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On January 01 2016 11:22 deth2munkies wrote: Let's be real, MLG went all in on CoD and failed. ESL got CoD World Championships and that was the nail in the coffin. Honestly, I skipped an MLG that was within 4 hours of me for the first time this year because I just didn't care enough to go. I didn't care about SF5, didn't care about CoD, didn't care about Halo, and only somewhat cared about Smash Bros. Riot pulling LoL, Halo losing its audience, SC2 losing most of its audience, and losing CoD to ESL, it's hard to think why MLG was even still in it. The CSGO shift was too little, too late.
That said, I always took them existing for granted and they were a recognizable brand. It's sad to see them go.
Four hours is close in the usa?
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If this is talking about most of their assets, that means ActiBlizz bought MLG's streaming platform too, right? I remember Richard Lewis mentioning that they were in the market to have their own streaming service on Unfiltered a while back. Maybe I'm misremembering.
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On January 01 2016 15:12 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2016 11:22 deth2munkies wrote: Let's be real, MLG went all in on CoD and failed. ESL got CoD World Championships and that was the nail in the coffin. Honestly, I skipped an MLG that was within 4 hours of me for the first time this year because I just didn't care enough to go. I didn't care about SF5, didn't care about CoD, didn't care about Halo, and only somewhat cared about Smash Bros. Riot pulling LoL, Halo losing its audience, SC2 losing most of its audience, and losing CoD to ESL, it's hard to think why MLG was even still in it. The CSGO shift was too little, too late.
That said, I always took them existing for granted and they were a recognizable brand. It's sad to see them go. Four hours is close in the usa? Four hours of driving at mostly freeway speeds (65-80 mph), yeah.
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On January 01 2016 14:33 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: Blizard didn't buy MLG, they bought their assets. MLG is basically gutted, I don't think they can run a tournament at this point, so no, we still won't be seeing SC2 at an MLG. SC2 will be at whatever Blizzard intends with the MLG assets. Blizzard didn't buy MLG. Activision bought MLG. This was CoD based imo. Sespo and Puckett going to Activision a few months back shows it
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On January 01 2016 15:39 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2016 14:33 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: Blizard didn't buy MLG, they bought their assets. MLG is basically gutted, I don't think they can run a tournament at this point, so no, we still won't be seeing SC2 at an MLG. SC2 will be at whatever Blizzard intends with the MLG assets. Blizzard didn't buy MLG. Activision bought MLG. This was CoD based imo. Sespo and Puckett going to Activision a few months back shows it Nobody bought MLG, at all. MLG is still its own entity. What was sold was MLG's assets, not the entire corporation and name rights.
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more competition is always good in the streaming world
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On January 01 2016 14:33 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: Blizard didn't buy MLG, they bought their assets. MLG is basically gutted, I don't think they can run a tournament at this point, so no, we still won't be seeing SC2 at an MLG. SC2 will be at whatever Blizzard intends with the MLG assets. Appparently they're running the 2016 CS:GO Major.
Anyway, I wonder what the deal of MLG is. Like ESL and and Dreamhack are constantly expanding, doing crazy shit, and MLG seemed like it was taking the backseat. I heard they had an MLG Brazil and and arena opening up in China, but ultimately went everywhere.
It felt like there was a year or two where they had a shell of their wonderful circuit system.
Anyway, this is probably all Activision proper. They've basically subsidize MLG's entire business the last few years, this is probably them cutting out the middle man. It'd be nice to flex to see more money and events for the Blizzard games I like.
Ultimately it comes down to what this new Esports Division for Activision Blizzard wants to do, ESL has some exclusivity with COD so I wonder what's gonna happen.
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China6323 Posts
They did not buy MLG as a company, they bought MLG assets, the original MLG company still exists, albeit that doesn't mean anything any more.
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From what I can tell MLG is basically selling parts of itself in order to make some money before they decide to close shop permanently. I really thougth MLG was doing better.
This obviously is Activision, and not Blizzard, wanting to get hold of MLG's technology. It's cheap as hell money wise, for Activision at least, remember that they bought another company for 5 billion earlier this year... 46 million is like a waterdrop in the sea.
I give MLG another half a year before they vanish completely.
EDIT: I don't think for a second that this is done because Activision Blizzard are making some kind of "push" or investment into tournament streaming online, if they did they would invest more than 46 million...
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Stopped caring about MLG in 2012, doubt it will get better with this though
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Glad I went to the Last MLG in Anaheim :\ Such a fun experience, but basically a last hurray.
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I legitimately didn't think MLG still existed. I was surprised
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On January 01 2016 17:06 LongShot27 wrote: I legitimately didn't think MLG still existed. I was surprised same... a bit surprised about what their assets were worth too!
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On January 01 2016 16:54 Cricketer12 wrote: Stopped caring about MLG in 2012, doubt it will get better with this though Same... and to some people saying ESL isn't doing well, I wonder if they have some proof. I thought it looked like ESL was getting bigger and bigger last year. I also don't watch their big viewership hits (CS:GO and I think also LoL), though. And if you only watch SC2 like me, then I can imagine you'd think they're not doing so well, but looking at their other games' tournaments it's looking great for them I thought.
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On January 01 2016 17:45 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2016 16:54 Cricketer12 wrote: Stopped caring about MLG in 2012, doubt it will get better with this though Same... and to some people saying ESL isn't doing well, I wonder if they have some proof. I thought it looked like ESL was getting bigger and bigger last year. I also don't watch their big viewership hits (CS:GO and I think also LoL), though. And if you only watch SC2 like me, then I can imagine you'd think they're not doing so well, but looking at their other games' tournaments it's looking great for them I thought.
E-sports in general are not doing as well as people had hoped. I wouldn't say they are doing poorly in any way. But people really predicted an explosion this decade that really hasn't materialized yet.
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On January 01 2016 16:06 digmouse wrote: They did not buy MLG as a company, they bought MLG assets, the original MLG company still exists, albeit that doesn't mean anything any more. The original MLG company is being renamed to 'MLG Legacy Holdings' as per the agreement. It's possible they sold the branding too. Without more details we can't really understand what's going on. MLG had two bigger events planned, a CS:GO major and the American quals for the Halo World Championship.
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with 3 really competitive games like sc, hots and overwach and a possible *new game like a wc4 over the next 3 years having a blizz championship could be realistically on the cards, lets face it, aquiring everything mlg had is a markdown at best and im sure blizz and activision can re purpose whatever dit is theu bought . . . .what do mlg have exactly apart froma name?
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Never been impressed by MLG, they dump games on the drop of a hat rather than try to build up the franchise.
I still cant see what Blizzard is trying to achieve with the purchase, unless its to umbrella Overwatch and Heathstone. Starcraft 2 is almost dead in the USA player wise, so i cant see any quality tournaments happening for SC2 scene
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On January 01 2016 18:59 Topdoller wrote: Never been impressed by MLG, they dump games on the drop of a hat rather than try to build up the franchise.
I still cant see what Blizzard is trying to achieve with the purchase, unless its to umbrella Overwatch and Heathstone. Starcraft 2 is almost dead in the USA player wise, so i cant see any quality tournaments happening for SC2 scene
A. assets. They didn't buy "MLG". They purchased assets. I don't know what all that entails but they do have had offices in NYC and an arena in Columbus OH. I'd venture the plan is to use the assets to produce esports content.
B. it was an activision-blizzard purchase. This could very well be more for Activision. Or.. Blizzard wants to run Blizzcon twice a year with one event closer to the east coast.
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On January 01 2016 18:05 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2016 17:45 HolydaKing wrote:On January 01 2016 16:54 Cricketer12 wrote: Stopped caring about MLG in 2012, doubt it will get better with this though Same... and to some people saying ESL isn't doing well, I wonder if they have some proof. I thought it looked like ESL was getting bigger and bigger last year. I also don't watch their big viewership hits (CS:GO and I think also LoL), though. And if you only watch SC2 like me, then I can imagine you'd think they're not doing so well, but looking at their other games' tournaments it's looking great for them I thought. E-sports in general are not doing as well as people had hoped. I wouldn't say they are doing poorly in any way. But people really predicted an explosion this decade that really hasn't materialized yet. I feel like that statement is extremely naive. You should do research and get informed with the many successes Esports has had this decade. Here's a starting point, multiple games earning spots on ESPN is a pretty big deal.
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