EPT2. Vivax
8. Xatalos
13. yamato77
3. Blazinghand
4. gumshoe
6. Hopeless1der
7. raynpelikoneet
9. Onegu
12. ritoky
5. GlowingBear
10. Chromatically
11. Alakaslam
groups are in no particular order (e.g. rayn would be higher)
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
2. Vivax 8. Xatalos 13. yamato77 3. Blazinghand 4. gumshoe 6. Hopeless1der 7. raynpelikoneet 9. Onegu 12. ritoky 5. GlowingBear 10. Chromatically 11. Alakaslam groups are in no particular order (e.g. rayn would be higher) | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On October 23 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote: yes, bussing each other is pussy way out because it means you don't have the balls to tunnel a townie gonna have to try meta Chrome at some point. My evening cleared up (i was gonna be afk all weekend and spring that on you guys when i finished work, but my plans fell through) I don't like any of these posts much. I don't think the anger thing is a good reason to townread yamato. I made an unexplained punt vote on GB and it reads as a bit of a weird defence. I'm also not sure that Chrome should be getting strong townfeels from the post i made rather than others/the whole body of play. Also have this nagging feeling where Chrome described ritoky as picking up on "textbook mafia tells" and he's essentially doing the exact same thing with Xatalos. I don't like it. I understand picking up on Xata's read progression on rayn, I think it's possibly reasonable to be suspicious of that, but the rest of it I don't think I like much. Well yeah I guess it's a bit odd... He basically suspected ritoky for making a reasonably similar case as his own latest case.... I mean the way of taking general scum traits (keeping options open etc.) then just finding some post where it could be applied and base the case on that. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 23 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote: 1. marvellosity 2. Vivax 8. Xatalos 13. yamato77 3. Blazinghand 4. gumshoe 6. Hopeless1der 7. raynpelikoneet 9. Onegu 12. ritoky 5. GlowingBear 10. Chromatically 11. Alakaslam groups are in no particular order (e.g. rayn would be higher) Could you explain the scum read on me other than my read on Vivax? Also, how come hopeless and onegu looks better than chrom? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
other than your read on Vivax i can't really think of anything that would make you town. so all that's left is a bad read on vivax. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count Vivax (3): gumshoe, GlowingBear, Onegu GlowingBear (3): raynpelikoneet (3): Blazinghand, Xatalos (1): Chromatically Chromatically (0): Alakaslam (0): ritoky (0): Onegu (0): Not listed (3): marvellosity, Hopeless1der, ritoky Looks like it's time to sack Vivax for being a traitor! Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). The quality control list is here. The automated list counter is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43226 Posts
On October 23 2015 19:17 marvellosity wrote: It feels to me like he decided to scumread rayn and then is kinda just picking out posts to make it happen. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On October 23 2015 23:17 Xatalos wrote: I mean... Posting a lot (including filler) is my town meta. As scum, I select more carefully what I post. Waffling is something I will do as scum, but also as town, so it's not really.... a point. I think my read on BH is decent, do you disagree with it? Even rayn finally admitted it wasn't meritless (at least "from my perspective" lol). Not sure why scumhunting is scummy again. It's not like I showed suspicion towards rayn baselessly. I made the point as just a general point not really looking at meta, but when I do look at meta I don't see a lot of filler as either alignment. Waffling I thought I saw more of as mafia than as town, as town I thought I saw a lot more confident reads on people (posting "X is probably town" etc). I didn't think that was strong enough to post though and the post was long enough already. I do disagree on BH, I think the RNG thing at the beginning was entirely not alignment indicative and there was no reason to townread him for it but that's been talked about a lot already and you could be town that just sees it differently (in a way I think is wrong), so I guess that point is fine. The rayn thing the way you said things about him was misrepresenting what he was doing to make it look worse, and I thought that it was weird to jump on him for what you did. If not you (which is looking very unlikely), then probably GB? I'm looking at GB/Slam/BH and I'm kind of out of time right now but I can finalize that later. Onegu I got a town feeling when reading through for some reason, ritoky I kind of liked his BH thing, and Hopeless I'm willing to trust the rayn/yamato read for now. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
a bit concerning | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 23 2015 23:35 marvellosity wrote: literally just explained my feelings about Chrome, GB. other than your read on Vivax i can't really think of anything that would make you town. so all that's left is a bad read on vivax. I saw it, but don't you agree that Chromatically is being at least productive and Onegu and Hopeless aren't? Hopeless is disinterested just like he was in Avogadro's mini mafia. But especially Onegu. He is sheeping me. How come you think I might be mafia for a bad read on Vivax but Onegu likely to be town for sheeping me into this very same read? | ||
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Vivax
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43226 Posts
Maybe ritoky is town after all. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On October 23 2015 23:39 GlowingBear wrote: I saw it, but don't you agree that Chromatically is being at least productive and Onegu and Hopeless aren't? Hopeless is disinterested just like he was in Avogadro's mini mafia. But especially Onegu. He is sheeping me. How come you think I might be mafia for a bad read on Vivax but Onegu likely to be town for sheeping me into this very same read? how is Onegu sitting in group 3 out of 4 just above the people i'm suspicious of "likely town"? no. productivity is a weird metric. the least 'productive' people are usually lazy town fuckers. mafia try to be productive so they don't get lynched by people for not being productive. | ||
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Vivax
21733 Posts
also yeah the unsure about marv thingy was yamato i think, mistook his post for gbs | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On October 23 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote: 1. marvellosity 2. Vivax 8. Xatalos 13. yamato77 3. Blazinghand 4. gumshoe 6. Hopeless1der 7. raynpelikoneet 9. Onegu 12. ritoky 5. GlowingBear 10. Chromatically 11. Alakaslam groups are in no particular order (e.g. rayn would be higher) Well, it warms my heart that I'm so high. Nice to be a pussy I guess?  ![[image loading]](http://www.eastcottvets.co.uk/uploads/Animals/gingerkitten.jpg) Anyways, you'd really have to do better than to claim Slam's reaction to a vote / his attack on rayn was weird. I basically got the opposite picture from how he went about it. Can't really disagree about the option of Chromatically. GB... Doesn't really seem like the best lynch today. He's kind of null to me, but rayn's odd behavior towards him (hard defense -> hard attack) doesn't really seem like how he would treat a teammate. More like how scum rayn would treat someone he knew was town. So that basically pushes him out of my comfortable lynch range atm. Is there really nothing else for you to defend rayn with than his initial agreement (not really) with your early reads? Even if his reads were actually quite different back then, unlike you said, and a HUGE AMOUNT of stuff has happened after that? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43226 Posts
##unvote ##vote Alakaslam I wanna tunnel Xatalos so hard after D1. So hard. I am literally seeing red and i really really wanna do this. And i can't unless i lynch mafia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43226 Posts
Then, whichever gets lynched i (or other people) will tunnel Xatalos for the rest of the game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43226 Posts
On October 23 2015 23:43 marvellosity wrote: Xatalos is gonna have like 11-12 pages filter after d1, he's just gonna be town rayn I don't care. Still gonna do it. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
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