Aside from that I'm out of ideas.
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Aside from that I'm out of ideas. | ||
Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
##Shoot Yamato77 | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
Anyway geript that's a straw man argument at best I had both people on my scum list. Saying I would be happier to stay on chez when I never voted him isn't correct. Since obviously I voted for someone I thought was scum. | ||
Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
There a whole bunch of better targets. | ||
Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
It should be obvious who needs to be checked because of D1 shenanies (including, but not limited to, the two people who subbed in [personally highly suspicious of VA/rayn but eh], one of the surviving lynch bandwagons [tubesock et al], damdred). | ||
Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On August 22 2015 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Don't waste a cop check on damdred. There a whole bunch of better targets. Well...hrm. Maybe. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On August 21 2015 23:14 Fidei86 wrote: Doesn't it depend which way Chez flips (if he does)? I mean, if he's town as well, it doesn't really matter which way we went, surely? If Chez is town, then there's a slight possibility of 2 mafia on him, but that would be a very odd case. It would essentially mean there's 5 mafia (which imo is way too many for a 20 person setup) or that there was only 1 mafia on ruxxar and 1 mafia on the random votes. Those two things being true would be really really odd in general. Also, tbh I'm having a hard time believing ritoky's "I must random vote each day" shit. Like his role would have to be pretty goddamn powerful in order to lose the ability to control his own vote. While i don't have a vast opinion for onegu setups, like that shit would be super odd. I think ritoky has a decent shot for being 3p and just making shit up. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On August 21 2015 23:47 Lord Tolkien wrote: Anyone opposed to this? ##Shoot Yamato77 Yes. Damdred and Chezinu are significantly better shots. Chezinu gives us information whether it was town-town or town-mafia wagons (3p essentially being town-town). Yamato is a lower probability shot than a number of others. | ||
Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On August 22 2015 00:37 geript wrote: Yes. Damdred and Chezinu are significantly better shots. Chezinu gives us information whether it was town-town or town-mafia wagons (3p essentially being town-town). Yamato is a lower probability shot than a number of others. Shush you. I do what I want. And I need to fulfill my challenge of shooting yamato. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
All actions must be sent in to both mods before the 1-hour silent resolution period. Failure to meet the deadline will result in no action. Failure to notify both mods may result in no action. Carry on. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Someone roleblock this idiot to save town. | ||
Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On August 22 2015 00:37 geript wrote: Yes. Damdred and Chezinu are significantly better shots. Chezinu gives us information whether it was town-town or town-mafia wagons (3p essentially being town-town). Yamato is a lower probability shot than a number of others. This. I haven't seen anything convincing to say that Chezinu's last-minute spurt of activity was alignment indicative, and before that his filter was trash-tier. I've also no confidence whatsoever that he will actually look to contribute to the game. Also, if he is mafia, then we confirm a bunch of town. From a totally selfish and non-game-winning perspective I'd rather you shoot Kelsier, whose only purpose seems to genuinely hinder town and generally be rude to people. But in terms of shooting lurkers, I think Chez is the better choice. | ||
Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On August 22 2015 00:59 yamato77 wrote: Fuck you if you kill me Tolkien Someone roleblock this idiot to save town. Yams pls. You challenged me. Ergo i must comply. | ||
Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
It essentially boils down to three points: 1. She was the first person to make a substantive argument against the ritoky/Tube/TickTock wagon on me. A couple of other people had made throwaway comments about me, but that was it. And everyone knows (or will know now I'm telling you) that HTS is probably the person in this game I have had the MOST interaction with. Not only do we play DOTA together, but we were town together in Newbie XII and she moderated Himalayas. It would have been VERY easy for her to come up with some sort of weasel argument as to why I was scum in this game. Given her connections with me, I think it would have been very convincing to a lot of people. Yes, she could have been pocketing me, or town reading me for the cred in case the wagon was successful, but I find that less likely than the alternative - that she is town. 2. Having exchanged messages with her and played Dota with her, I'm not sure that she's the kind of person who would claim having serious back pain as a reason for not being around. I also don't see why mafia HTS would mix in the excuses with her genuine attempts at analysis. Why not just be like "oh my back is too sore, I can't play, I'm on Ruxx and I think that's right". That makes more sense to me. 3. At the lynch she was all over the shop. I think she moved her vote perhaps four times? I know she's an advanced mafia player, but that seems like a stretch to me, especially as she ended up on the ruxxar wagon. This reason may well fall apart once we learn the alignments of the other two wagons (other than me). However, the sense of frustration that she was giving (for example, calling out Ruxx for not being around) fits in perfectly with her erratic voting. | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 22 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote: This. I haven't seen anything convincing to say that Chezinu's last-minute spurt of activity was alignment indicative, and before that his filter was trash-tier. I've also no confidence whatsoever that he will actually look to contribute to the game. Also, if he is mafia, then we confirm a bunch of town. From a totally selfish and non-game-winning perspective I'd rather you shoot Kelsier, whose only purpose seems to genuinely hinder town and generally be rude to people. But in terms of shooting lurkers, I think Chez is the better choice. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On August 22 2015 00:51 rsoultin wrote: Mod Note: All actions must be sent in to both mods before the 1-hour silent resolution period. Failure to meet the deadline will result in no action. Failure to notify both mods may result in no action. Carry on. Correction will result in no action if not sent to both hosts. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On August 20 2015 08:20 rsoultin wrote: Day 1 Votecount ruXxar (6): Breshke, Half the Sky, Rels, ObiWanShinobi, WaveofShadow, Lord Tolkien Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tubesock, ritoky (1): geript, Damdred (1): Fecalfeast (1): Damdred yamato77 (1): Fecalfeast Tubesock (1): The Shining Not Voting (8): Fidei86, yamato77, ruXxar, JudgeJudy, VayneAuthority, Tictock, Beneather, KelsierSC Currently, ruxxar is set to be lynched with 6 votes in . Please do not forget to vote. You may vote for yourself, and a vote of "no lynch" is allowed. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/492852-the-new-personality-voting-thread Please vote in the voting thread if you want your vote to be counted. On August 21 2015 06:54 rsoultin wrote: Day 1 Votecount Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, ruXxar (5): Breshke, Tubesock (4): The Shining, Rels, Chezinu, WaveofShadow, Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Damdred (2): ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather Currently, Chezinu is set to be lynched with 5 votes in . Please do not forget to vote. You may vote for yourself, and a vote of "no lynch" is allowed. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/492852-the-new-personality-voting-thread Please vote in the voting thread if you want your vote to be counted. On August 21 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote: FINAL Day 1 Votecount ruXxar (7): Breshke, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77 Tubesock (2): The Shining, WaveofShadow Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tictock ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar WaveofShadow (1): Fecalfeast Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather Ruxxar has been lynched with 7 votes. So a few interesting things from the voting patterns on D1. The initial Ruxxar push was comprised of: Breshke, HtS, Rels, OWS, Wave and LT. When you look at where the votes moved, however, HTS, Rels and Wave ended up moving over to Tubesock before switching back. Whereas LT moved to Chez before moving back. Unfortunately, I dont' think this says anything about LT's alignment. I kinda think Wave is town; if he's not I'm just going to policy lynch him from now on whenever I think he's town. But the series of switches makes me think there's at most 1 mafia between Rels and HTS. The voting together early on, switching together and ending together makes it highly unlikely that both are mafia. So if one of those two flips mafia, the other should be considered confirmed town period. Of those two, I think Rels is pretty obviously mafia for a few reasons. 1. On August 19 2015 18:30 Rels wrote: RNG part is stupid. You RNG formula is not public. The other part is good though. ruxxar asking tons of questions and doing nothing is scummier I think. Would be happy with the both of them. Rels has played with Ruxxar before in a student game. He was able to get a decent townread on him. Part of the reasoning for said town read was Rels was asking "good" questions and lots of them. This post by rels seems exceptionally off of how Rels has previously red ruxxar. 2. New mafia tend to ask more questions to appear active. When you look at Rel's newbie game, he was reasonably active and aggressive. What you see in this game is far more commenting on the game and being an asshole. There's not pressuring anyone. There's not flat out giving reads and posting thoughts. 3. How he's posting is drastically different. Not only is his activity significantly lower ( barely 3 pages as compared to most of 5). His posts in general are significantly shorter. He's not including a quote in almost every post he makes. How he's playing is drastically different. 4. Rayn said so. Rayn's a good player and can recognize scum quite well. Usually when he and I agree on someone, they tend to be mafia. So if there's a vigilante, Rels should the the shot far and away. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I still think HtS and Rels are town though Reasoning on Rels originally was On August 20 2015 20:45 WaveofShadow wrote: Might be wrong but love his thinking. Town pile Tube sock comes off worse looking than fidei imo Genuine on the spot analysis looked really towny here during that argument. I don't agree that Rels should be the shot---it should be someone who is actually not playing/difficult to figure out otherwise. | ||
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