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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 31 2015 01:16 GMT
#2181
So basically vonthin I'd like you to go through the shining's case and talk about your mindset in the situations he describes. Specificaly the stuff that takes place AFTER your 9 initial posts

GB, play the fucking game you have promised content so much
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 03:12 GMT
#2182
On October 31 2015 10:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
So basically vonthin I'd like you to go through the shining's case and talk about your mindset in the situations he describes. Specificaly the stuff that takes place AFTER your 9 initial posts

GB, play the fucking game you have promised content so much


Tomorrow morning

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 31 2015 03:17 GMT
#2183
Well, fair warning, I usually sleep until about an hour before deadline. If you can't get anything convincing done by then I don't see why I should move my vote
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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 31 2015 03:44 GMT
#2184
On October 31 2015 07:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB has done nothing for the second half of this game. All he has done is either sheep, say he isn't scum, say he is going to do something but hasn't done it. The only thing he has put effort in the second half was the push going after FF to save BF. If he is town he is obviously not trying to win which is funny cause he has said stuff like

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 02:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:
Something is wrong with this game.


Yes. Too many townies not trying.


Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:01 Rels wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hi guys, can I be the third lurker coming out of the wood?

why did he fucking post that. It's the reason everybody stayed on him


The "play to win" isn't a rule anymore, I suppose


Pretty Hypocritical of him there if he is town cause he is definitely not trying or playing to win. I will make a more indepth case like the post you made today with all the stuff I have already posted and more like some VCA. Also now that you made this case against me all GB is gonna do is sheep it and still not do any work and just skate and win the game. Also the fact that you are 100% positive that I'm scum when you said his filter looks just as scummy as mine and that he hasn't been trying is pretty laughable considering this is lylo.


As for my 4 page filter and early game reads and lists being poor I don't have any more excuses, I just tried to do what I did in my last game but its been hard without being 100% sure about people with my cop reads. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/433102-newbie-mini-mafia-l?user=Vonthin is my last game for reference.

Majority of your case are just overeading things since you have thought I was scum for a lot of the game and its clouding your judgement on GB. Also I wasn't the first to propose we lynch today, I was just the first person to vote for someone. GB said we shouldn't NL first and for good reasons. If we did NL then the confirmed town will just get shot since GB is the RB and it doesn't help at all. Plus why NL when I have solved the game for awhile now. Also Rels looked pretty sure that GB was mafia, he was just questioning someone else asking them if they really think me or you was scum and you misread it.

Even if you think I am 100% scum please go do what you did with my case for GB, I don't see how you will think he is town with all the shit he has posted after you do it.





This post is so scummy, tho, especially coming from a newbie that's never played with me before. If you think it's laughable that I'm 100% that you're scum, the same applies to you being 100% on me being town. If you were town, after that case, you would be at least a tiny bit suspicious of me, since in a town's eyes, that would be the case that could lose you the game. But you're more concerned with trying to get me onto GB instead of clearing yourself.

If I shouldn't be 100% scum on you, there is no way you should be 100% on the fact that I'm town after casing you. I'm very interested to see what you come up with with your in-depth post.

The part about the last game is meh. You're so conscious of your meta and you just admitted to trying to do what you did last game. I never try to stick to what I did in last games, sans this large case to win in lylo. I just play the game and try to find scum. The effort to get me to metaread you as town just makes me more suspicious.

The fact that you snap-voted also makes you look worse, Imo. Yes, GB suggested the NL was a bad idea first but wanted to analyze before just voting. You just voted to try to get GB to lead the vote or get to 2 first to win with the mislynch. And if you think GB is scum, you wouldn't be agreeing with him not wanting to NL for good reasons. It's also laughable to think you solved the game for a while now but let everyone else do the work until it came to GB.

And for everything I typed up, its interesting you point out the piece about Rels to tell me I misread it. It's still a possibility that he was open to looking more in-depth into the game, which is why he asked about us. You couldn't risk letting him do so. But you're more aware of my point on the NK instead of any of your mindsets during your questionable activity.

Fecal, GB, pls
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 31 2015 04:05 GMT
#2185
frick, can you blame me for not wanting to let gb get away with such a scummy game?
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 31 2015 04:22 GMT
#2186
On October 31 2015 12:44 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2015 07:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB has done nothing for the second half of this game. All he has done is either sheep, say he isn't scum, say he is going to do something but hasn't done it. The only thing he has put effort in the second half was the push going after FF to save BF. If he is town he is obviously not trying to win which is funny cause he has said stuff like

On October 23 2015 02:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:
Something is wrong with this game.


Yes. Too many townies not trying.


On October 23 2015 05:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:01 Rels wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hi guys, can I be the third lurker coming out of the wood?

why did he fucking post that. It's the reason everybody stayed on him


The "play to win" isn't a rule anymore, I suppose


Pretty Hypocritical of him there if he is town cause he is definitely not trying or playing to win. I will make a more indepth case like the post you made today with all the stuff I have already posted and more like some VCA. Also now that you made this case against me all GB is gonna do is sheep it and still not do any work and just skate and win the game. Also the fact that you are 100% positive that I'm scum when you said his filter looks just as scummy as mine and that he hasn't been trying is pretty laughable considering this is lylo.


As for my 4 page filter and early game reads and lists being poor I don't have any more excuses, I just tried to do what I did in my last game but its been hard without being 100% sure about people with my cop reads. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/433102-newbie-mini-mafia-l?user=Vonthin is my last game for reference.

Majority of your case are just overeading things since you have thought I was scum for a lot of the game and its clouding your judgement on GB. Also I wasn't the first to propose we lynch today, I was just the first person to vote for someone. GB said we shouldn't NL first and for good reasons. If we did NL then the confirmed town will just get shot since GB is the RB and it doesn't help at all. Plus why NL when I have solved the game for awhile now. Also Rels looked pretty sure that GB was mafia, he was just questioning someone else asking them if they really think me or you was scum and you misread it.

Even if you think I am 100% scum please go do what you did with my case for GB, I don't see how you will think he is town with all the shit he has posted after you do it.





This post is so scummy, tho, especially coming from a newbie that's never played with me before. If you think it's laughable that I'm 100% that you're scum, the same applies to you being 100% on me being town. If you were town, after that case, you would be at least a tiny bit suspicious of me, since in a town's eyes, that would be the case that could lose you the game. But you're more concerned with trying to get me onto GB instead of clearing yourself.

If I shouldn't be 100% scum on you, there is no way you should be 100% on the fact that I'm town after casing you. I'm very interested to see what you come up with with your in-depth post.

The part about the last game is meh. You're so conscious of your meta and you just admitted to trying to do what you did last game. I never try to stick to what I did in last games, sans this large case to win in lylo. I just play the game and try to find scum. The effort to get me to metaread you as town just makes me more suspicious.

The fact that you snap-voted also makes you look worse, Imo. Yes, GB suggested the NL was a bad idea first but wanted to analyze before just voting. You just voted to try to get GB to lead the vote or get to 2 first to win with the mislynch. And if you think GB is scum, you wouldn't be agreeing with him not wanting to NL for good reasons. It's also laughable to think you solved the game for a while now but let everyone else do the work until it came to GB.

And for everything I typed up, its interesting you point out the piece about Rels to tell me I misread it. It's still a possibility that he was open to looking more in-depth into the game, which is why he asked about us. You couldn't risk letting him do so. But you're more aware of my point on the NK instead of any of your mindsets during your questionable activity.

Fecal, GB, pls



GB is scum. He has done nothing for most of the game. Lots of scummy shit. Minimal interactions with ES and Boxer. You casing me is why I am 100% on you, if you were scum you could just continue to go on GB and secure the easy win instead of splitting the focus between everyone. Also pushing for someone who is a better case is my defense cause you clearly arn't seeing how scummy GB is.

You are so deadset on lynching me that you are going to let GB just say hey I will do this for you later and win the game.

I didn't and still don't see a reason to NL today when GB is scum and we can end it now.

Also I pushed for GB and Boxer(even before the claim) yesterday so I don't know how you can say everyone else did the work.

ALSO WHY WOULD BOXER CLAIM IF GB WAS TOWN?!?!?! IT ONLY MAKES SENSE IF HE IS SCUM.


anyways im going to bed now, lynch me if you want shining and enjoy losing the game.

will do what you ask tomorrow FF, should be here around noon est
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
October 31 2015 04:59 GMT
#2187
Day 5 Vote Count


GlowingBear (2): Vonthin, Fecalfeast, The Shining
Vonthin (1): The Shining
No lynch (0): Fecalfeast

Not Voting (1): GlowingBear

Currently, GlowingBear is set to be lynched.

This day ends at Saturday, Oct 31 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). Whoever has the most votes on them at that time gets lynched.

Voting is mandatory.

Countdown:

Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 05:01 GMT
#2188
On October 31 2015 13:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
frick, can you blame me for not wanting to let gb get away with such a scummy game?


I will not get away. I have plenty of reasons to believe Vonthin is mafia. But I'm only building a case when I finish reading shining.

I will sleep now. Tomorrow will be the day.
I'm adorable.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 31 2015 05:07 GMT
#2189
Boxer claimed to get FF lynched for his claim. Boxer had NO WAY OF KNOWING FF WAS GOING TO CLAIM. If FF would have never claimed, GB would've been the lynch, which was his goal. And he would have had no one to CC. He WANTED that lynch to go through to win the game.

Meh w.e you played a decent scum game Vonthin and GB is doing absolutely nothing to make it any easier on town, which is why you'll probably win. GG
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 31 2015 05:26 GMT
#2190
On October 31 2015 14:07 The Shining wrote:
Boxer claimed to get FF lynched for his claim. Boxer had NO WAY OF KNOWING FF WAS GOING TO CLAIM. If FF would have never claimed, GB would've been the lynch, which was his goal. And he would have had no one to CC. He WANTED that lynch to go through to win the game.

Meh w.e you played a decent scum game Vonthin and GB is doing absolutely nothing to make it any easier on town, which is why you'll probably win. GG

Let him twist in the wind. I won't miss this deadline I promise. I will set many alarms.

I have thoughts on your case but really, REALLY need gb to say things with substance.
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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 31 2015 07:49 GMT
#2191
Yeah GB makes me sad
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 15:19 GMT
#2192
I've been busy. Sorry.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 16:21 GMT
#2193
Okay, guys. I've messed up. I thought I would have time to do shit. I won't.

I wanted to bring a lot of things I've found on Vonthin and make a tidy case. It won't be possible.

Anyway, after reading Vonthin's filter, his first posts looked actually very townie. The problem is the page 3 of his filter.

If you go to page three, you will see that he says Boxerfred is 100% scum, but he never votes him. Instead, he starts to push a "team" of Farah and Boxerfred, hard pushing Farah instead.

Then he makes a team of GB/BF. Then he votes me. If Boxerfred is 100% scum, why voting me first?

Plus, why does he consider "teams" up to the lynch? He said repeatedly "GB/BF" and "ES/Farah", conveniently paring a scum to a townie, AND PUSHING THE TOWNIES from those teams. Never the scum.

This is the main argument on why Vonthin is mafia.

Other argument are the night kills. All the dead townies were suspecting Vonthin. But especially Farah. Why is Farah dead instead of any of the confirmed? Because she was on the right track and with her dead the Roleblocker wasn't in risk of being lynched. It was better to have the townie with the correct reads dead than risk losing the game. And Farah suspected Vonthin

Finally, but weak: drunk bear can't be wrong twice.

##Vote: Vonthin

Unfortunately, I probably won't have time to double check Shining, but I have enough reasons to lynch Vonthin.

FF, I'm not mafia. I swear I'm town. If you lose this game because I'm mafia I will never be against you policy lymching me in any other games.

I swear I'm town.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 16:30 GMT
#2194
It is perfect. If you pair a scum and a town you can always get towncred from the lynch and go full throttle against the paired townie.

Farah gets shot, Vonthin goes for the Boxerfred/GB, starts lynching GB but joins Boxerfred wagon when he looks very bad. Then votes me without giving a single thought on Eversince, and never think shining could be scum. Just "kill GB kill GB kill GB"
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 16:34 GMT
#2195
Another thing: just to show how they overvalued the roleblocker: day1 Votecount shows a bus occurred
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 16:35 GMT
#2196
I mean, no, I'm stupid.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 16:40 GMT
#2197
I mean YES, I'm not stupid.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 31 2015 17:28 GMT
#2198
Yeah I don't have time for this BS

GB does nothing for more than half the game, pushes things off and never delivers. 0 effort town not trying to win or he is scum. Pretty obvious here. Also GB all the stuff about the NKs you posted is pure WIFOM and you know it since you killed them to make me look worse.


Also Shining your post makes 0 sense, why would he claim to discredit FF when people were still pushing for GB and going for him hard even after the FF claim, hell the FF claim made GB look worse since they have fought each other was scum for most of the game. BF claim was protecting GB otherwise there was still no reason to do it, most of the game thought FF was town before his claim since he started to finally play the game and acting like one, majority of the game thought Boxer was scum at that point so its obvious that more people were going to believe FF who claimed first + Boxers weak breadcrumbs.



I've made my case for GB, vote for who you want, have to go do stuff to prepare for this evening. Don't think I will be around for the deadline.


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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 31 2015 18:39 GMT
#2199
Frick
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 31 2015 19:02 GMT
#2200
On November 01 2015 03:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Frick


I've done what I've could inside my schedule. I'm sorry I couldn't do more. But the only way shining is mafia is if Vonthin is town. Because I'm town. And everything points to Vonthin being magia

I'm drunk again and my drunk senses are already pointing out to Vonthin.

Trust drunk bear.
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