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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 19 2015 04:09 boxerfred wrote: so fun how rsoultin engages ruxxar now the same way she did with hf last day. hf was town. This does not mean anything, dude.. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 19 2015 04:09 boxerfred wrote: so fun how rsoultin engages ruxxar now the same way she did with hf last day. hf was town. isn't it gonna be fun when i flip town and you look the fool ^^ please lynch this guy. he's done literally nothing useful for days. nothing. at. all | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 19 2015 04:10 rsoultin wrote: isn't it gonna be fun when i flip town and you look the fool ^^ please lynch this guy. he's done literally nothing useful for days. nothing. at. all This makes him scum? He's being told by a lot of people that he's making dumb arguments, yet he just keeps doing it. Hmph. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Just because it seems too stupid for scum to constantly defend Holyflare the entire game. It doesn't make him town, but it's not a good reason to scumread him. And the other reasons alone weren't quite convincing enough. ##unvote | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 19 2015 04:14 Clarity_nl wrote: This makes him scum? He's being told by a lot of people that he's making dumb arguments, yet he just keeps doing it. Hmph. doing nothing useful for days? yeah? like...how does it make him town? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 19 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote: doing nothing useful for days? yeah? like...how does it make him town? Not saying it does. Although the persistence feels townie. If you tell scum to shut up enough you'd think they would. It's not the greatest argument I admit. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 19 2015 04:24 Clarity_nl wrote: Not saying it does. Although the persistence feels townie. If you tell scum to shut up enough you'd think they would. It's not the greatest argument I admit. lol definitely depends on the scum i know a lot who wouldn't, myself included xP | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Rsoultin I feel you treat me different, you're very aggressive with others yet you timidly answer my questions, do you just have a super town read on me or what? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 19 2015 04:59 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah but I imagine you are able to make sense. Rsoultin I feel you treat me different, you're very aggressive with others yet you timidly answer my questions, do you just have a super town read on me or what? weird question lol >< i'm aggressive with stupid/scumreads when you're stupid i'll let you know xP | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On July 19 2015 04:03 rsoultin wrote: 1. these two had me doubting his alignment and thinking he could be town so obviously. you're ignoring his initial push where you first crawled up his butt though ^^ which wasn't meta. it was simply. you're not posting a few hours into d1. therefore you must be scum who rolled scum twice. that wasn't meta. frankly, that was 100% retarded of hf to think that regardless of trfel's alignment it would be effective pressure to just call him scum and say he'd never reevaluate...as town that's likely to just make people not even want to bother -_- and was a huge part of why i read hf scum 2. nope. explain. exactly. what. was. scummy. about. it. just saying it was scummy doesn't make it scummy and this feels like you're dodging my question because you have no good answer for it 3. >< you were in himalayas! you KNOW that i defended him from HF d1 off a TONEREAD which is what you are SCUMREADING ME FOR THIS GAME 4. nonononono if you think someone's town you try to NOT lynch them. this is bs. you say you didn't doubt. if you didn't doubt you didn't doubt. you don't get to have it both ways >< 5. okay. who is scum? you're wrong on me so if you're town, and you actually lynch me, when i flip town who is scum? you cannot literally only have one scumread at this stage in the game 1) It's not about his activity but about the content he actually posted. On July 06 2015 15:11 Trfel wrote: Any thoughts on private versus public education systems? On July 06 2015 15:18 Trfel wrote: Talk about something other than mafia.... How are those Spanish classes going? Tell me how these comments are relevant at all? HF thought it was mafiarollingtitis, I thought Trfel was playing strange. I think it's fine to pressure people early for less than obviously scummy reasons since you have very little substance to go off. The point is not so much what you are accusing them off as it is to judge their reactions. 2) It was scummy because you were disrupting the questioning of trfel. If you're pressuring someone and I come in an derail you, would you think I'm towny? 3) I'm not scum-reading you for town-reading anyone. I'm scum reading you for disrupting the push on trfel serveral times. 4) I disagree, i think a no-lynch is only a good option if it outs other mafia. Not that I'm very familiar with majority lynching, but this is my current opinion. 5) Like I said, I'm re-evaluating. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On July 19 2015 02:14 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: i dont know what to think, I stopped putting in serious effort so i wouldnt pay attention to my thoughts anyway because im barely reading this game. Reading vivax filter ruxxar is probably mafia. Please elaborate. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
it's a numbers game and i'm not going to teach you how to play ^^ that's for student mafia i'm done with you. you're scum | ||
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XEliteBlueHunter69X
155 Posts
nothing to elaborate on, you can read vivax's filter for yourself. He died after starting to scumread you and I don't see any reason why he would die over some one like HTS who has a miller claim and is only read scum by boxerfred. so there has to be some sort of merit to his reads. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 19 2015 08:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: nothing to elaborate on, you can read vivax's filter for yourself. He died after starting to scumread you and I don't see any reason why he would die over some one like HTS who has a miller claim and is only read scum by boxerfred. so there has to be some sort of merit to his reads. Not a single person was scumreading vivax and LS was confirmed town. You can't wifom the night kills to call ruxxar mafia. You can call ruxxar mafia for other things, though. | ||
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XEliteBlueHunter69X
155 Posts
On July 19 2015 08:18 Clarity_nl wrote: Not a single person was scumreading vivax and LS was confirmed town. You can't wifom the night kills to call ruxxar mafia. You can call ruxxar mafia for other things, though. well I dont think he is mafia so not sure why I would do that. Just saying I could see how I could be wrong. but if rsoultin is on the wagon zero chance i ever vote ruxxar | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 19 2015 08:21 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well I dont think he is mafia so not sure why I would do that. Just saying I could see how I could be wrong. but if rsoultin is on the wagon zero chance i ever vote ruxxar Ruxxar is probably mafia, but rsoultin is voting ruxxar so you're not voting ruxxar, does that about sum it up? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On July 18 2015 06:53 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided. I laughed my ass of at this btw. My new sig. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
RuXxar explained later on that this was because he considered me and HF could be masons. Looking back at this, it makes a lot of sense. In fact just so we have it in one place let me put together the known night actions: n1: - scum KP on Palmar <- kind of a standard scum shot - scum KP on Harkon <- apparently he soft claimed some kinda blue role to draw a shot - Damdred RB on ritoky <- cop claim - KelsierSC RB on milo <- cop claim - LS gives HtS a gun - geript tracks damdred to ritoky <- damdred did not deliver KP n2: - scum KP on ritoky <- shot the confirmed cop - scum KP on geript <- shot the confirmed tracker - HtS shoots MZ with gun - KelsierSC RB on milo - LS gives marv a gun n3: - scum KP on harkon <- confirmed vet - scum KP on marv <- good townie - marv shoots scott with gun n4: - scum KP on vivax <- was clearly townie - scum KP on LS <- confirmed gunsmith - Breshke JKs OWS + Show Spoiler [unimportant] + Man we really got fucked by outting 2 cops d1 and scum having 2 roleblockers So looking back I guess I don't understand why scum!ruxxar, "figuring out" that we're masons would not shoot HF over Palmar n1. Palmar wasn't doing much and his votes that day were on town, whereas HF being a mason with someone is probably quite dangerous. So... RuXxar isn't scum? Uh... Yeah I'm pretty confident in that now. ##Unvote Going back to the votes.. I believe breshke's JK claim, it makes a lot of sense. I also believe that if OWS were scum he would very likely be carrying KP, so I'm willing to treat both of them as confirmed town. I still think HtS is likely town but I'll have to read more deeply first so I'll put her at null. I'm also putting EBH back at null, rather than town. I'm also putting bf back at null because of his terrible arguments for the last 3-5 days or so. That leaves us with: Holyflare (8): LightningStrike, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, Trfel, Oatsmaster, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, Half the Sky Breshke (2): Vivax, XEliteBlueHunter69X rsoultin (2): ruXxar, boxerfred ObiWanShinobi (1): Holyflare ruXxar (1): Breshke Earlier I've townread rsoultin for hinting at Trfel's irl issues, which I find hard to believe if rsoultin is scum and trfel is town. I also found it hard to believe if they're both scum, but perhaps I should ignore that and look more closely. I think if rsoultin is scum that makes trfel scum as well. This is because I believe as scum rsoultin would feel bad about using info she has irl to make her fake reads ingame. However if they are both scum she would not feel this way. As town you can't really help it, and she did what appears to be her best to So with my current townreads possible scumteams are: - rsoultin, trfel, EBH - rsoultin, trfel, bf - Trfel, EBH, bf I'm going to have to seriously consider the possibility of rsoultin being scum. If I am wrong about any of my townreads I think it'll be HtS, I'll look there next. Anyway that's my work for tonight, more tomorrow. ##Vote trfel | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Tomorrow morning (us time) I will get my rear to a cafe and re-evaluate. I have been spending most of my time with family so to spend hard time on this game has been impossible. I've skimmed and I am still wavering on Ras, partially on how in her scum games she's "pretended" to be invested (reference Carnaval/nsm7) and between the cases and what I see here I feel this might be town on town. If she's scum she's putting a shittonne more time than normal. I am with Obi that we might have a lurker scum team so if I honestly read through and read all cases and feel we are all tearing each other apart we might want to vote out a lurker. I realise there's competing cases on Clarity and I fear he might be playing extremely well as scum. I have also taken note of how he was scum reading Breshke, I felt the progression in Breshke filter was logical and his filter lacked the aggression where he pounces on people when he's scum since he has that perfect information. Then again its also not out of the realm of possibilities since Clarity hasn't played in ages I don't remember seeing him around since I started Nov 2014 so that point alone might be unfamiliarity. If Oats is scum we are in serious trouble. He lurked like shit in both games where I have run into him as scum. If he's scum he's broken meta. | ||
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