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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:12 GMT
#1301
On August 22 2015 03:09 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Rels, you are mafia for your reactions at EoD. Come on.

Are you convincing me I'm mafia


That was more or less in response to comment 1292. As in, meta is not needed as to say why you are mafia.

(Though if we had to compare irregardless of personality effect, your play here is vastly different to your town games, still I feel there is a stronger argument, whatever.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:12 GMT
#1302
On August 22 2015 03:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Rels, you are mafia for your reactions at EoD. Come on.

EoD reactions don't mean nearly as much as you think.
I've been called scum as town multiple times for not reacting the way people 'expect' after a lynch.
Not buying it.


I am talking about his reactions prior to the lynch, not after.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 21 2015 18:13 GMT
#1303
On August 22 2015 03:10 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 02:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
I do support you being so afraid of me you have to policy lynch me though lol

I still think HtS and Rels are town though
Reasoning on Rels originally was
On August 20 2015 20:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2015 17:39 Rels wrote:
fidei + tubesock scumteam
only meaningful posts from tubesock comes from discussion with fidei
tubesocks does nothing except naming some townreads and defending from fidei, goes to sleep
then fidei townreads him

Might be wrong but love his thinking.
Town pile
Tube sock comes off worse looking than fidei imo

Genuine on the spot analysis looked really towny here during that argument.

I don't agree that Rels should be the shot---it should be someone who is actually not playing/difficult to figure out otherwise.


If Rels/Yamato are getting shot then DT check (assuming it's not a parity we have) Kelsier/Chez, even Tubesock.

This I agree with, but ultimately whoever is vig/cop do what you feel is right.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 21 2015 18:13 GMT
#1304
anywho, i need a break.

Also, wave is right. End of phase/post flip reactions are really terrible reasons to read anyone as anything. What they do post flip can be alignement indicative but now "how they react".
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:14 GMT
#1305
Kelsier/Yamato/Bill Murray, you three need to actually explain why geript is mafia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 18:14 GMT
#1306
Hts
I switched because I townread you and I followed you
And because of the soft blue claim
In retrospect he was roleplaying ls fakeclaiming
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 21 2015 18:20 GMT
#1307
On August 22 2015 03:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Kelsier/Yamato/Bill Murray, you three need to actually explain why geript is mafia.


rayn said so
Zerg for Life
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:21 GMT
#1308
On August 22 2015 03:14 Rels wrote:
Hts
I switched because I townread you and I followed you
And because of the soft blue claim
In retrospect he was roleplaying ls fakeclaiming


First off, the bolded does not automatically make you town. I know several instances of where mafia sheeped me on a case that I have made on townies playing poorly (examples: mafia Palmar/Damdred in Titanic 7 when I cased Fecalfeast/rayn, mafia marvellosity in Assassination when I cased Vivax).

And roleplaying LS fakeclaiming isn't a great reason either. LS will claim at the slightest pressure. ruXxar was the leading wagon at that point (I believe) by a country mile. A soft blue claim from a veteran's purpose is to draw KP, and had he not fucked off I would not have re-voted him.

So that argument is invalid as well.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:21 GMT
#1309
On August 22 2015 03:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 03:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Kelsier/Yamato/Bill Murray, you three need to actually explain why geript is mafia.


rayn said so


Inadequate. Try again.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 21 2015 18:22 GMT
#1310
On August 22 2015 03:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 03:20 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2015 03:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Kelsier/Yamato/Bill Murray, you three need to actually explain why geript is mafia.


rayn said so


Inadequate. Try again.


....no?
Zerg for Life
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 21 2015 18:23 GMT
#1311
For the record I think I've brought this up already but this is how KSC played last time we were scum together.
Would support a KSC shot.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:25 GMT
#1312
Damdred's voting of ruXxar IS consistent with the first wave of reads he provided. I remember demanding reads and though he did it in character speak I was able to interpret that ruxxar was one of his top scum reads.

On August 21 2015 02:02 Damdred wrote:
Greetings to all and may your soul be merry oj this joyous day.

The bank has opened its doors so you may have a look at the books. Because the bank has kept a list and it is now on public display.

Damdreds great friends ows and geript have received a total of 10 cheznoes this erases geripts loan payment and has kept him out of debt! Aren't friends great both of these guys are receiving alignment presents hopefully my umbrella is big enough to protect all three.

HTS and Shining have both received 5 cheznoes they are able to multiply there earnings soon. But no presents tonight I'm afraid.

Sadly there are some people who haven't invested in the bank nor want anything to do with them.

Ruxxar is just so mean and not fun what use would he have for a bank in his dastardly plans.

Chez the most fun has sank into the heart of despair and darkness and eyes are made of fire


FF is just so sad and lonely maybe the damdred rule misfired? Doubt seeps in what is a damdred to do he might investbine day further notes must be taken.

For now that's all you get the bank will open again soon be patient and say those deposits


Now the REAL question is why Damdred voted ruXxar over Chez, both were very close. If Chez flips mafia, this would greatly support an argument for Damdred being mafia or anti-town third party if he is third party.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 21 2015 18:25 GMT
#1313
On August 22 2015 03:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
For the record I think I've brought this up already but this is how KSC played last time we were scum together.
Would support a KSC shot.


lol no

Zerg for Life
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 21 2015 18:27 GMT
#1314
On August 22 2015 03:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Damdred's voting of ruXxar IS consistent with the first wave of reads he provided. I remember demanding reads and though he did it in character speak I was able to interpret that ruxxar was one of his top scum reads.

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 02:02 Damdred wrote:
Greetings to all and may your soul be merry oj this joyous day.

The bank has opened its doors so you may have a look at the books. Because the bank has kept a list and it is now on public display.

Damdreds great friends ows and geript have received a total of 10 cheznoes this erases geripts loan payment and has kept him out of debt! Aren't friends great both of these guys are receiving alignment presents hopefully my umbrella is big enough to protect all three.

HTS and Shining have both received 5 cheznoes they are able to multiply there earnings soon. But no presents tonight I'm afraid.

Sadly there are some people who haven't invested in the bank nor want anything to do with them.

Ruxxar is just so mean and not fun what use would he have for a bank in his dastardly plans.

Chez the most fun has sank into the heart of despair and darkness and eyes are made of fire


FF is just so sad and lonely maybe the damdred rule misfired? Doubt seeps in what is a damdred to do he might investbine day further notes must be taken.

For now that's all you get the bank will open again soon be patient and say those deposits


Now the REAL question is why Damdred voted ruXxar over Chez, both were very close. If Chez flips mafia, this would greatly support an argument for Damdred being mafia or anti-town third party if he is third party.

Something I've learned is that consistency seems to be more of a mafia trait than a town one because scum is more concerned with making sure their reads constantly line up, and they don't change their minds very often. When you can see a solid thought process along with that consistency then fine, but I'd be wary of using that consistency alone as a read one way or another.

I like geript's thoughts on what Damdred should be thinking in regards to reads though and he has consistently proven he is able to read damdred very well. I don't inherently trust the 3P claim.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:28 GMT
#1315
He says he didn't want to vote Chez "suddenly" but he did just that for ruXxar.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 18:29 GMT
#1316
On August 22 2015 03:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 03:14 Rels wrote:
Hts
I switched because I townread you and I followed you
And because of the soft blue claim
In retrospect he was roleplaying ls fakeclaiming


First off, the bolded does not automatically make you town. I know several instances of where mafia sheeped me on a case that I have made on townies playing poorly (examples: mafia Palmar/Damdred in Titanic 7 when I cased Fecalfeast/rayn, mafia marvellosity in Assassination when I cased Vivax).

And roleplaying LS fakeclaiming isn't a great reason either. LS will claim at the slightest pressure. ruXxar was the leading wagon at that point (I believe) by a country mile. A soft blue claim from a veteran's purpose is to draw KP, and had he not fucked off I would not have re-voted him.

So that argument is invalid as well.

??

I was just stating my state of mind. Didnt ask you to reconsider
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:30 GMT
#1317
WoS, I hear you, I am trying to think things through. He says he didn't want to vote Chez suddenly but did just that for ruXxar, there's no explicit saying "oh Chez is likely town for subsequent comments" etc etc or anything, and yeh I know from Gaiden geript knows his thing on Damdred, and I'm 99% sure geript is town, so I definitely trust him there.

A Chez flip to me will indicate where Damdred really stands, that is how I see it now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:31 GMT
#1318
Rels, I never reconsidered. I found your behaviour sketchy from the off.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 21 2015 18:32 GMT
#1319
Good to know
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 21 2015 18:33 GMT
#1320
I want to change the subject a little because I'm around right now and want to hash out some thoughts with people.
Breshke has been RPing (to great effect I must add, well done) but what are people's thoughts on him? I think every time I've played with him I've been scum so it's easy for me tos ay he's seemed obvious town every time, but now from an outside perspective, especially with the RP it's a little more difficult.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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