Student Mafia XVI - Page 108

On October 21 2015 19:52 boxerfred wrote:
I like Vonthin's response to my questions, I dislike that he scumreads me. He's not the lynch for today though imho.

Let me bring his scum read on me up:


I think you refer to one big, seemingly confusing post only and this is a post that is built up quite logically: I caught up, and while I was catching up, I quoted posts that I deemed interesting. I even said that on top of that post. Go have a re-read of that post.
Regarding my Moosy read: I contradicted myself in that read. I was wrong, that's about it. That's why I later said that it was bullshit. I also refrained from my Moosy scumread although it really bothers me that he's not around. So no, I have not continued pushing Moosy, you're misrepresenting the facts. However I still do not have a townread Moosy, although I liked his posts N1 a bit.
Third, regarding the "I just skimmed" case - it was simply honest, sorry if that makes me look bad. Read into that whatever you want, I don't care.

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I'm wondering why Farah pushes a MD lynch since her case on ES was/is good. Why the preference now that MD apparently isn't here? Also why that townread on Shining? I don't get the "emotional" argument at all, one can fake his/her meta. Elaborate please. Then again, I wonder why Farah removes GB from her "remaining scum" list. I think your reads of shining and GB are really weak.



I also dislike that Fecalfeast comes into the thread once he's under pressure. Why not do this before? Not interested to solve the game? If so, why not? I strongly think there's scum in between GB and FF, maybe MD but I don't have a solid case on that. I guess MD will break my neck the longer I survive in that game because I cannot tell if he's town or scum but I still have that scum feeling. I had the same fucking feeling in the game we played when he was scum and talked everyone into oblivion, however I was mislynched before being able to get him lynched. I actually have a good grasp on that game, SL and MD are the only ones I don't have at least a reasoned opinion on. That, among with my standing as a townread person, will probably get me shot soon. Well, some casualties cannot be prevented.

Fecal as of now I don't have the time to really look at the games you mentioned towards me. Hold me at it, I'll try to do so this evening.

The lynch should happen in between FF/GB/ES/Shining. I think those guys have the highest chance to flip scum. Second tier lynches are MD/SL(though GB scumreads him which actually makes me rethink that)/VonThin. Don't lynch: Farah. Never lynch: Rels, boxerfred.

On October 24 2015 22:36 boxerfred wrote:
I want to hang GlowingBear. He was always under the radar. He wasn't too active at any point. The other arguments that were brought up were decent. And here's another thing that makes me think he's scum:


He was the one who started the Moosy votes. After successfully lynching Moosy, shifting thread sentiment against me with the TMI argument, he says during night that he doesn't really care or something like that.

As I said D2 already: a lynch between Farah and Eversince would've been a good idea. I strongly think that only one of them (most likely Eversince) is scum. But after Farah's weak EoD2 and the weird Shining/Farah interaction I'm not so sure of that anymore. I'm down to say that in a world where Farah or ES are scum, the chances are distributed like 70-30 or maybe even 60-40.

GlowingBear in the meantime is the one who did nothing all the time. His D1 started with a "lol we're both scum" interaction with Moosy, a resemblance to their previous game. That already sent some townies on the wrong track. He also jumped to my defence when Moosy pushed me D1 which makes sense as scum but not as town. As town, you want to pressure people into getting more answers, especially low volume posters like me. As scum, you're fine to see people fight about lynches that do not target your fellow scum members, so of course you sometimes defend townies. GB pocketed me with that, I never really looked into him apart from my rather general thoughts during D2.


This is an awesome answer. At that point, GB isn't ad hom to anyone, except to kelsier who starts scumreading him at this point. Why would GB defend me in a well-reasoned manner and then just answer to kelsier in that way? Only difference in those situations is that in a), I (town) am under attack and scum!GB is fine with whatever way the pressure goes while in b), GB (scum) is under attack and of course he doesn't want that to gain traction. Right?

Next up, more fillers:




Followed by a list post:


...which has kelsier as a scumread and, interestingly enough, Farah as a townread. The same Farah that actually removed GB for weak arguments from her "pool of potential scum" D2:


This whole post is scummy for the following reasons:
a) townread D1 by GB, Farah removes GB for "well he tried a bit to hunt scum" reasons from her scum pool.
b) "scum has little motivation to jump on and off if Scott is scum" - that's a town alignment argument from Farah towards GB. However GB uses the same argument but reconstructs it as a TMI to push me because I jumped off MoosyDoosy and on FF.

To me it's pretty clear that GB and Farah are 2/3 scum members together. Sicklucker also started townreading Eversince so at this point I'm pretty sure we have bad town Eversince and scum!Farah. My best bet would be a GB/Farah/Shining scumteam because of some tinfoilhatty "they know themselves outside in RL" and because I think since D2 that Shining is a bad player.

Also, in GB's list post D1, he soft-bussed already on Shining, saying that he had a horrendous entry to the game. GB is definitely capable of doing that simply to be able to stay under the radar as soon as anything against his scummate Shining gains traction.

##vote GlowingBear

On October 25 2015 18:16 boxerfred wrote:
GB is totally scum with Farah. Initially I thought that her conversation with Rels is legit. She looked frustrated up to the point where she voted herself. Then she went into "no not playing here" and "yo everybody is dumb" - sorry, no, no, no! This simply is not legit anymore. She's "contributing" (i.e. martyring into ES push). I said since D2 that it's either ES or Farah and contrary to Farah, ES actually participated in the game and did not martyr at any point. He's way more legit than Farah is although Farah (maybe due to the fact she's a native speaker) is way better at communicating her arguments. I was sure and still am that there is one scum between ES and Farah and the moosy lynch should've been the decision between Farah and ES, I know that now. Right now, Farah uses the town cred she got from a D1 case to re-jump on ES. Note how she didn't care at all(!!!!!!) when the lynch was on Moosy and not on ES. But right now where GB is under pressure, she gets in a hardcore fight with Rels and continues to push ES! No way!

And thanks FF for claiming. I know I'm not supposed to counterclaim but - FF isn't the vet. He is scum trying to get the real doctor to counterclaim. The setup is Vig, Town, RB/GF/Goon. I am doctor, I softened it two times already:




Both bolded parts mention the fact that Doctor cannot heal himself. The scumteam consists of FF/GB/Farah and that's it. FF is the 100% lynch, he's scum willing to exchange to the Doctor. I'm counterclaiming because I feel like we're fucking close to mislynching ES (NOTE THAT SICKLUCKER ALSO SAID ES IS TOWN BEFORE HE DIED BUT HAD CONCERNS TOWARDS FARAH!!!!)

##unvote ##vote FecalFeast safest call here