 100x out of 100 as town too. It's a player specific thing. There's 2 people calling each other scum who are voting with me. No one else was at all happy with that lynch. The "need to lynch" post was strategic because less than half the game was even voting at that point.

I'm still counting this a W for me. Kush getting modkilled changed the strategy really heavily. IDK who we would've killed, it probably would've been yam and coasted from there to an easy victory. IDK. But the "cute" unvote was just being me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 21 2016 23:46 GMT
#1520
On March 22 2016 08:29 Half the Sky wrote:
That said, for someone who had shit (hardly any) time to play, geript did fairly well, I think he said somewhere in mafia qt he used the few hours he had to try and just survive and made most of his opportunities. Mind you, it's easy when a decent chunk of town are playing poor, but overall mindset was good, even if it had a few mistakes.

This other point. When you look at how much control I had over a variety of lynches, then consider that I've worked 11.5 shifts in the past 2 weeks, been to the ER twice for 3 and 5 hours, often worked over an hour or two on most shifts, had 3 4-6 hour D&D sessions... Like, you can play and be active with as little as an hour or two regardless of alignment. It's why it's so important to lynch players like Tumble who have <2 pages on D3.
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