EPTI just see Flash doing a strong offensive, then didnt work, then army supply so much difference...
Why didnt it work? Is it because Flash play poorly? Make wrong decision? He need to kill the hatchery to make it worth?
What did he do wrong?
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
I just see Flash doing a strong offensive, then didnt work, then army supply so much difference... Why didnt it work? Is it because Flash play poorly? Make wrong decision? He need to kill the hatchery to make it worth? What did he do wrong? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36903 Posts
On August 05 2015 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote: What happened to your custom icon? Imo the snitch was way cooler  BOW DOWN BEFORE THE CINDERELLA GLASS SLIPPER YOU PEASANT! On August 05 2015 02:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: I just watch the Flash game VOD in Korean . I just see Flash doing a strong offensive, then didnt work, then army supply so much difference... Why didnt it work? Is it because Flash play poorly? Make wrong decision? He need to kill the hatchery to make it worth? What did he do wrong? Flash's opening strat would only work out if he dealt enough dmg to get ahead of DRG. He did not do this. He did not kill the hatch, he did not cripple DRG's economy, he did not trade efficiently, he did not get ahead in any way. The only way to prevent DRG from moving out with mutas and destroying Flash is if Flash is able to deal enough dmg to DRG to the point where DRG is forced to play defensive. DRG didn't feel any need to play defensive because Flash failed his attack so badly. And then once the mutas entered Flash's base, DRG saw that Flash had 0 defense preparations ready. It was pretty much GG from there. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Icon too tiny imho, need bigger ones! | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 05 2015 03:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: Huh i would never have guessed it is "THE CINDERELLA GLASS SLIPPER" Icon too tiny imho, need bigger ones! If Seeker has balls he will actually switch his icon to a cinderella glass slipper once they get fixed And yeah we need bigger icons as well as bigger team flairs (well simply having flairs to begin with would be nice) | ||
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
Shape up, you guys. Really. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I am not sure we deserve it at this point though :/ | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 05 2015 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well we can be happy that it will be hard to not get into the season playoffs. I am not sure we deserve it at this point though :/ If KT keeps on sucking and SBENU has a good run I can see KT not making it to the playoffs tbh | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On August 05 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote: If KT keeps on sucking and SBENU has a good run I can see KT not making it to the playoffs tbh SBENU would need a very good run though, and KT would need a very bad round. I doubt this will happen^^ | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On August 04 2015 21:53 BisuDagger wrote: Let's be honest. Life has never really been that good anyway. When it comes to team leagues you're not wrong in a way. He's been a pretty average team league player his whole career. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 05 2015 05:17 The_Red_Viper wrote: SBENU would need a very good run though, and KT would need a very bad round. I doubt this will happen^^ Yeah it's still a far-fetched scenario, since there's a 31 points difference, so basically it would mean either SBENU first (highly unlikely) and KT 5th to 8th (highly likely), or SBENU second (possible) and KT 6th to 8th (possible), or SBENU third (likely) and KT 8th (highly unlikely). edit : wait that's only the points for the regular round, I forgot the bonus points for first and second playoffs places. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I also doubt that KT will place last. If we assume that i am correct SBENU would need to win the playoffs which is also very unlikely, which is why i don't doubt that KT will be in the season playoffs. I am scared that we will do badly there though, well still some time to improve! :D | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On August 05 2015 05:49 The_Red_Viper wrote: I very much doubt SBENU will place third or higher. I also doubt that KT will place last. If we assume that i am correct SBENU would need to win the playoffs which is also very unlikely, which is why i don't doubt that KT will be in the season playoffs. I am scared that we will do badly there though, well still some time to improve! :D We don't need more time, it's not like the team just came back from a vacation. We need salary cuts and dishwashing. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On August 05 2015 06:14 Silvana wrote: We don't need more time, it's not like the team just came back from a vacation. We need salary cuts and dishwashing. I approve of the dishwashing. You lost your game? Well 2 weeks for you. Oh you already lost last week? Well 2 months then. 3 game loosing streak? Off you go to Kespa jail. But in all seriousness, coaches should so something. KT's rooster is top 4 minimum and they play like shit | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On August 05 2015 06:46 BlackCompany wrote: I approve of the dishwashing. You lost your game? Well 2 weeks for you. Oh you already lost last week? Well 2 months then. 3 game loosing streak? Off you go to Kespa jail. But in all seriousness, coaches should so something. KT's rooster is top 4 minimum and they play like shit ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/q037Kht.png?1) yep top 4 definitely | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
Lmao, good one. I should at least try to read my post again before submitting To be fair, it's about midnight here and i'm watchind TI5 so it's hard to focus^^ | ||
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jpg06051992
United States580 Posts
On August 05 2015 02:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: I just watch the Flash game VOD in Korean . I just see Flash doing a strong offensive, then didnt work, then army supply so much difference... Why didnt it work? Is it because Flash play poorly? Make wrong decision? He need to kill the hatchery to make it worth? What did he do wrong? That's exactly what he needed to do, instead of sacking his units to kill the third, he killed more Zerglings and still lost most of his stuff. I believe Flash killed barely a handful of drones Flash could have sacked the hellbat and banshee damage on the hatch and easily escaped with the only units that mattered (the banshees) which along with the lack of 6 gas resulting in delayed Mutalisks not only would have allowed Flash to further pressure with the Banshees, but he would have gotten his third established. That said, I routinely see Flash skip building missile turrets in a timely manner which is odd considering 2 base Muta is very popular in the KR scene. Flash should have stuck to his guns and tried to out macro DRG and beat him with strong mid game engagements, it's really his macro mechanics and multitask that allows him to win most games I see, not his execution of clever offense plays. I wouldn't say Flash got "outplayed" too hard there, that was just a wonky execution against a good Zerg. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:48 jpg06051992 wrote: That's exactly what he needed to do, instead of sacking his units to kill the third, he killed more Zerglings and still lost most of his stuff. I believe Flash killed barely a handful of drones Flash could have sacked the hellbat and banshee damage on the hatch and easily escaped with the only units that mattered (the banshees) which along with the lack of 6 gas resulting in delayed Mutalisks not only would have allowed Flash to further pressure with the Banshees, but he would have gotten his third established. That said, I routinely see Flash skip building missile turrets in a timely manner which is odd considering 2 base Muta is very popular in the KR scene. Flash should have stuck to his guns and tried to out macro DRG and beat him with strong mid game engagements, it's really his macro mechanics and multitask that allows him to win most games I see, not his execution of clever offense plays. I wouldn't say Flash got "outplayed" too hard there, that was just a wonky execution against a good Zerg. There is 1 moment where he attack with hellbat medivac but there is 4 idle hellion. Is he going to do double attack and because of mismicro, didnt happen . . Or is it on purpose he park hellion there? | ||
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Deleted User 261926
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On August 05 2015 02:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: I just watch the Flash game VOD in Korean . I just see Flash doing a strong offensive, then didnt work, then army supply so much difference... Why didnt it work? Is it because Flash play poorly? Make wrong decision? He need to kill the hatchery to make it worth? What did he do wrong? That was a borderline all-in push. It needed to do heavy damage in order to get ahead, either a hatchery of many drones. DRG spotted the medivac (I believe he spotted it because flash made it fly through the third hatchery but I'd have to watch again to be certain) and had all queens in positions so he deflected it easily. He also prepared a baneling nest and banelings+queens is basicly how you hold banshee hellbat. Flash's execution wasn't really crisp (he had a window to run in the natural with hellions when his hellbats were keeping lings and queens occupied. Only later DRG split his lings from his queens and prevented that.) but it mostly comes down to scout and response from DRG. He also hoped for thors to be up in time for mutalisks but they came like 20s later and like 20 SCVs were killed by mutas as well as a gas in the natural. Too low economy to handle the roach switch resulted into a loss. | ||
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